Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 12/13 MOD POST #232

04-09-2012 10:10PM

tayto lover wrote: »

He did make a good run for our first goal taking defenders with him and allowing Carzola to set up Podolski.
He has been finding good positions too and I think his first goal will be the decisive one to start him off. I think he looks the part and it's all about getting the confidence levels up now.

Liverpool were ridiculously sparse in their defending, completely different to Stoke/Sunderland. He made the odd good run or two in those games but not enough to win many games unless he starts converting 1 in 2 chances which would make him the best player in the world.

HazDanz · 04-09-2012 10:14PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Liverpool were ridiculously sparse in their defending, completely different to Stoke/Sunderland. He made the odd good run or two in those games but not enough to win many games unless he starts converting 1 in 2 chances which would make him the best player in the world.

He's movement was excellent throughout the match Sunday. What he's crying out for is runners off the ball from midfield when he gets it down up front, he seemed frustrated once or twice on Sunday as no one was there to help out when he managed to win the aerial balls. The quality of ball on Sunday from crosses was pretty poor as well and he's a player that needs a decent cross to flourish. Improve our crossing and the goals will come for Giroud.

DenMan · 04-09-2012 10:26PM

Brilliant analysis from Adrian Clarke regarding last Sunday's game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGzbzytCrek&feature=share

ugsparky · 04-09-2012 11:51PM

I like the look of Giroud. He seems to me to be a cross between Adebayor & Smudger - a tall guy who works tirelessly. We need to start getting decent crosses into him (Sagna can do this) and he needs someone playing off him to give him a return ball after he lays it off. Some of his off ball movement was excellent - his defensive headers from corners were also very good. He looks a bit short of pace at the moment - not surprising coming from the Ligue 1 but in a few more weeks the midfielders and wingers will be more used to his movement and pace - he got only long ball service on Sunday. He's missed two reasonable chances which the media will delight in playing up as chances RvP would put away ... but had the chip against Stoke come off we'd be saying how brilliant he was. It'll happen for him.

blingrhino · 05-09-2012 07:10AM

DenMan wrote: »

Brilliant analysis from Adrian Clarke regarding last Sunday's game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGzbzytCrek&feature=share

Can't help thinking that diaby looks so much like viera as he spreads the ball

wandatowell · 05-09-2012 08:42AM

When a club signs a player you can tell in the first few games if the players has the quality to succeed.

Giroud has that quality I've no doubt. Sure it took RVP 7 years to start banging them in consistantly

05-09-2012 10:57AM

Ian Wright, Dennis Bergkamp and Thierry Henry all scored their first goal for the club against Southampton

It has to happen :cool:

Mickeroo · 05-09-2012 11:18AM

HazDanz wrote: »

He's movement was excellent throughout the match Sunday. What he's crying out for is runners off the ball from midfield when he gets it down up front, he seemed frustrated once or twice on Sunday as no one was there to help out when he managed to win the aerial balls. The quality of ball on Sunday from crosses was pretty poor as well and he's a player that needs a decent cross to flourish. Improve our crossing and the goals will come for Giroud.

I think that's the nail on the head there, our crossing isn't good enough for a player like Giroud at the moment. It didn't help chamakh either tbh. I think most of the service is going to come through the centre from the silky passing of Cazorla & arteta, hopefully he can adapt.

Maybe playing Podolski in the hole and hhaving him support Giroud's holding up of the ball a bit more could be the answer.

emergingstar · 05-09-2012 12:38PM

I dont think we need crosses for giroud I don't think he scores many headers, only one or two last season

Open to correction here

AnCapaillMor · 05-09-2012 12:58PM

Actually he's meant to be pretty strong in the air. As for our crossing, we haven't really used it over the past few years, adebayor was the last time i remember actively putting in crosses on a regular basis.

Soups123 · 05-09-2012 01:02PM

emergingstar wrote: »

I dont think we need crosses for giroud I don't think he scores many headers, only one or two last season

Open to correction here

We didnt have this **** with our last striker he just scored when he wanted

05-09-2012 01:07PM

emergingstar wrote: »

I dont think we need crosses for giroud I don't think he scores many headers, only one or two last season

Open to correction here

He scored plenty of headers for Montpellier.
I agree with playing Podolski alongside or just off him.

emergingstar · 05-09-2012 01:14PM

Bam Bam Mickey wrote: »

emergingstar wrote: »

I dont think we need crosses for giroud I don't think he scores many headers, only one or two last season

Open to correction here

He scored plenty of headers for Montpellier.
I agree with playing Podolski alongside or just off him.

Did he though last season?? I thought I read it was something like one or two is all

05-09-2012 01:20PM

emergingstar wrote: »

Did he though last season?? I thought I read it was something like one or two is all

Ah right, no probably not many.
But he isn't suited to playing the lone role IMO, he likes people to play off him and around him.

emergingstar · 05-09-2012 01:35PM

Bam Bam Mickey wrote: »

emergingstar wrote: »

Did he though last season?? I thought I read it was something like one or two is all

Ah right, no probably not many.
But he isn't suited to playing the lone role IMO, he likes people to play off him and around him.

