Irish Daily Star to shut?

Seanchai · 15-09-2012 10:41PM

M cebee wrote: »

like you just demeaned the daily star readers?

Not quite: they weren't named. It's not like I was discussing the body parts of Beyonce Rihanna Shania Jordan Murphy, who everybody knows of, from the Liberties. That would be crass.

Solair · 15-09-2012 10:41PM

The only thing that will change this kind of coverage is if people grow up a bit and stop prying into the intimate details of private lives of celebrities.

Unfortunately, as long as there are a % of the public who are basically voyeurs, there will always be a demand for this kind of rubbish.

Tabloids and red-tops have always made their money out of selling stories like this. We can moralise until the cows come home, but the market's there and it's global.

What I find so utterly hypocritical about this is that the same people who were on ranting about what a disgraceful intrusion this was would largely be the same people who would see nothing wrong with publishing intimate details of non-royal celebrities personal lives!

They're simply running scared because they feel that UK public's taken a turn against this kind of tittle-tattle on royals.

I really don't even understand what the hype was about. Surely we've moved on since Victorian times and are no longer shocked by boobs or guys in the nip. Even if they are royalty! She was doing nothing shocking or remotely newsworthy!

later12 · 15-09-2012 10:43PM

mike65 wrote: »

What? Kate is fragrant!

The Italian rag that's publishing these pix is owned by Silvio Berlusconi which is ironic to say the least.

Is fragrant the new word for hot?

Genuine question btw, I'm still not quite used to "sick".

Scioch · 15-09-2012 10:50PM

Regardless of who she is the girl was in a private estate in the company of family and friends. Some piece of shít snapped some indecent pics and then another piece of shít published them in a rag to make a few quid.

Rat bastards one and all and I hope they get whats coming to them.

kowloon · 15-09-2012 10:50PM

I have to wonder if there would be as much trouble if they'd published pictures of me topless on my estate.

later12 · 15-09-2012 10:52PM

kowloon wrote: »

I have to wonder if there would be as much trouble if they'd published pictures of me topless on my estate.

If you were a woman?
Bigger.
And it would be the IDM leading the charge against such an invasion of privacy.

Tox56 · 15-09-2012 10:52PM

kowloon wrote: »

I have to wonder if there would be as much trouble if they'd published pictures of me topless on my estate.

If I went to your estate and starting taking pictures of you topless without your knowledge and I was caught, I'd imagine I would be in quite a lot of trouble.

kowloon · 15-09-2012 10:53PM

later12 wrote: »

If you were a woman?
Bigger.
And it would be the IDM leading the charge against such an invasion of privacy.

You sexist swine! :pac:

J. Marston · 15-09-2012 10:53PM

Cavehill Red wrote: »

Dozens of Irish jobs are set to be lost all because one tasteless gimp decided to reprint some blurry pics of some English bint's baps.
Why not replace the editor and move along if this is deemed so heinous a crime to a man (Richard Desmond) who made his entire fortune publishing blurry pictures of English bints' baps?
Why must the Irish media suffer the loss of another national newspaper for the sensitivities of a porn magnate seeking a knighthood?

Baps must be the worst ever slang word for boobs.

Scioch · 15-09-2012 10:54PM

kowloon wrote: »

I have to wonder if there would be as much trouble if they'd published pictures of me topless on my estate.

No because they would offer you a lump sum to drop all action and nobody would give a shít. Royals dont need money they cant be bought off, they need to protect their image and they have friends in high places who are prepared to go all out to help them. Hence the furore.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 15-09-2012 10:54PM

Seanchai wrote: »

I accept that. But she chooses that lifestyle. It is her choice. If she threw in the towel like the English guy in the 1930s and chose a private life she wouldn't have this problem. The problem seems to be that the British royal family had made deals with the British media about not doing this sort of thing, but they never made similar deals with foreign media. What is unacceptable in Britain is unacceptable simply because of her position in that society. To people outside that society, she is just another celebrity.

Personally, I think it would be a better world without tabloids or any journalists who are not public interest journalists. But until that changes exceptions should not be made for a "celebrity" for political reasons.

i don't make any distinctino between celebrity and royalty when it comes to tabloids, but this is the kind of **** that led to people getting killed in the mid ninties.

