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Traveller woman beaten to death in Louth.**Mod warning in post 1**

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  • #62
    Grayson
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    Gloomtastic! wrote: »
    Are you serious?

    Normally not.

    But yeah, I know domestic violence exists but I've never heard of a traveller committing an act of violence against a female traveller.


  • #63
    tayto lover
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    Grayson wrote: »
    Normally not.

    But yeah, I know domestic violence exists but I've never heard of a traveller committing an act of violence against a female traveller.

    It happens quite often. They actually believe they have a right to beat their own wives. It's part of their tradition it seems.


  • #64
    [Deleted User]
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    Grayson wrote: »
    Normally not.

    But yeah, I know domestic violence exists but I've never heard of a traveller committing an act of violence against a female traveller.

    With all the mayhem that goes on within said community, do you honestly believe that the lads all return home after and act like 'father of the year'???


  • #65
    Fenian Army
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    Also heard its a domestic.

    Is the husband the lad who bit the guy he was fighting in the documentary?


  • #66
    My name is URL
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    tayto lover wrote: »
    It happens quite often. They actually believe they have a right to beat their own wives. It's part of their tradition it seems.

    It happens quite a lot more in the non-traveller community, but we don't assume that it's our own tradition.


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  • #67
    SocSocPol
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    tayto lover wrote: »
    It happens quite often. They actually believe they have a right to beat their own wives. It's part of their tradition it seems.
    In fairness, domestic violence is a general societal problem.plenty of women, and some men, are granted either protection or barring orders in the courts every month. Their are prescious few adults in this country who do not know someone who either is or has been a victim of domestic violence. their are precious few travellers in our disgracfully underfunded and overcrowded womens refuges.


  • #68
    tayto lover
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    Fenian Army wrote: »
    Also heard its a domestic.

    Is the husband the lad who bit the guy he was fighting in the documentary?

    I believe so. That's what their saying.


  • #69
    tayto lover
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    SocSocPol wrote: »
    In fairness, domestic violence is a general societal problem.plenty of women, and some men, are granted either protection or barring orders in the courts every month. Their are prescious few adults in this country who do not know someone who either is or has been a victim of domestic violence. their are precious few travellers in our disgracfully underfunded and overcrowded womens refuges.

    Totally agree. But it is seemingly allowed in their tradition. They don't leave and they don't make complaints to the Garda.


  • #70
    JP Liz V1
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    RIP to the poor woman, whomever did it I hope they lock him away for a long time but knowing the Irish justice system probably wont be long

    I think one of the children found her if that is true god love them


  • #71
    My name is URL
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    tayto lover wrote: »
    Totally agree. But it is seemingly allowed in their tradition. They don't leave and they don't make complaints to the Garda.

    Ah here. Do you know anything about domestic abuse? The majority of victims don't leave or make complaints to the Gardai. A thousand spouses and partners will be beaten by their OH's tonight in Ireland and you'd be lucky if 1% of them faced the consequences of the law for it.


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  • #72
    louthguy25
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    According to the local newspaper feed in Dundalk Mr McDonagh has handed himself into the gaurds. Very sad case


  • #73
    le la rat
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    Super-Rush wrote: »
    Source.


    Mod warning: Any form of traveller bashing
    bad choice of words given the circumstances imo


  • #74
    smash
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    louthguy25 wrote: »
    According to the local newspaper feed in Dundalk Mr McDonagh has handed himself into the gaurds. Very sad case
    got a link?


  • #75
    louthguy25
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 164 ✭✭louthguy25


    http://www.facebook.com/dundalk.examiner Thats all i have so far


  • #76
    dharma200
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    Those poor children. :(

    Doesnt matter which community the poor woman comes from. She has been beaten to death by her partner. Has happened to many many non traveller women.


  • #77
    dharma200
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    Those poor children. :(

    Doesnt matter which community the poor woman comes from. She has been beaten to death by her partner. Has happened to many many non traveller women.


  • #78
    The_Kew_Tour
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    this is sad story all round.

    EVENFLOW



  • #79
    smash
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    louthguy25 wrote: »
    http://www.facebook.com/dundalk.examiner Thats all i have so far
    So they posted that 2 hours ago, but RTE etc don't have that info... yea, seems legit!


  • #80
    Dangerous Man
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    The_Minister wrote: »
    Anyone else noticing how few thanks the sympathy posts are getting in comparison to normal threads?

    I suppose it's because people generally don't like travellers. What's your take?


  • #81
    louthguy25
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    smash wrote: »
    So they posted that 2 hours ago, but RTE etc don't have that info... yea, seems legit!

    RTE are terribly slow to update things, this is a local paper im not saying 100% they are right but why would a local paper risk accusing someone in the wrong


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  • #82
    tayto lover
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    My name is URL wrote: »
    Ah here. Do you know anything about domestic abuse? The majority of victims don't leave or make complaints to the Gardai. A thousand spouses and partners will be beaten by their OH's tonight in Ireland and you'd be lucky if 1% of them faced the consequences of the law for it.

    I know quite a lot about it actually.
    While many settled people do make complaints there are very few if any travellers who do likewise.


  • #83
    smash
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    louthguy25 wrote: »
    RTE are terribly slow to update things, this is a local paper im not saying 100% they are right but why would a local paper risk accusing someone in the wrong
    There's no other news site or radio that has stated that he handed himself in.


  • #84
    dxhound2005
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    louthguy25 wrote: »
    RTE are terribly slow to update things, this is a local paper im not saying 100% they are right but why would a local paper risk accusing someone in the wrong

    It is not a newspaper.


  • #85
    meoklmrk91
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    This is a terribly sad case regardless of who done it, a young mother beaten to death in her own home, 3 kids left with out their mammy. RIP.


  • #86
    louthguy25
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    dxhound2005 wrote: »
    It is not a newspaper.

    The examiner is not a newpaper ?? What would you call it then?


  • #87
    tayto lover
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    louthguy25 wrote: »
    The examiner is not a newpaper ?? What would you call it then?

    I have never even heard of it and I live there.


  • #88
    smash
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    tayto lover wrote: »
    I have never even heard of it and I live there.
    Their website doesn't seem to work either.


  • #89
    Annasopra
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    tayto lover wrote: »
    I know quite a lot about it actually.
    While many settled people do make complaints there are very few if any travellers who do likewise.

    That doesn't make it a traveller tradition and saying it's a tradition is a disgusting thing to say

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • #90
    dxhound2005
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    louthguy25 wrote: »
    The examiner is not a newpaper ?? What would you call it then?

    I dont know. Other people have been asking the same question.

    The "Dundalk Examiner" may not exist as an established newspaper, instead it may be a a hoax, a sting or disinformation. A person in Dundalk, Ireland has searched newspaper outlets throughout the town for a copy of the "paper" and has not been able to find one. Confirmation of the existence of the paper is invited; send to


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  • #91
    Gloomtastic!
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    SocSocPol wrote: »
    their are precious few travellers in our disgracfully underfunded and overcrowded womens refuges.

    I volunteer at a local women's refuge a couple of times a year and there are always traveller women there.

    In the travelling community the beaten women are shunned by their friends/family. Something to do with their culture. The only place they can go is the refuges.


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