Help w/ €400 build.

c28omzk7ihsxv0 · 08-10-2012 07:10PM

Aye but 1080p is a must for me, would coupling the Processor with a decent GPU such as the one listed not enable me to play BF3 at 1080p with high-ultra settings?
E.g. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTfV2UuftTc
Or is that just because of the i5 he has in there with the GPU?

c28omzk7ihsxv0 · 08-10-2012 07:29PM

Monotype · 08-10-2012 07:40PM

If BF3 at 1920x1080 is a must, then forget about Trinity. You'd be better off with a more powerful graphics card.

Item|Price
8GB-Kit G-Skill RipJaws PC3-12800U CL9|€33.59
WD Caviar Blue 1TB 6Gb's|€71.04
LiteOn iHAS122-18 schwarz SATA|€17.55
MS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit SB-Version Englisch|€88.90
Super-Flower Amazon 80Plus 450W|€43.18
BitFenix Merc Beta|€32.07
AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Box, Sockel AM3|€86.26
HIS HD 7850 GDDR5 1024MB DVI/HDMI/2xMini DP|€167.54
ASRock 970 Extreme3, AM3+, ATX|€72.44
Shipping|€18.99
Total|€631.56

That's trying to keep the budget low. You could scrap a few more euro by getting the German Windows and using it with an English disc.

c28omzk7ihsxv0 · 08-10-2012 08:04PM

I don't need windows any more, (Have a disc) so That doesn't need to be included in the budget, however everyhting else in my list does.

U_Fig · 08-10-2012 08:38PM

I just specd out a build but it ended up exactly like monotype's one so there's no point posting it, go for that it'd be your best option

c28omzk7ihsxv0 · 08-10-2012 09:37PM

Thanks a lot for the help guys. I've settled on what i'll get pretty much now, but because my purchase can wait a little while longer I might wait and see what the reviews for the piledriver are.

Monotype · 08-10-2012 09:42PM

I doubt we'll see anything very amazing from AMD with piledriver. Probably much the same as Trinity without the integrated graphics and with more cores. However, what price they'll sell is what will be much more interesting.

Eboggles · 08-10-2012 09:50PM

Monotype wrote: »

I doubt we'll see anything very amazing from AMD with piledriver. Probably much the same as Trinity without the integrated graphics and with more cores. However, what price they'll sell is what will be much more interesting.

I heard launch prices are the same as Bulldozer when that was released. I hope not, I sincerely doubt the 8350 (8150 successor) is going to be near the 3570k in gaming.

Hopefully the 4310 is a good overclocker, we might be able to recommend it instead of the aging 965. That thing came out 3 years ago?

Monotype · 08-10-2012 10:12PM

Ugh! One of the reasons Bulldozer was so unattractive was the price. Why would you buy it when you can have a 2500K which can be overclocked till the cows come home? Against a 2500, sure it seemed half decent when you don't have to compete with overclocking and the extra cores can be occasionally useful for something. It's only now with the 8120 that's competing against the i3s and low i5s that it makes it a formidable opponent.

c28omzk7ihsxv0 · 08-10-2012 10:55PM

I was looking at this card but the configurator won't let me choose it, is there compatability issues?
http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=50918&agid=1004
Thanks/.

Monotype · 09-10-2012 03:43PM

The 7850 is a fair oul' bit weaker than the 7850.

It's not a bad card by any means, but other cards have shifted downwards while that's stayed the same price because it's last generation.

Don't bother with the configurator if you want them to build it, just add this to your card.
http://www2.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=746&agid=829

It would be a good idea to post up your final cart before you buy just to sure that all is well. Don't buy a keyboard from there.

Edit: Ah, keyboard has been mentioned in post #2.

c28omzk7ihsxv0 · 25-11-2012 02:00AM

It's been a while but I've FINALLY got my money together hehe..
Here's my final build, posting it as requested before. My only concern would be that the power supply is not big enough....