While you can harp on about who she is, you can not condone the creepy behaveiour of the journalists: either taking a picture of someone topless and publishing it is illegal or immoral or it isn't. Who is in the picture doesn't make a difference.

15-09-2012 10:54PM

kowloon wrote: »

I have to wonder if there would be as much trouble if they'd published pictures of me topless on my estate.

Probably not! :pac:

kowloon · 15-09-2012 10:57PM

Scioch wrote: »

No because they would offer you a lump sum to drop all action and nobody would give a shít. Royals dont need money they cant be bought off, they need to protect their image and they have friends in high places who are prepared to go all out to help them. Hence the furore.

There's an interesting aspect. I also wonder if photographers who fail to get a market for their photos sometimes dabble in a bit of blackmail.

Sir Pompous Righteousness · 15-09-2012 11:00PM

Cavehill Red wrote: »

It goes to the accuracy of what you wrote.

A minor error on my part, pedantic on your part.

Cavehill Red wrote: »

While people who lose limbs in industrial accidents get thousands?

Never said that. For what it's worth, the losses incurred by someone as a result of a lost limb might run into millions too. Depends on their circumstances.

Cavehill Red wrote: »

Thankfully the libel laws and other legal circumscriptions of media activity do not yet adhere to your bizarre standards.

And here was me thinking that the punishment ought to be proportionally to the crime and/or losses incurred by the victim. Oh well. Unfortunately, the law nowadays doesn't conform to these standards.

Cavehill Red wrote: »

Yes, and I already told you...

There was no need to repeat yourself.

hardCopy · 15-09-2012 11:03PM

I never heard of Northern and Shell before tonight, seems they item TVX and Channel 5, the home of Naked Darts!

Ridiculous hypocrisy complaining about this now.

15-09-2012 11:08PM

hardCopy wrote: »

I never heard of Northern and Shell before tonight, seems they item TVX and Channel 5, the home of Naked Darts!

Ridiculous hypocrisy complaining about this now.

Not at all, there is a big difference between giving exhibitionists a platform and publishing photos taken without the consent of the people they have stalked!

Scioch · 15-09-2012 11:08PM

kowloon wrote: »

There's an interesting aspect. I also wonder if photographers who fail to get a market for their photos sometimes dabble in a bit of blackmail.

Quick google throws back plenty of cases and you'd imagine most would never see the light of day. Not as if they have any morals considering their line of work.

Cazale · 15-09-2012 11:11PM

I found the bloodied close-up pictures of Alan Ryan's last moments on the front page of the Star last week a little more tasteless than some blurry pictures of some saggy tits if I'm honest.

15-09-2012 11:12PM

Scioch wrote: »

Quick google throws back plenty of cases and you'd imagine most would never see the light of day. Not as if they have any morals considering their line of work.

Having played a part in the death of her mother in law, you're probably correct.

wicklowwonder · 15-09-2012 11:15PM

Not a fan of the paper but if it closes it will leave a gap in the market and a further loss of choice for the Irish people. The Sunday Tribune/News of the World readers still haven't returned to the Sunday newspaper market, I wonder will we see the same with the Star readers, will they buy another paper. Not sure how long the Sunday Business Post can last for either in this marketplace. Sad day for Irish reporting.

mikehunts · 15-09-2012 11:20PM

I seen her tits and they are nothing to write home about.

later12 · 15-09-2012 11:22PM

mikehunts wrote: »

I seen her tits and they are nothing to write home about.

True. And they shouldn't be ; that's the woman's very point of view, I'm sure.

squod · 15-09-2012 11:23PM

I'll miss their in-dept reporting of.......

Soccer
xfactor
Dublin crime news
Soccer
Celebs who watch xfactor

later12 · 15-09-2012 11:28PM

There was another red top last week published a story about some TV presenter who was having an affair; pictured him having an intimate moment with his mistress. I think it was The People?

Where do these people get off thinking they have a right to involve themselves in individuals' private lives in such a catastrophic way ; and do they have that right, and if so, why on Earth should they keep it?

I'd cautiously suggest we move along the French model of privacy laws (yes, slightly ironic considering the original magazine who bought the pictures are French), but it usually seems to work quite well in France, where there is a culture of not commenting on public figure's private lives, even where there is some lurid (but ultimately meaningless) scandal or gossip to be discussed.

