Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 12/13 MOD POST #232

Mickeroo · 04-09-2012 11:46AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Amazing how a win quietens this place down! 1 post in the past 16 hours!

****ty international break coming up too so no match to talk about. I hate that they have one so early every season before I've gotten enough of my premier league fix.

04-09-2012 11:55AM

I was away at the picnic for the weekend, saw the goals but would love to see the full match highlights. Seems like Diaby was a revelation.

Also, 3 clean sheets in a row! Defence, Mannone or a mixture of both? Anyone when Szczesny's back?

04-09-2012 12:16PM

Mixture of both.
Mannone was good!
But having such a well organised defence helped him i'm sure.

Scezney failed fitness tests over a rib injury, so he's not far away at all.

tayto lover · 04-09-2012 12:21PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I was away at the picnic for the weekend, saw the goals but would love to see the full match highlights. Seems like Diaby was a revelation.

Also, 3 clean sheets in a row! Defence, Mannone or a mixture of both? Anyone when Szczesny's back?

Good performance by the team as a whole.
I watched the whole game again last night. We did make a lot of defensive mistakes in the first half by giving the ball away in bad areas. Better teams than Liverpool would exploit those passing errors so we cannot relax and must continue to improve even more.
I'm a stickler for perfection.

meriwether · 04-09-2012 01:11PM

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Amazing how a win quietens this place down! 1 post in the past 16 hours!

We're all content.

Some of us (me included) are dwelling on the thought that Arsene knows a lot more than we do (specific reference: Transfer day and no new signings).

Drexel · 04-09-2012 01:11PM

tayto lover wrote: »

Good performance by the team as a whole.
I watched the whole game again last night. We did make a lot of defensive mistakes in the first half by giving the ball away in bad areas. Better teams than Liverpool would exploit those passing errors so we cannot relax and must continue to improve even more.
I'm a stickler for perfection.

Jenkinson seemed nervous in the first half and made a few errors but I thought he was brilliant in the 2nd. Didnt put a foot wrong.

meriwether · 04-09-2012 01:12PM

BTW, the notion that Liverpool would be reduced to signing Heskey or Owen on loan is hilarious.

Roger Sterling · 04-09-2012 01:13PM

jonny666 wrote: »

Jenkinson seemed nervous in the first half and made a few errors but I thought he was brilliant in the 2nd. Didnt put a foot wrong.

He was class. Made of a mockery of the pre match predictions I saw from some quarters suggesting Sterling would tear him a new one.

meriwether · 04-09-2012 01:21PM

jonny666 wrote: »

Jenkinson seemed nervous in the first half and made a few errors but I thought he was brilliant in the 2nd. Didnt put a foot wrong.

He's our 20 year old back up RB.

For that profile, he's doing brilliantly, and we have to be happy with our back up.

Drexel · 04-09-2012 01:26PM

meriwether wrote: »

He's our 20 year old back up RB.

For that profile, he's doing brilliantly, and we have to be happy with our back up.

Oh im not slating him. I think he has done very well. Im happy him as second choice.

gnfnrhead · 04-09-2012 01:32PM

I admit I questioned Jenkinson in preseason but he has proved me wrong. He's hardly put a foot wrong this season.

greendom · 04-09-2012 02:26PM

He's looking a lot more assured on the ball than he was last season. Be nice to get a decent cross in every now again.

G1032 · 04-09-2012 02:54PM

jonny666 wrote: »

tayto lover wrote: »

Good performance by the team as a whole.
I watched the whole game again last night. We did make a lot of defensive mistakes in the first half by giving the ball away in bad areas. Better teams than Liverpool would exploit those passing errors so we cannot relax and must continue to improve even more.
I'm a stickler for perfection.

Jenkinson seemed nervous in the first half and made a few errors but I thought he was brilliant in the 2nd. Didnt put a foot wrong.

He did put some passes badly astray. Could have landed us in deep trouble early on. Once he settled though he did very well.

