Mayo GAA Discussion Thread

keane2097 · 26-09-2012 03:51PM

Syferus wrote: »

It's questionable if Doinegal will have what it takes to repeat but it's far too early to make a judgement either way.

Yeah I just glossed over the part of that post where he says they won't be real contenders, they obviously will but are certainly underpriced at 4/1.

Fr Tod Umptious · 26-09-2012 05:16PM

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

Mayo are the best team in Connacht but they are not good enough that they can just discount the opposition in the province entirely. Mayo barely got past Sligo in the Connacht final. Roscommon had a horrendous championship but are a much better side than they showed this Summer and will have a new coach next year. And of course Galway are unlikely to remain in the doldrums permanently with a lot of young players coming through.

Well I would not totally discount the opposition but unless Galway have a Mayo\Donegal 2011 type improvement this winter and spring then I can see Mayo winning it.

Roscommon are going backwards after it looked like they would improve under Fergal O' Donnell

Sligo are hardy but would have to play Mayo in Castlebar if they meet before a final, which I doubt they will relish.

Galway may be a dark horse as I said depending on what Mulholland can do with them over the winter, and if they play Mayo it will be in Galway which is a place that Mayo have struggled.
A return to Div 1 and a good run in the All Ireland qualifiers may count as a good year for them.

But if Mayo are serious contenders for 2013, which is all we have heard from them since Sunday evening, they they should be certainly putting away the other teams in Connaught without too much fuss.

Mayo have not won 3 in a row since 1949, 1950, 1951.

yop · 26-09-2012 05:26PM

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Well I would not totally discount the opposition but unless Galway have a Mayo\Donegal 2011 type improvement this winter and spring then I can see Mayo winning it.

Roscommon are going backwards after it looked like they would improve under Fergal O' Donnell

Sligo are hardy but would have to play Mayo in Castlebar if they meet before a final, which I doubt they will relish.

Galway may be a dark horse as I said depending on what Mulholland can do with them over the winter, and if they play Mayo it will be in Galway which is a place that Mayo have struggled.
A return to Div 1 and a good run in the All Ireland qualifiers may count as a good year for them.

But if Mayo are serious contenders for 2013, which is all we have heard from them since Sunday evening, they they should be certainly putting away the other teams in Connaught without too much fuss.

Mayo have not won 3 in a row since 1949, 1950, 1951.

Agree totally, BUT wouldn't it be better if we "sneak" in again,

mayo.mick · 26-09-2012 06:00PM

We still are only regarded as 5th best team, what suits us

Kerry 11/4
Donegal 9/2
Dublin 9/2
Cork 9/2
Mayo 13/2
Tyrone 20/1
Kildare 25/1
Meath 25/1
Galway 66/1
Laois 66/1
Armagh 66/1
Derry 66/1
Down 66/1
Longford 80/1
Wexford 100/1
Monaghan 125/1
Limerick 150/1
Sligo 200/1
Westmeath200/1
Tipperary 200/1
Louth 250/1
Cavan 250/1
London 250/1
Offaly 300/1
Wicklow 500/1
Antrim 500/1
Fermanagh 500/1
Leitrim 1000/1
Clare 1000/1
Carlow 2000/1
Waterford 2000/1
New York 2000/1

padd b1975 · 26-09-2012 06:04PM

mayo.mick wrote: »

We still are only regarded as 5th best team, what suits us

Kerry 11/4
Donegal 9/2
Dublin 9/2
Cork 9/2
Mayo 13/2
Tyrone 20/1
Kildare 25/1
Meath 25/1
Galway 66/1
Laois 66/1
Armagh 66/1
Derry 66/1
Down 66/1
Longford 80/1
Wexford 100/1
Monaghan 125/1
Limerick 150/1
Sligo 200/1
Westmeath200/1
Tipperary 200/1
Louth 250/1
Cavan 250/1
London 250/1
Offaly 300/1
Wicklow 500/1
Antrim 500/1
Fermanagh 500/1
Leitrim 1000/1
Clare 1000/1
Carlow 2000/1
Waterford 2000/1
New York 2000/1

What odds are "De Rossies"??:)

cgpg5 · 26-09-2012 06:12PM

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

But if Mayo are serious contenders for 2013, which is all we have heard from them since Sunday evening, they they should be certainly putting away the other teams in Connaught without too much fuss.