Would this be a better option?
http://lb.hardwareversand.de/600+-+700+Watts/31273/Super-Flower+SF650P14P+650W.article?pcconfAddUri=/pcconfigurator.jsp%3FpcConfigurator.pwradaptor.pwradaptor.0%3D31273%3A3005&pcconfBackUri=/pcconfselect.jsp?search.sKey=&pcConfigurator.catid=44&pcConfigurator.maid=0&rp=1

Item|Price
8GB-Kit G-Skill RipJaws PC3-12800U CL9|€
LogiLink USB 2.0 all-in-one Card Reader, für 3,5" Einbauchschacht|€
ASUS VS229H|€
Super-Flower Amazon 80Plus 450W|€
ASUS DRW-24B5ST bare|€
AMD FX-4300 Prozessor, Boxed, Sockel AM3+|€
Rechner - Zusammenbau|€
WD Caviar Blue 1TB 6Gb's|€
IN WIN Griffin Midi Tower black/black, ohne Netzteil|€
ASUS PCE-N10|€
ASRock 970 Extreme3, AM3+, ATX|€
HIS HD 7850 GDDR5 1024MB DVI/HDMI/2xMini DP|€
Shipping|€18.99
Total|€717.05

areyawell · 25-11-2012 03:09AM

If spending that price on one you should be getting an i5 with a much better graphics card. Heres one from another thread
BitFenix Shinobi Midi-Tower USB 3.0 black, ohne Netzteil €53.03
8GB-Kit G.Skill PC3-10667U CL9 €28.37
Seagate Barracuda 7200 1000GB, SATA 6Gb/s €67.31
Sapphire Radeon HD 7850, 2GB GDDR5, lite retail €183.29
Intel Core i5-3570K Box, LGA1155 €209.08
Super-Flower Amazon 80Plus 550W €54.03
ASRock Z77 Pro4, Sockel 1155, ATX €99.74
Shipping €18.99

If you want to do a cheaper build like the 400 quid you orignally wanted heres my PC im purchasing.

BitFenix Merc Alpha €34.00
Super-Flower Amazon 80Plus 450W €42.28
ASUS M5A78L LE, Sockel AM3+, ATX €50.15
AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Box, Sockel AM3 €85.87
8GB-Kit G.Skill PC3-10667U CL9 €28.33
WD Caviar Blue 500GB SATA 3 6Gb/s €53.54
HIS HD 7770 GDDR5 1024MB DVI HDMI 2xMiniDP €107.74
Samsung SH-118AB DVD-RW €13.33
Shipping €18.99
Total €433.80

c28omzk7ihsxv0 · 25-11-2012 03:17AM

areyawell wrote: »

If spending that price on one you should be getting an i5 with a much better graphics card. Heres one from another thread
BitFenix Shinobi Midi-Tower USB 3.0 black, ohne Netzteil €53.03
8GB-Kit G.Skill PC3-10667U CL9 €28.37
Seagate Barracuda 7200 1000GB, SATA 6Gb/s €67.31
Sapphire Radeon HD 7850, 2GB GDDR5, lite retail €183.29
Intel Core i5-3570K Box, LGA1155 €209.08
Super-Flower Amazon 80Plus 550W €54.03
ASRock Z77 Pro4, Sockel 1155, ATX €99.74
Shipping €18.99

If you want to do a cheaper build like the 400 quid you orignally wanted heres my PC im purchasing.

BitFenix Merc Alpha €34.00
Super-Flower Amazon 80Plus 450W €42.28
ASUS M5A78L LE, Sockel AM3+, ATX €50.15
AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Box, Sockel AM3 €85.87
8GB-Kit G.Skill PC3-10667U CL9 €28.33
WD Caviar Blue 500GB SATA 3 6Gb/s €53.54
HIS HD 7770 GDDR5 1024MB DVI HDMI 2xMiniDP €107.74
Samsung SH-118AB DVD-RW €13.33
Shipping €18.99
Total €433.80

Well my budget is including the monitor too...
Also the other things (lan card) etc. HAVE to fit into the price...
I'm happy with everything I have I'm just asking about the psu.
Thank you for your input though.

areyawell · 25-11-2012 03:19AM

yea sorry just realized u have a good graphics card in the build

Monotype · 25-11-2012 12:51PM

That's a crap PSU. You're better off with the 450W amazon.