SlickRic · 04-09-2012 03:15PM

Roger Sterling wrote: »

He was class. Made of a mockery of the pre match predictions I saw from some quarters suggesting Sterling would tear him a new one.

he was scared shítless in the first half, but regained his composure after the break because Arsenal had such control of the game.

one thing Jenkinson has is pace, so he handles one-on-ones pretty well alright. he might struggle against a more experienced winger than Sterling. what he'll have to learn is to be better positionally, and have a bit more composure on the ball. he still looks nervous as hell at times.

Liverpool never got in positions to really test him positionally, which from what i've seen is the weak point in his game right now. Arsenal controlled the game that well that it was comfortable.

but he's been a fine stop gap at RB from what i've seen.

04-09-2012 03:18PM

Of course he would be nervous, he is stepping into rather talented shoes in Sagna.
It's not only defending he would be expected to do afterall.

04-09-2012 03:46PM

Jenkinson is always nervous-looking, I think the lankiness doesn't help. :pac:

dfbemt · 04-09-2012 04:09PM

meriwether wrote: »

BTW, the notion that Liverpool would be reduced to signing Heskey or Owen on loan is hilarious.

Is Michael Owen a free agent now?

Thought I saw his name mentioned at the end of MOTD2 on Sun night.

So somebody that nobody wants will end up at a mighty club like Liverpool?!? Now we have our problems but we're not that bad.......

Redzer7 · 04-09-2012 04:35PM

I rate him tbh I think he's a decent player.

I find it mad that he could hardly get his game for Charlton or the other 2 teams he went on loan to and then just slots in at Arsenal :pac:.

Footballs a funny game

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tayto lover · 04-09-2012 05:04PM

dfbemt wrote: »

Is Michael Owen a free agent now?

Thought I saw his name mentioned at the end of MOTD2 on Sun night.

So somebody that nobody wants will end up at a mighty club like Liverpool?!? Now we have our problems but we're not that bad.......

Liverpool could do with a player like Drogba who is unsettled in Japan as the season does not start till Jan and he is eager to play games.. Drogba is good on the ground as well as in the air and would be a big asset to Liverpool if they could get him till Jan on loan. He would bring on players like Sterling too. Remember what Robbie Keane did for Villa last season.

amiable · 04-09-2012 05:11PM

tayto lover wrote: »

Liverpool could do with a player like Drogba who is unsettled in Japan as the season does not start till Jan and he is eager to play games.. Drogba is good on the ground as well as in the air and would be a big asset to Liverpool if they could get him till Jan on loan. He would bring on players like Sterling too. Remember what Robbie Keane did for Villa last season.

China

Redzer7 · 04-09-2012 05:13PM

tayto lover wrote: »

Liverpool could do with a player like Drogba who is unsettled in China as the season does not start till Jan and he is eager to play games.. Drogba is good on the ground as well as in the air and would be a big asset to Liverpool if they could get him till Jan on loan. He would bring on players like Sterling too. Remember what Robbie Keane did for Villa last season.

FYP

anyways he can't play here till Jan because he wasn't a free transfer when the window shut.

amiable · 04-09-2012 05:14PM

Redzer7 wrote: »

FYP anyways he can't play here till Jan because he wasn't a free transfer when the window shut.

I don't think that is true. It's irrelevant now as 25 man squads had to be submitted today to the Premier League

G1032 · 04-09-2012 05:16PM

SlickRic wrote: »

Roger Sterling wrote: »

He was class. Made of a mockery of the pre match predictions I saw from some quarters suggesting Sterling would tear him a new one.

he was scared shítless in the first half, but regained his composure after the break because Arsenal had such control of the game.

one thing Jenkinson has is pace, so he handles one-on-ones pretty well alright. he might struggle against a more experienced winger than Sterling. what he'll have to learn is to be better positionally, and have a bit more composure on the ball. he still looks nervous as hell at times.

Liverpool never got in positions to really test him positionally, which from what i've seen is the weak point in his game right now. Arsenal controlled the game that well that it was comfortable.

but he's been a fine stop gap at RB from what i've seen.