.

Hear hear

Defiler Of The Coffin · 26-09-2012 06:16PM

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Well I would not totally discount the opposition but unless Galway have a Mayo\Donegal 2011 type improvement this winter and spring then I can see Mayo winning it.

Roscommon are going backwards after it looked like they would improve under Fergal O' Donnell

Sligo are hardy but would have to play Mayo in Castlebar if they meet before a final, which I doubt they will relish.

Galway may be a dark horse as I said depending on what Mulholland can do with them over the winter, and if they play Mayo it will be in Galway which is a place that Mayo have struggled.
A return to Div 1 and a good run in the All Ireland qualifiers may count as a good year for them.

But if Mayo are serious contenders for 2013, which is all we have heard from them since Sunday evening, they they should be certainly putting away the other teams in Connaught without too much fuss.

Mayo have not won 3 in a row since 1949, 1950, 1951.

Still, disasters happen. Mayo have never reached the semi-final after moving through the qualifiers so I would be eager to see them lift the Nestor cup. Given the way they picked themselves up against Donegal however I would be more hopeful of a successful qualifier campaign if that's the way it goes

mayo.mick · 26-09-2012 06:51PM

padd b1975 wrote: »

What odds are "De Rossies"??:)

Just seen that, must'nt be playing next year:pac:

davegrohl48 · 27-09-2012 12:10AM

Overall I have alot of optimism that Mayo can be better next year but ... that may still only mean quarter final/semi final.
1. Midfield options - Two O'Sheas, Barry Moran only back from injuries. Jason Gibbons needs another year of strength work. He's come a long way already from a player who had no pace.
2. Full Forward - I expect us to operate there next year throughout FBD and League with a big man in the square. Any of Barry Moran/Seamus O'Shea.
3. Return of Andy Moran (fingers crossed)
I think Seamus O'Shea could be best option at full forward as he has the power to take on a guy like McGee or Shields.
Centre forward is an issue. Maybe a rejuvenated Darren Coen could be an option as he can pass accurately off left or right. Injured was last I had heard?
Plus you probably need one other big corner forward otherwise we lack height upfront. Possibly Conor O'Shea as he's probably the only option in the county who has the size and the skill.
The likes of Alan Murphy could be an exciting option.

ColeTrain · 27-09-2012 12:14AM

Has anyone heard anything about Pearce Hanley coming back? I heard it off two people at the weekend. Just putting it out there, could be 100% bullsh*t.

27-09-2012 12:40AM

davegrohl48 wrote: »

Overall I have alot of optimism that Mayo can be better next year but ... that may still only mean quarter final/semi final.
1. Midfield options - Two O'Sheas, Barry Moran only back from injuries. Jason Gibbons needs another year of strength work. He's come a long way already from a player who had no pace.
2. Full Forward - I expect us to operate there next year throughout FBD and League with a big man in the square. Any of Barry Moran/Seamus O'Shea.
3. Return of Andy Moran (fingers crossed)
I think Seamus O'Shea could be best option at full forward as he has the power to take on a guy like McGee or Shields.
Centre forward is an issue. Maybe a rejuvenated Darren Coen could be an option as he can pass accurately off left or right. Injured was last I had heard?
Plus you probably need one other big corner forward otherwise we lack height upfront. Possibly Conor O'Shea as he's probably the only option in the county who has the size and the skill.
The likes of Alan Murphy could be an exciting option.

AOS would be useful in as number 11, him using his strength to push through would draw the backs and release a forward to pass too. Our current full forwards are too small to both beat their man and score.

ColeTrain · 27-09-2012 12:46AM

Deleted User wrote: »

AOS would be useful in as number 11, him using his strength to push through would draw the backs and release a forward to pass too. Our current full forwards are too small to both beat their man and score.