What about homeplugs instead of wireless?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/TP-Link-TL-PA211KIT-200Mbps-Powerline-Ethernet/dp/B004INVKP4/

They're much better for a consistent connection, which is favourable for gaming.

I'm not so fond of that CPU for the money. I mean, look the FX-6300 is €7.55 more. I would either go up to a 6300 or even 8320 or instead, go down to something like a phenom 945, overclock it as far as possible (3.8GHz should be possible) and upgrade in about a year. This would give more money for homeplugs etc.

c28omzk7ihsxv0 · 25-11-2012 08:22PM

Monotype wrote: »

That's a crap PSU. You're better off with the 450W amazon.

What about homeplugs instead of wireless?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/TP-Link-TL-PA211KIT-200Mbps-Powerline-Ethernet/dp/B004INVKP4/

They're much better for a consistent connection, which is favourable for gaming.

I'm not so fond of that CPU for the money. I mean, look the FX-6300 is €7.55 more. I would either go up to a 6300 or even 8320 or instead, go down to something like a phenom 945, overclock it as far as possible (3.8GHz should be possible) and upgrade in about a year. This would give more money for homeplugs etc.

I'll look into the Ethernet plugs and the 6300! Thanks for the advice

c28omzk7ihsxv0 · 11-12-2012 03:51PM

Ok, so I got the Pc today, I have everything in which I said I would, including the 450W PSU and the 6300, but the only problem is she is BSOD'ing every time I try to install windows.
It'll say 'opening files' and get to the 'starting windows screen' but then it Bsods with multiple errors.
I have a Legit copy of windows I got for free because I'm in Engineers Ireland

I downloaded it and burned it to a cd using the application microsoft provide.

I've tried loading defaults on the BIOS etc. but I just can;t get it to work

Any help would be appriciated.

Monotype · 11-12-2012 04:44PM

Try different cables for your hard drive.
Make sure the RAM is properly in (could be a bad stick too).
Try downloading another Windows copy and don't forget to hashcheck it (see guide in signature).

areyawell · 11-12-2012 04:59PM

I think its a ram error. Remove the Ram and stick it back in the PC and retry.

If you have two sticks of ram remove one and retry. If still blue screening put in the one you took out and remove the other one.

Did you burn the windows cd on low burning speed? usually when you burn it on fast settings it always give errors.

Try downloading Ubuntu or backtrack and see if that will install.

Really sounds like a bad stick of ram

c28omzk7ihsxv0 · 11-12-2012 05:07PM

Well, I'd prefer not to void my warrenty my poking at any parts of the PC, i didn't build it, they did...

I did a hash check and it said 1 file hashed, I'm out of DVD's though... and I can;t find my USB stick lol.
I'll try writing it at a low speed and hashchecking it.

tuxy · 11-12-2012 05:09PM

You could also run Memtest86+ to check the ram
If that fails then there is a hardware fault for sure.
You would need a cd or usb boot though.

areyawell · 11-12-2012 05:10PM

Opening your PC will not void the warranty from hardware versand. There 3 year gauruntee is on parts not the PC itself

c28omzk7ihsxv0 · 11-12-2012 05:30PM

I opened up the case and took out the ram and put it back in again, it's definitely in right ( I have one stick) but it's still not working. I'm going to put the hashchecked version of windows onto a usb and see if that works.

c28omzk7ihsxv0 · 18-12-2012 09:39PM

Aye, I did the check sums etc. again and it still doesn't work.
It won;t let me download it again, so I am installing a copy of windows I 'sourced' from somewhere else now and it seems to be installing fine. We'll wait and see...

Help w/ €400 build.

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