Helix · 15-09-2012 11:34PM

later12 wrote: »

There was another red top last week published a story about some TV presenter who was having an affair; pictured him having an intimate moment with his mistress. I think it was The People?

Where do these people get off thinking they have a right to involve themselves in individuals' private lives in such a catastrophic way ; and do they have that right, and if so, why on Earth should they keep it?

I'd cautiously suggest we move along the French model of privacy laws (yes, slightly ironic considering the original magazine who bought the pictures are French), but it usually seems to work quite well in France, where there is a culture of not commenting on public figure's private lives, even where there is some lurid (but ultimately meaningless) scandal or gossip to be discussed.

the problem is that the great unwashed really, really, really want to read that complete and utter garbage. the red tops are just providing what the people want

celebrity worship culture is the issue, not the ones offering it up, bad and all as they are

the most ironic thing about this is that the punters most offended by the topless pictures are likely the ones who pick up every single magazine or newspaper that has your woman in it

prettygurrly · 15-09-2012 11:51PM

I was really sad to see that this had happened because I was hoping that after all the crap we've had to go through to get on some sort of amicable footing with our neighbours who provide thousands of our families with jobs (and probably me when I finish my studies) we would have taken a moral high ground and just not published the photos. The other sad thing is that because an Irish newspaper has published these photos, all us Irish have now been tainted with the horrid voyeuristic brush.

Put it this way, if you're on a private estate and someone has to stand a mile away from you to take a pic with a long lens then there's something seriously wrong with that pic. No part of what happened was anyway endorsed by the couple. Indeed if she'd been on a public beach then what do you expect? But she wasn't. Of course if you were sunbathing on a beach with your bikini top off and some guy stood there and took your photo I doubt you'd be happy about it despite the fact that you are technically not on private property. In most cases the person taking the photo would be deemed a pervert and probably chased off...

I can't imagine what it will be like for Kate to be shaking people's hands at various events and wondering if they've seen her boobs (and possibly more if other photos get published it seems). I'd hate it anyway.

I've stopped buying anything that has tasteless photos of anyone in it and plan to continue that with not ever buying the Star again. I have a huge problem with my Dad buying the Sun due to the photos of the footballer when he was clinically dead and the response to the Hillsborough disaster but I have no control over what he buys. Essentially, if you are disgusted with these publications actions then DONT BUY THEIR PRODUCE! Loss of revenue is the only way these people learn.

The Idyll Race · 15-09-2012 11:51PM

wicklowwonder wrote: »

Not a fan of the paper but if it closes it will leave a gap in the market and a further loss of choice for the Irish people. The Sunday Tribune/News of the World readers still haven't returned to the Sunday newspaper market, I wonder will we see the same with the Star readers, will they buy another paper. Not sure how long the Sunday Business Post can last for either in this marketplace. Sad day for Irish reporting.

Ex Tribune reader, really don't think that either the Sindo or the Business Post are worth a damn. So I don't buy an Irish Sunday and read the Observer instead.

Aidric · 15-09-2012 11:55PM

later12 wrote: »

I'd cautiously suggest we move along the French model of privacy laws (yes, slightly ironic considering the original magazine who bought the pictures are French), but it usually seems to work quite well in France, where there is a culture of not commenting on public figure's private lives, even where there is some lurid (but ultimately meaningless) scandal or gossip to be discussed.

Dominique Strauss-Kahn is glad of this.

Cienciano · 16-09-2012 12:03AM

Latchy wrote: »

Like the sun newspaper when it published the front page picture of those two young sisters and other fans squashed up against the fence at Hillsborough and suffocating ,with no hope of been saved .It's one thing to hear your daughters have died at a football match but to see the horror of their gruesome deaths up close and splashed all over the front page of some rag is beyond any shred of decency .

This is worse, you can see Kates nipple.

Mal-Adjusted · 16-09-2012 12:11AM

Just saw them chatting about it on Sky News. I find it odd that they'll fall over themselves denouncing the pictures but 30 seconds later showed the images of the guy who made that anti-Muslim film what's causing all the fuss and an actress in it. Considering how far they went to conceal their identities, i'd consider that a far more serious issue

Irish Daily Star to shut?

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