Dacia Duster

Light Switch · 23-08-2012 12:28AM

Renault Garage on the Dock Road in Limerick do them I think

delthedriver · 25-08-2012 04:21PM

delthedriver wrote: »

Just a car enthusiast, always interested in something new to the market.

Thanks Colm MCM! Giving the car serious consideration as second car for delivery in 2013. What with juice prices going up, the Renault diesel engine may well be the job . With 3 year warranty , reckon it will owe me nothing after 3 years hacking around.
Many thanks

delthedriver · 25-08-2012 04:23PM

Light Switch wrote: »

Renault Garage on the Dock Road in Limerick do them I think

Many thanks ,
Yes Dennehys the Renault Dealer.

Marlow · 25-08-2012 05:18PM

colm_mcm wrote: »

Considering the octavia was launched in around 1996 it was easily on par, and in a lot of cases ahead of its rivals. Cabin quality for example was in a different league to the competition when you consider it was in the mk3 golf, ford escort, fiat brava, Toyota corolla class.

The Mk1 Octavia was based on the Passat chassis. It's first the second generation and onwards that is based on Jetta/Golf chassis. The Superb then was launched on Passat chassis.

/M

Hellrazer · 25-08-2012 05:32PM

zerks wrote: »

Took a spin in one,very impressed.Smooth,quiet ride.Very similar to a Quashqi.Decent boot space too.
Diesel engine is the same as the one in the Quashqi.

It seems we are getting the version with electric windows,alloys etc.compared to the more basic Continental model.

The €15k version won't have 4wd but I reckon this won't be an issue as most people will be using it as a 'car'.

Seems there's a lot of interest in it as the guy in the garage said they have taken a lot of orders for next year when it hit's the showrooms proper.
If I had €15k & the choice of this or the Clio-I'd go for the Dacia.

I took a spin in one aswell.Well impressed.Decent spec,nice ride,great boot space.
These things are going to sell like hot cakes.

For 15k and/or 149 a month you cant really go wrong.The big boys are going to have to rethink their pricing next year I think.I mean who`d buy a fiesta/polo/clio etc when they can get one of these for this price.

I know Im seriously considering one.

air · 25-08-2012 05:41PM

The fuel economy of the 4wd one is pretty outstanding also, not many 4wd vehicles in Band B.

colm_mcm · 25-08-2012 11:35PM

Marlow wrote: »

The Mk1 Octavia was based on the Passat chassis. It's first the second generation and onwards that is based on Jetta/Golf chassis. The Superb then was launched on Passat chassis.

/M

Nah. The passat has longditudinal engines. Mk1 Octavia was built on the same platform as the jetta/Toledo/Leon/golf etc etc

I stand over what I said, it was not a direct rival to the likes of passat, carina e, mondeo etc. it was in the same segment as the corolla, escort, Astra, brava/marea, 323, 306, Xsara. It had a huge boot, which has been mentioned here a few times which often led people to believe it was passat based. A quick sit into the back seat confirms that it's golf based.

delthedriver · 28-08-2012 11:11PM

delthedriver wrote: »

Many thanks ,
Yes Dennehys the Renault Dealer.

Saw the car in the flesh today. Must say very impressed. Initially I was curious as a car enthusiast. It will do everything it says on the tin.
Seriously considering getting one as replacement for second car and one for daughter at college.
From a safety point of view I prefer the size of the Duster to the Clio .with the 3 year warranty ,it will provide worry free cheap motoring.
Many thanks to the Ops for feedback ,it has helped greatly .
Sincerely

Leonard Hofstadter · 29-08-2012 01:08AM

delthedriver wrote: »

From a safety point of view I prefer the size of the Duster to the Clio.

The Clio got five stars, the Duster got three stars in the safety test. And that's before we get to the fact that there is a new Clio on the way in time for 2013.

As well as its very poor passive safety, it also does not come with ESP as standard - unforgiveable in this day and age, especially when the parent company is Renault and they have been selling their cars on their excellent safety for many many years now.

I thought (and hoped) that the Volvo 940 vs Renault Modus test done by Fifth Gear would have been enough to convince people that size doesn't always matter. Clearly I was wrong on that.

colm_mcm · 29-08-2012 07:49AM

We need to bear in mind that a car tested in 2006 that got 5 stars would not get 5 stars if tested today.