No harm in giving us options there but he was certainly needed in midfield this season. There's no reason why he can't be moved about though.

davegrohl48 · 27-09-2012 12:48AM

Yes AOS might be useful at centre forward too. For winning frees and creating overlaps by bursting through the opposition half backline.
He wasn't fit in his first three years in the senior team. Now he's getting towards a higher level.
Another forgotten player is James Kilcullen of Ballaghadereen. It would be good to see him lining up on someone like Murhpy to match him in the size stakes.

Fr Tod Umptious · 27-09-2012 10:16AM

Defiler Of The Coffin wrote: »

Still, disasters happen. Mayo have never reached the semi-final after moving through the qualifiers so I would be eager to see them lift the Nestor cup. Given the way they picked themselves up against Donegal however I would be more hopeful of a successful qualifier campaign if that's the way it goes

Well if they pick themselves up in the qualifiers as they did v Donegal then will will be out before they even see Croke Park.

Against Donegal they lost by 4 pts, they were never withing 3ots of them, and they fared worse in the second half than in the first.

For a team like Mayo and a trainer like Horan, who we are led to believe values preparation and focus and routine, a trip through the back door is not an option, it f**ks with your plans, you could meet anyone anywhere on any given Saturday or Sunday.

Barring injuries etc Mayo should not be contemplating the back door, and for a team going for 3 in a row in Connaught for the first time since you know when, a trip through the back door may be difficult to 'get up for' as we have seen before from Mayo.

davegrohl48 wrote: »

Overall I have alot of optimism that Mayo can be better next year but ... that may still only mean quarter final/semi final.
1. Midfield options - Two O'Sheas, Barry Moran only back from injuries. Jason Gibbons needs another year of strength work. He's come a long way already from a player who had no pace.
2. Full Forward - I expect us to operate there next year throughout FBD and League with a big man in the square. Any of Barry Moran/Seamus O'Shea.
3. Return of Andy Moran (fingers crossed)
I think Seamus O'Shea could be best option at full forward as he has the power to take on a guy like McGee or Shields.
Centre forward is an issue. Maybe a rejuvenated Darren Coen could be an option as he can pass accurately off left or right. Injured was last I had heard?
Plus you probably need one other big corner forward otherwise we lack height upfront. Possibly Conor O'Shea as he's probably the only option in the county who has the size and the skill.
The likes of Alan Murphy could be an exciting option.

I would be more if favour of putting Seamus O' Shea in the forwards as opposed to Aidan.
Unless Gibbons, Geraghty and Barry Moran are really stepping it up up we will need Aidan at mid-field, plus he has been moved around a lot in his senior career, I would prefer to see him cement a position rather than moving him again.

MayoForSam · 27-09-2012 11:54AM

ColeTrain wrote: »

Has anyone heard anything about Pearce Hanley coming back? I heard it off two people at the weekend. Just putting it out there, could be 100% bullsh*t.

I doubt this very much, he seems to be doing well with the Brisbane Lions this year: http://www.joe.ie/sports/random-sports-stuff/video-pearse-hanley-shows-some-fine-form-down-under-0026483-1

He's a great loss to Mayo football, he would slot straight in with a Michael Murphy-like physique

. Maybe he'll do a Tadhg Kennelly and come back here in a few years to win an All-Ireland when it suits him?

Defiler Of The Coffin · 27-09-2012 01:17PM

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Well if they pick themselves up in the qualifiers as they did v Donegal then will will be out before they even see Croke Park.

Against Donegal they lost by 4 pts, they were never withing 3ots of them, and they fared worse in the second half than in the first.

For a team like Mayo and a trainer like Horan, who we are led to believe values preparation and focus and routine, a trip through the back door is not an option, it f**ks with your plans, you could meet anyone anywhere on any given Saturday or Sunday.

Barring injuries etc Mayo should not be contemplating the back door, and for a team going for 3 in a row in Connaught for the first time since you know when, a trip through the back door may be difficult to 'get up for' as we have seen before from Mayo.

