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If rejoining the UK meant jobs and an end to austerity, would you?

  • 24-09-2012 08:17PM
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 309 ✭✭


    Firstly, I know the UK has it's own real bugetary difficulties but this is a purely hypothetically, IF.....thread

    So basically if the republic were to rejoin the UK (while retaining a national parliment) would result in good jobs with good availibility and an end to austerity and cuts, woudl you be up for it?

    Or would you be one of the "rather die on my feet..........." rabbler brigade like was on Niall Boylan @night a few weeks ago.

    If re-joining the UK meant jobs and an end to austerity, would you? 303 votes

    Yes. I'll take the job and join the UK.
    0%
    NO! I rather die on me feet than live on my knees.....800 years...de Brits...rabble rabble
    100%
    ManachZascarRicharddannyd20StarkMy name is MudLoGiEshinobigeniecujimmyZhanechrismonAnnasopranxbyveromdwjpgRed AlertDe HipsterSleepyneilmWitchieSuaimhneach 303 votes


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭General General


    Firstly, I know the UK has it's own real bugetary difficulties but this is a purely hypothetically, IF.....thread

    So basically if the republic were to rejoin the UK (while retaining a national parliment) would result in good jobs with good availibility and an end to austerity and cuts, woudl you be up for it?

    Or would you be one of the "rather live on my feet..........." rabbler brigade like was on Niall Boylan @night a few weeks ago.

    So your question is: would you be up for rejoining the UK or are you one of the rabbler brigade?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    If rejoining the UK meant jobs and an end to austerity, would you?
    No.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,496 ✭✭✭Boombastic


    Firstly, I know the UK has it's own real bugetary difficulties but this is a purely hypothetically, IF.....thread

    So basically if the republic were to rejoin the UK (while retaining a national parliment) would result in good jobs with good availibility and an end to austerity and cuts, woudl you be up for it?

    Or would you be one of the "rather live on my feet..........." rabbler brigade like was on Niall Boylan @night a few weeks ago.

    Are they giving out soup?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,869 ✭✭✭asherbassad


    Firstly, I know the UK has it's own real bugetary difficulties but this is a purely hypothetically, IF.....thread

    So basically if the republic were to rejoin the UK (while retaining a national parliment) would result in good jobs with good availibility and an end to austerity and cuts, woudl you be up for it?

    Or would you be one of the "rather live on my feet..........." rabbler brigade like was on Niall Boylan @night a few weeks ago.

    So living standards up North rival those of Switzerland/Dubai/Singapore

    :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,335 ✭✭✭wendell borton


    If I didn't have this gun, the king of England could walk right in here and start pushing you around.
    Homer Simpson


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 309 ✭✭haulagebasher


    NO! I rather die on me feet than live on my knees.....800 years...de Brits...rabble rabble
    Cool. So as the poll stands, 5/8 of people are in the "800 years brigade".

    3/8 in favour. Thats better than I thought.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,114 ✭✭✭OU812


    NO! I rather die on me feet than live on my knees.....800 years...de Brits...rabble rabble
    Hell yeah. We've demonstrated our politicians are self serving & untrustworthy & that we're not capable of taking care of ourselves, so why not avail of the benefits it would bring us.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    Absolutely not. Things are temporarily not fantastic, but its only a blip. Look back over the last 90 years of independence. There were good times and bad times. We've had the Emergency when tea was rationed(tea!?!), the Troubles, when people were getting blown up. Right now we just have the Unpleasentness where people are living in houses they can't quite afford. They have tea and their not being blown up. Things aint so bad yet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 655 ✭✭✭hyperborean


    NO! I rather die on me feet than live on my knees.....800 years...de Brits...rabble rabble
    Eire (the republic) has never been part of the Uk? What an odd thread.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 309 ✭✭haulagebasher


    NO! I rather die on me feet than live on my knees.....800 years...de Brits...rabble rabble
    Well the Dail could keep doing the parish pump stuff they are good at like filling potholes and getting grants for farmers' sons. They could draft a national budget and get it approved by central gov. Westminster can take care of the macroeconomic stuff cos we're shít at it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,689 ✭✭✭Tombi!


    NO! I rather die on me feet than live on my knees.....800 years...de Brits...rabble rabble
    I voted yes, if we still get to have our own language/culture/etc.
    And so long as I am not expected to sit around watching the fecking Queen give speeches.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,533 ✭✭✭the keen edge


    I'd like to vote Yes, but I'm afraid what the neighbours would think.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30 ehmjay


    Eire (the republic) has never been part of the Uk? What an odd thread.....

    United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland became United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland after partition.

    I'll vote yes if we can get rid of our national parliament.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,933 ✭✭✭holystungun9


    :):):) I never tire of these what if/why not/should we/should they/ how could we/ how could they/ Republic/ Eire/ the North/ the U.K/ Britain/ united Ireland/ British Ilses type threads.:):):) I just love it!!!

    #Notreally


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 309 ✭✭haulagebasher


    NO! I rather die on me feet than live on my knees.....800 years...de Brits...rabble rabble
    I voted yes, if we still get to have our own language/culture/etc.
    And so long as I am not expected to sit around watching the fecking Queen give speeches.