Yep. He has no composure on the ball at all. It will cost Arsenal at some stage. Need Sagna back asap. Jenkinson will improve with time but he's just a bit raw for an Arsenal first team yet.

danlen · 04-09-2012 05:35PM

As is commonly said in sports, a lot of the time a team is neither as good or bad as they are made out when they perform extremely well/bad.

When we concede goals, the media makes us out to be a shower of disorganised clowns who don't know what we're doing. On the flip side, now that we have kept three clean sheets, our frailities have been solved and Steve Bould is a defensive mastermind capable of changing a team within months.

The same can be said for players too.

Jenkinson, Diaby, and Gervinho are particular examples of this.

We are not an average side who will do well to scrape into the top 4. But we are neither a side (just yet) of getting more points than Man City over the course of 38 games.

Similarly, Jenkinson is not an out-of-his-depth stop gap measure. But he can't be expected to have the same consistency of someone more experienced either. He is decent youngster who has potential.

Galvasean · 04-09-2012 09:01PM

danlen wrote: »

As is commonly said in sports, a lot of the time a team is neither as good or bad as they are made out when they perform extremely well/bad.

When we concede goals, the media makes us out to be a shower of disorganised clowns who don't know what we're doing. On the flip side, now that we have kept three clean sheets, our frailities have been solved and Steve Bould is a defensive mastermind capable of changing a team within months.

Likewise, after two goalless draws we were a team in crisis who couldn't get goals after selling our big name striker. Now after we beat Liverpool we seem to have passed on the crisis disease on to them and it is they who can't get goals after offloading their big name striker.
Media hyperbole really gives me the sh1ts sometimes.

DenMan · 04-09-2012 09:04PM

dfbemt wrote: »

Is Michael Owen a free agent now?

Thought I saw his name mentioned at the end of MOTD2 on Sun night.

So somebody that nobody wants will end up at a mighty club like Liverpool?!? Now we have our problems but we're not that bad.......

Not anymore. Gone to Stoke on a two year deal supposedly.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19480317

Oranage2 · 04-09-2012 09:23PM

Have to agree, Jenkinson looks very nervous this season but he's ten times the player he was last season.

04-09-2012 09:41PM

Galvasean wrote: »

Likewise, after two goalless draws we were a team in crisis who couldn't get goals after selling our big name striker. Now after we beat Liverpool we seem to have passed on the crisis disease on to them and it is they who can't get goals after offloading their big name striker.
Media hyperbole really gives me the sh1ts sometimes.

I don't think we're ****ed up front and still haven't seen anything to say that we'll be able to break down teams who concede possession. We had less possession against Liverpool than usual and if you look at their midfielders' stats they look as though they did really well but only because we allowed them so much space in their own half. I really, really hope Giroud starts wheeling off players and burying every chance but I've not seen anything to suggest it.

ugsparky · 04-09-2012 09:55PM

International football three weeks into a season sickens my parabolics. Why ? Why not wait til mid season. Have we ever had a season where we haven't suffered key injuries to key players thanks to Internationals ? What chance Diaby, Vermaelen, Kos, Ox or Theo will pick up a knock. Arsene should be more like SAF and rule players out of International duty until they are 100% and only 100% match fit. What's the betting RvP will retire from International football ... like the rest of the SAF players to concentrate on their Utd careers. I just fear that as soon as Rosicky and Jack are back their respective International managers will throw them back into the deep end ... to Arsenal's disadvantage. Hope I'm wrong about this but just as we seem to be gelling ... :mad:

tayto lover · 04-09-2012 09:56PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I don't think we're ****ed up front and still haven't seen anything to say that we'll be able to break down teams who concede possession. We had less possession against Liverpool than usual and if you look at their midfielders' stats they look as though they did really well but only because we allowed them so much space in their own half. I really, really hope Giroud starts wheeling off players and burying every chance but I've not seen anything to suggest it.

He did make a good run for our first goal taking defenders with him and allowing Carzola to set up Podolski.
He has been finding good positions too and I think his first goal will be the decisive one to start him off. I think he looks the part and it's all about getting the confidence levels up now.

Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 12/13 MOD POST #232

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