Lex Luthor · 29-08-2012 08:15AM

saw one yesterday (left hooker with Luxembourg plates) driving around Naas.
Fairly bland looking but for 15k I suppose its cheap motoring

Padraig Mor · 29-08-2012 11:16AM

captainspeed wrote: »

As well as its very poor passive safety, it also does not come with ESP as standard - unforgiveable in this day and age, .

The Duster's main competitors (Qashqai and Yeti) do not offer ESP as standard either. You can get ESP on the Duster if you get the 4x4. (In the UK, you can get it as a separate option on the lower models, but not here).

BrianD3 · 29-08-2012 11:53AM

Re: safety the new Clio (which hasn't been launched yet) has been tested by EuroNCAP and the results were published today. 5 stars but not quite as good as the new Volvo V40 and new Audi A3.

http://www.euroncap.com/Content-Web-Article/0258fffa-9477-4b83-b3a7-2a984c50a5ea/when-innovation-and-a-world-first-brings-higher-ve.aspx

delthedriver · 06-09-2012 01:05AM

delthedriver wrote: »

Saw the car in the flesh today. Must say very impressed. Initially I was curious as a car enthusiast. It will do everything it says on the tin.
Seriously considering getting one as replacement for second car and one for daughter at college.
From a safety point of view I prefer the size of the Duster to the Clio .with the 3 year warranty ,it will provide worry free cheap motoring.
Many thanks to the Ops for feedback ,it has helped greatly .
Sincerely

Update, order placed for 2 cars , delivery January 2013 . Very pleased with deal

Cantona's Collars · 07-09-2012 08:54PM

delthedriver wrote: »

Update, order placed for 2 cars , delivery January 2013 . Very pleased with deal

Probably got the 2 of them for less than the price of a RAV 4. You can't argue with that.

zinzan · 08-09-2012 10:01AM

delthedriver wrote: »

Update, order placed for 2 cars , delivery January 2013 . Very pleased with deal

Which models did you go for?

Nissan doctor · 08-09-2012 10:09AM

One of the lads in work just ordered one for his wife. They have an 07 cashcow and where going to upgrade for the new year. I showed them the duster and they have now ordered a brand new car with the same mechanicals as the Nissan for less then the upgrade price would have been with Nissan.

Cantona's Collars · 08-09-2012 10:27AM

They'll be on display at the National Ploughing Championships this year for anyone heading there.
I can bet we'll see a lot of farmers investing in them considering the prices of the alternatives.

vectra · 08-09-2012 11:00AM

Hellrazer wrote: »

I took a spin in one aswell.Well impressed.Decent spec,nice ride,great boot space.
These things are going to sell like hot cakes.

For 15k and/or 149 a month you cant really go wrong.The big boys are going to have to rethink their pricing next year I think.I mean who`d buy a fiesta/polo/clio etc when they can get one of these for this price.

I know Im seriously considering one.

How will they hold their resale value?
What would one be worth after say 2 years?

Hoffmans · 08-09-2012 11:13AM

vectra wrote: »

How will they hold their resale value?
What would one be worth after say 2 years?

about 5 grand

MidlandsM · 08-09-2012 11:16AM

Hellrazer wrote: »

I took a spin in one aswell.Well impressed.Decent spec,nice ride,great boot space.
These things are going to sell like hot cakes.

For 15k and/or 149 a month you cant really go wrong.The big boys are going to have to rethink their pricing next year I think.I mean who`d buy a fiesta/polo/clio etc when they can get one of these for this price.

I know Im seriously considering one.

The contract hire deal is in no way particularly attractive when you get into it...and do the sums.

In reality you are putting €11,200 cash deposit (deposit and balloon) and you would be lucky (very lucky)to get half that back when its 3 years old.

over 11k cash for a yoke with no air con, cloth,2wd,steel wheels,non metallic paint,no spare wheel, rear drum brakes....a lot of outlay for a paddy spec.

And you can't even order one with leathers.....if you wanted too, i'm told they're not importing them for PADDY!:rolleyes:

the finance is a sham of a deal, think long and hard and think again if you think one of them is a bargain now?

copacetic · 08-09-2012 01:40PM

MidlandsM wrote: »

The contract hire deal is in no way particularly attractive when you get into it...and do the sums.