I think Ramsey will thrive off him, he is our only midfielder that makes runs past the striker

05-09-2012 01:39PM

emergingstar wrote: »

I think Ramsey will thrive off him, he is our only midfielder that makes runs past the striker

Diaby also recently said don't expect him to be a replacement for Song, he considers himself more attack minded, but Ramsey certainly has better attributes to do it, as does Cazorla.
It's going to be hard to second guess Wengers tactics this season.

Galvasean · 05-09-2012 03:19PM

Commentators often mistake Diaby for a DM because he's big, black and French. He's not Paddy V!

Redzer7 · 05-09-2012 03:46PM

Galvasean wrote: »

Commentators often mistake Diaby for a DM because he's big, black and French. He's not Paddy V!

This is too true! Diaby is a beast when he plays (most of the time)!
Just hope he doesn't use us as a stepping stone to move to a bigger club after us sticking by him through his injuries. If he stays fit he will rip teams apart.

05-09-2012 03:50PM

Redzer7 wrote: »

This is too true! Diaby is a beast when he plays (most of the time)!
Just hope he doesn't use us as a stepping stone to move to a bigger club after us sticking by him through his injuries. If he stays fit he will rip teams apart.

Well he has a chance to be starting in the first team regularly from now on, not sure if that would be good or bad in being a factor in that happening.:(

meriwether · 05-09-2012 05:07PM

I expect Arteta to be the predominant DM from now on.

His main attribute for this is that he's intelligent.

He can do the job, so he will.

Arteta as DM, with Diaby as the box to box, and Cazorla the free role/second striker/midfield schemer.

I also think that Rosicky could do the job as DM if and when required - again, he's intelligent.

Mickeroo · 05-09-2012 05:25PM

The guy who writes Arseblog is doing an Ask Me Anything on reddit today if anyone is bothered: http://www.reddit.com/r/Gunners/comments/ze2qp/hello_i_am_arseblog_writer_of_erm_arseblog/

HazDanz · 05-09-2012 06:09PM

Mickeroo wrote: »

The guy who writes Arseblog is doing an Ask Me Anything on reddit today if anyone is bothered: http://www.reddit.com/r/Gunners/comments/ze2qp/hello_i_am_arseblog_writer_of_erm_arseblog/

The Shawcross song is excellent.

http://arseblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/shawcross.mp3

bad2dabone · 05-09-2012 06:25PM

@afcamden writes about Wilshere's return
http://sulia.com/channel/arsenal-fc/f/9cc5fe9d-b5a1-4eb6-9c9d-e2590c2f45bb/?source=twitter

Jack Wilshere; the long awaited return
Arsenal's new no.10 is closing in on a comeback, and it can't come soon enough for player, club and fans.

Jack Wilshere has been making sensational progress recently and is penned in for a return to full training in two weeks time. He's undergone a stringent running regime in the last month to get him back to fitness but also test his agility and range of movement; he's passed with flying colours and most importantly, no ill-effect.

This week Wilshere has continued his running and should progress on to ball work over the next few days. Club physios have assessed and tested his ankle & knee, and are "delighted with it". Big 10 days ahead for Jack as he makes the transition from rehabilitation-to light training-to full-training and "he's coming along nicely". The lack of activity for a midfielder in the market reinforces the confidence the club have in Jack's return, which is getting ever closer.

The boy who I used to call "The English Messi" when watching him play on the wing for Arsenal reserves and youth at Underhill, is a credit to our football club. Often first in and last out of the training ground despite his terrible luck with injuries, Jack has handled himself superbly and shown the drive that a future captain of our football club needs.

I think I speak for all when I say I can't wait to hear the roar that goes up when he steps onto the glorious green carpet at the Grove...

I'm excited about our midfield to say the least!

Maire2009 · 05-09-2012 07:27PM

bad2dabone wrote: »

@afcamden writes about Wilshere's return
http://sulia.com/channel/arsenal-fc/f/9cc5fe9d-b5a1-4eb6-9c9d-e2590c2f45bb/?source=twitter

I'm excited about our midfield to say the least!

Carzola, Arteta, Wilshere, Rosicky, Diaby, Ramsey - not too shabby at all if we can keep them all fit

gnfnrhead · 05-09-2012 08:04PM

Maire2009 wrote: »

Carzola, Arteta, Wilshere, Rosicky, Diaby, Ramsey - not too shabby at all if we can keep them all fit

Some head ache for Wenger if we can!

Maire2009 · 05-09-2012 08:20PM

gnfnrhead wrote: »

Some head ache for Wenger if we can!

I know its early days but I really feel we can push for a cup win this year and be nearer the top of the table points wise than last year.

Podolski and Cazorla didn't come to just get into the Champions League.

Sergio · 05-09-2012 08:45PM

Lads im not getting carried away but i think if we maintain our new solid back 4 and stop leaking stupid goals then we could be the dark horse for the season. Granted man utd got our star player but i dont think utds midfield is up to much and i think ours is better at the moment with the players available in our squad.

05-09-2012 08:49PM

We've a better chance at the Champions League than the Premier League I'd guess.

Maire2009 · 05-09-2012 09:02PM

Deleted User wrote: »

We've a better chance at the Champions League than the Premier League I'd guess.

Yeah, I'd say a cup is our best bet.

emergingstar · 05-09-2012 09:13PM

All over twitter diabys personal trainer is critising arsenal medical team saying hoe shambloic they are
This is not the first story bout them must be some truth to them

Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 12/13 MOD POST #232

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