Of course we should not be contemplating the qualifiers unless we're in them but the Kerrys and Tyrones of this world are able to pick themselves up and power on so why not Mayo? As David Brady once said we should be thinking about the championship like the Champions League, one loss doesn't mean the end of the whole campaign. You're twisting my comments about the Donegal match, previous Mayo teams would have been beaten out the gate after going 7 points down but this Mayo team came back to within a goal, that's why I think we are in a better position to make a successful run through the qualifiers, there is a toughness to this team that hasn't been seen in Mayo for a long time.

keane2097 · 27-09-2012 02:11PM

ColeTrain wrote: »

Has anyone heard anything about Pearce Hanley coming back? I heard it off two people at the weekend. Just putting it out there, could be 100% bullsh*t.

Not a hope, had an utterly superb year for Brisbane.

ColeTrain · 27-09-2012 02:16PM

MayoForSam wrote: »

I doubt this very much, he seems to be doing well with the Brisbane Lions this year: http://www.joe.ie/sports/random-sports-stuff/video-pearse-hanley-shows-some-fine-form-down-under-0026483-1

He's a great loss to Mayo football, he would slot straight in with a Michael Murphy-like physique . Maybe he'll do a Tadhg Kennelly and come back here in a few years to win an All-Ireland when it suits him?

keane2097 wrote: »

Not a hope, had an utterly superb year for Brisbane.

Was thinking it would be too good to be true.

Syferus · 27-09-2012 03:01PM

MayoForSam wrote: »

I doubt this very much, he seems to be doing well with the Brisbane Lions this year: http://www.joe.ie/sports/random-sports-stuff/video-pearse-hanley-shows-some-fine-form-down-under-0026483-1

He's a great loss to Mayo football, he would slot straight in with a Michael Murphy-like physique . Maybe he'll do a Tadhg Kennelly and come back here in a few years to win an All-Ireland when it suits him?

:eek:

Pearce'd have to drink a field of cows dry to be as wide as Michael Murphy. His game is as much about finesse and running as it is about size and he's probably best suited to a half-forward role at this hypothetical stage.

And sure Pearce is waiting to come back and represent his native Rossies anyways

Fr Tod Umptious · 28-09-2012 09:57AM

yop wrote: »

Agree totally, BUT wouldn't it be better if we "sneak" in again,

well if you wish to believe Damien Stack in this weeks Kerryman newspaper then I think we may well 'sneak' in again next yaer

In a piece he has about Cian O' Neill moving from Mayo to Kerry he says (and I am paraphrasing) '...what he brings......may well help Kerry challenge Donegal and Dublin and Cork for next years All Ireland'

TonyStark · 28-09-2012 05:21PM

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

yop wrote: »

Agree totally, BUT wouldn't it be better if we "sneak" in again,

well if you wish to believe Damien Stack in this weeks Kerryman newspaper then I think we may well 'sneak' in again next yaer

In a piece he has about Cian O' Neill moving from Mayo to Kerry he says (and I am paraphrasing) '...what he brings......may well help Kerry challenge Donegal and Dublin and Cork for next years All Ireland'

We'll be flying in under the radar at least..

Hulk Hands · 28-09-2012 06:04PM

Syferus wrote: »

And sure Pearce is waiting to come back and represent his native Rossies anyways

He was always a mayo fan to be fair. Andy Moran on the other hand...

Davin Stand · 28-09-2012 08:04PM

Bad form by the Mayo County Board to pull out of the FBD Final against New York. Such short notice shows no respect for New York players or Board.

MaroonAndGreen · 28-09-2012 09:34PM

right sickener for the New York players!

Defiler Of The Coffin · 28-09-2012 09:37PM

Davin Stand wrote: »

Bad form by the Mayo County Board to pull out of the FBD Final against New York. Such short notice shows no respect for New York players or Board.

What could they do? They couldn't field a team

Davin Stand · 28-09-2012 10:02PM

I would be very surprised if you could not get 20 Mayo footballers to travel to New York to play a match.

ColeTrain · 28-09-2012 10:20PM

Money is tight obviously.

Defiler Of The Coffin · 28-09-2012 11:56PM

Liam McHale has come out and criticised the management - http://www.hoganstand.com/Mayo/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=178250

MaroonAndGreen · 29-09-2012 12:04AM

McHale will have to wait a while for his chance, Horan is there for the long term

Clareman · 29-09-2012 12:14AM

Mr. McHale would be better placed examining his own performance this year in charge of a county rather than commenting on others.

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