In reality you are putting €11,200 cash deposit (deposit and balloon) and you would be lucky (very lucky)to get half that back when its 3 years old.

over 11k cash for a yoke with no air con, cloth,2wd,steel wheels,non metallic paint,no spare wheel, rear drum brakes....a lot of outlay for a paddy spec.

And you can't even order one with leathers.....if you wanted too, i'm told they're not importing them for PADDY!:rolleyes:

the finance is a sham of a deal, think long and hard and think again if you think one of them is a bargain now?

How can you count the 6k baloon payment in 3 years as a cash deposit? The deposit is the deposit denoting else, have you never seen a car finance deal before?

According to Irish times the deal is

But the essential fact of the price, and of Dacia Ireland’s introductory offer that will allow you to finance one for €149 a month (including a €4,000 deposit and a €6,000 final ‘bubble’ payment), is undoubtedly true.

Looks to be aimed at someone trading in a 4k car, they pay 149 a month and then in 3 years can either hand car back and walk away or pay the 6k to keep it.
How you worked out that is in no way attractive I'll never know, by all accounts it's been very attractive to loads of people already.

As Dacia are giving you a GMFV of 6k after 3 years, which is normally lower than actual value, they will be worth 8/9k after 2 years.

Anyone who thinks a largish 2 year old car with a 3 year warranty left will only be worth 5k is nuts tbh.

Jellicoe · 08-09-2012 02:18PM

A 2 year old clio diesel will set you back approx. 10k, I can't see a 2 year old duster with average miles making much less.

kippy · 08-09-2012 02:22PM

Isn't the value of a second hand car often determined by demand as well as build quality?

I'm not getting the obsession with the "but what will it be worth in two years posts" to be honest. It'll drop a lot less in value than the competitors and personally, I keep a car for 5 years of more.
Demand and reliability will determine a lot about resale value.

08-09-2012 02:22PM

Jellicoe wrote: »

A 2 year old clio diesel will set you back approx. 10k, I can't see a 2 year old duster with average miles making much less.

.... Indeed, sure skodas hold their value well too.

Jellicoe · 08-09-2012 02:32PM

Personally I hope they sell a shed loads of these Dusters in Ireland, at these prices some folks could afford to change for a new car every few years, leaving some nice second hand options for the rest of us. 10k for a 2 year diesel duster with say 40k miles, and 3 years left on the warranty would worth a shot.

vectra · 08-09-2012 03:43PM

kippy wrote: »

Isn't the value of a second hand car often determined by demand as well as build quality?

I'm not getting the obsession with the "but what will it be worth in two years posts" to be honest. It'll drop a lot less in value than the competitors and personally, I keep a car for 5 years of more.
Demand and reliability will determine a lot about resale value.

Demand will totally be based on reliability though.
If they are not reliable they wont be in demand.
If they are not in demand they will be worth peanuts.
I have a valid reason for asking the 2 year old value question.

RoverJames wrote: »

.... Indeed, sure skodas hold their value well too.

You are right
They hold it a lot better than the likes of Rovers.:D

08-09-2012 04:39PM

vectra wrote: »

..........

You are right
They hold it a lot better than the likes of Rovers.:D

I was stating a fact

I wasn't implying or suggesting anything.

As I paid €2250 for an 8 year old ZT I am well aware of Rovers residuals.

I don't see why you felt the need to bring a manufacturer who ceased operating in 2005 into the thread.

BdaraB · 08-09-2012 05:56PM

http://www.autoevolution.com/news/dacia-sandero-places-seventh-in-adac-reliability-survey-34957.html

Reliability seems about average in most surveys I came across for the other Dacia's, I can't really see it being an issue for most people. I'm going to guess that they will hold their value well enough just look at the likes of the qashqai and how they hold theres.

vectra · 08-09-2012 07:33PM

RoverJames wrote: »

I was stating a fact
I wasn't implying or suggesting anything.

As I paid €2250 for an 8 year old ZT I am well aware of Rovers residuals.

I don't see why you felt the need to bring a manufacturer who ceased operating in 2005 into the thread.

Probably for a similar reason you chose Skoda out of the many manufacturers out there.

Back on topic.
I would not touch one of those Dacias until they are at least one year here.

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