    The Welsh have theirs, the Scots have theirs, the English have thiers, the Norn Irish have theirs, they'd sure as hell be mean do single out the Southern Irish as that is what we'd become - Southern Ireland - pretty much bring back what was laid out in the 1921 Gov of Ireland Act


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,632 ✭✭✭eth0


    You could just like omg totally I dunno loike go to the UK and get the job there and come back to Ireland when things improve


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,515 ✭✭✭✭admiralofthefleet


    absolutely no


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 309 ✭✭haulagebasher


    NO! I rather die on me feet than live on my knees.....800 years...de Brits...rabble rabble
    I'm genuinely surprised. I thought the poll would be more like 90/10 to the tiochaigh ar la types.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 465 ✭✭Rigol


    No. Its a bad spell we're going through alright, but by trading in our individuality we would merely become something like a new 'Wales' ... an impotent population for London to just dump upon and push around to the benefit of the toffs of Westminster.


    oh and monarchy ....vomit.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 309 ✭✭haulagebasher


    NO! I rather die on me feet than live on my knees.....800 years...de Brits...rabble rabble
    Rigol wrote: »

    oh and monarchy ....vomit.

    Republicanism.....VOMIT:p


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 655 ✭✭✭hyperborean


    NO! I rather die on me feet than live on my knees.....800 years...de Brits...rabble rabble
    ehmjay wrote: »
    United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland became United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland after partition.

    your point is?
    OP wrote:
    So basically if the republic were to rejoin the UK


    How can the republic rejoin the UK, it was never part of it?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,869 ✭✭✭asherbassad


    Well the Dail could keep doing the parish pump stuff they are good at like filling potholes and getting grants for farmers' sons. They could draft a national budget and get it approved by central gov. Westminster can take care of the macroeconomic stuff cos we're shít at it.

    The UK has been an independent state for centuries. Ireland for mere decades. Our quality and standards of living are practically the same.

    Though I can imagine your beloved Brit politicians would take the fairly excellent Irish education system and gut it, putting in place their absurd comp schools and turning every public education institution into a drop-out factory producing illiterates the like of which you see in every sink estate the length and breadth of Britannia.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 725 ✭✭✭Varied


    Quite possibly the most retarded opening post I have ever seen on boards.

    Bravo OP.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 309 ✭✭haulagebasher


    NO! I rather die on me feet than live on my knees.....800 years...de Brits...rabble rabble
    your point is?




    How can the republic rejoin the UK, it was never part of it?

    Ah sure jaysus.... Well what is the republic today. Obvisously it would no longer be the republic if what currently is the republic rejoined. They'd probably just call it Southern Ireland.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,349 ✭✭✭✭starlit


    NO! I rather die on me feet than live on my knees.....800 years...de Brits...rabble rabble
    I don't think it make much of a difference might have done so when joining the EU but has it made much of a difference now with a double dip recession, when EU is affected by Unemployment we are too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 465 ✭✭Rigol


    I'm genuinely surprised. I thought the poll would be more like 90/10 to the tiochaigh ar la types.

    I think the wording of the question has something to do with the results.
    It infers that if you vote no you are some kind of small-minded, cider bottle throwing, tribalist.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,199 ✭✭✭Shryke


    I don't think anyone that votes yes is following the poor thick old tories as they push Britain into a double dip recession, destroy the nhs and have their obscene friendships with media and business shown up in public.
    Their most recent reshuffle has seen Jeremy hunt become health secretary, a man that believes in homeopathy, and that's ignoring his horrendous track record.
    Maybe when labour get back in I'd think it wasn't the worst idea but there needs to be a proper labour government. Miliband looks like one of the muppets. I'm not convinced.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30 ehmjay


    your point is?
    It's not my point really, more a technical point of history.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,345 ✭✭✭doolox


    NO! I rather die on me feet than live on my knees.....800 years...de Brits...rabble rabble
    I have a substantial link to the UK in that two of my uncles are English nationals who married Irish women, my aunts on my mothers side. My mother and father got jobs over there in the late 40's when there was nothing here in Ireland if you didn't get the land, join the church or know someone with influence to get a state job.

    My mother did her nurse training in England and still has a passion for her vocation, she always saw nursing as more than just a job for money and thoroughly enjoyed her 12 years there.

    My father, after several years selling insurance, working in hardware retail etc in Ireland, got a job in a Dairy in Manchester and was involved several years later in milk deliveries around Galway City when bottled milk was introduced to Galway in the mid to late 50's. He used his knowledge and skills gained in England for the next 30 yrs to earn a good living.

    Most people I knew as a child got their start in a job in England and brought their expertise home to Ireland to make a good living. It seemed to me that those who never left and had no family or property advantages were never able to rise above subsistance. Same applied to those with US or other foreign experience but the vast majority of returnees were from England.

    In terms of economics, personal development and getting ahead in a material way having closer ties with England would be advantageous but would cause a lot of anger among those of an extreme republican leaning who hate England for the historical legacy of the tragic relationship between these two Islands

    It should be possible to embrace and endorse our Anglophone traditions by closer ties to the US the UK and other commonwealth countries but there seems to be a denial of the existence and importance of English culture and language in the everyday experience of Irish people and an attempt to force the issue of regaelicization of the general populace through compulsion and exclusion of monoglot anglophones from many important sources of employment, teaching for example.

    Many distinguishing features and customs that differentiated the Irish and the English in that past no longer apply.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 309 ✭✭haulagebasher


    NO! I rather die on me feet than live on my knees.....800 years...de Brits...rabble rabble
    .....................Though I can imagine your beloved Brit politicians would take the fairly excellent Irish education system and gut it, putting in place their absurd comp schools and turning every public education institution into a drop-out factory producing illiterates the like of which you see in every sink estate the length and breadth of Britannia.

    :confused: bollaaaaaaacks.


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