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Liverpool FC Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2012/13

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  • #4472
    tap28
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭tap28


    I think suarez is a fantastic player but he is so wasteful in front of goal. So frustrating


  • #4473
    ~Rebel~
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,145 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    I'm going to reserve judgement until Friday night on this deal.

    If this allows us to bring in a better striker who will play first team football, then i'm ok with it. If we're stuck with what we have up front now, then I'm against it.

    I'd feel a hell of a lot better if this deal had the enforced buy clause if they stay up though.

    As for those saying about him coming back with a lower value, I don't get this argument. He's had 18 months of depreciating at Liverpool, what difference if he devalues further somewhere else? At least now he will have the opportunity to raise his value rather than, at best, stagnate, at Liverpool.

    Don't know yet if this is the best thing for LFC, but it's definitely the best thing for him - he gets to actually play football.

    (I am, incidentally, very confident he'll score more at West Ham with Big Sam than he would at Liverpool. He suits Sam's football down to the ground.)

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  • #4474
    Knex*
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,475 ✭✭✭✭Knex*


    G.K. wrote: »
    I wouldn't get your hopes up of signing a 'goalscorer' to replace Carroll.

    That's not to say if I were in Rodgers' shoes, I would not buy one, far from it. I would, as most here would, buy someone who can finish. I won't pretend to have seen much of Welliton but the type of player Kess describes him as is what I would be looking for.

    But did Rodgers not say he wanted goals to come from all areas of the strikeforce as opposed to a single forward (I'm paraphrasing here)? I do see the rational side of this - rather than putting your eggs all in one basket and then see the 'goalscorer' crocked. By that token buying say (and this is hypothetical), Dempsey and Walcott over Huntelaar does have its merits.

    Having said that, if you are going by that route, you buy prolific players. Walcott's record isn't bad, but his pace is by far and away his main attribute. You have that threat already in Sterling and Assaidi. It would make much more sense to buy Dries Mertens or someone of his ilk. Someone with a record of scoring a high figure from a wide forward position, not an average one. And there will be those out there

    What would my ultimate preference be? Get rid of Adam and Cole, and get a reliable CF (And Dempsey if possible). But, if Rodgers works by the logic I considered higher up, and I suspect he will, it has to be 2 goalscoring guys. And I wouldn't peg Walcott as one.

    I would be very happy if we signed Mertens tbh, although I think it was Kess who said in mainland Europe Assaidi had an almost bigger reputation than he did.

    I've watched Mertens a few times yet Assaidi was a name that came out of the blue to me when he signed.


  • #4475
    Leiva
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,117 ✭✭✭✭Leiva


    martingriff wrote: »
    He could just becomes a hammers fan

    He has :pac:

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056741845


  • #4476
    cunnifferous
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭cunnifferous


    With an option to buy is that a set price or if he scores a load next season can we up the price??


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  • #4477
    Chucky the tree
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,320 ✭✭✭✭Chucky the tree


    rarnes1 wrote: »
    Liverpool couldn't score goals last season and are already struggling this season.

    If he doesn't sign a goalscorer it may well cost him his job.



    And Andy Carroll wouldn't have made any difference.


  • #4478
    Leiva
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,117 ✭✭✭✭Leiva


    .
    @TonyBarretTimes: West Ham's option to buy Carroll requires the agreement of all three parties (player and both clubs) in order to come into effect.


  • #4479
    cunnifferous
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭cunnifferous


    Leiva wrote: »
    .
    @TonyBarretTimes: West Ham's option to buy Carroll requires the agreement of all three parties (player and both clubs) in order to come into effect.
    Stating the obvious surely?


  • #4480
    taidghbaby
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,746 ✭✭✭taidghbaby


    Carroll was poor last year with a manager who wanted him....Doubt he would be any better this year with a manager who didn't want him!


  • #4481
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 45,738 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Chucky the tree wrote: »
    And Andy Carroll wouldn't have made any difference.

    Time will tell.

    This game tonight highlights our issues up front. I really hope something is in the pipeline


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  • #4482
    djPSB
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,299 ✭✭✭djPSB


    Sturridge the man lined up to replace Carroll according to Sky Sports.


  • #4483
    Knex*
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,475 ✭✭✭✭Knex*


    cunnifferous wrote: »
    Stating the obvious surely?

    Usually its only the buying club and the player once the loan has been agreed.

    At least we have the option to reject it next summer.


  • #4484
    Leiva
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,117 ✭✭✭✭Leiva


    djPSB wrote: »
    Sturridge the man lined up to replace Carroll according to Sky Sports.

    Fücking better not be


  • #4485
    opr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,267 ✭✭✭opr


    So basically they can bid for the player?

    Edit - Oh Pepe!

    Opr


  • #4486
    G.K.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭G.K.


    Would not be a fan of signing Sturridge.

    Although he does have the redeeming feature of being a direct option, albiet for the wrong reasons. :pac:


  • #4487
    murpho999
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,937 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    Reina at fault again....I'm very worried about him.

    Has not been of standard for at least a year now.


  • #4488
    tap28
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭tap28


    for **** sake :mad:


  • #4489
    Zapp Brannigan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,326 ✭✭✭Zapp Brannigan


    Don't know how I'd feel about Sturridge coming in? As others have said there's much better value to be gotten elsewhere.


  • #4490
    Leiva
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,117 ✭✭✭✭Leiva


    Welcome to Anfiled .
    we gift goals


  • #4491
    Jason Todd
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,326 ✭✭✭Jason Todd


    murpho999 wrote: »
    Reina at fault again....I'm very worried about him.

    Has not been of standard for at least a year now.

    Longer I would say. He surely can't be considered one of the top keepers in the world anymore, too many (costly) mistakes.

    Edit: Finally Suarez!


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  • #4492
    tap28
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭tap28


    Even apart from the mistake, we should have this done and dusted:mad:

    What a finish, great player, never doubted him;)


  • #4493
    cunnifferous
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭cunnifferous


    Knex. wrote: »
    cunnifferous wrote: »
    Stating the obvious surely?

    Usually its only the buying club and the player once the loan has been agreed.

    At least we have the option to reject it next summer.
    That's an odd arrangement. It puts the selling club at a disadvantage does it not? If the player does crap the loan club just says no thanks. If player does well then the fee doesn't change.


  • #4494
    ush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,399 ✭✭✭ush


    We need to talk about Pepe.


  • #4495
    Leiva
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,117 ✭✭✭✭Leiva


    We got West Brom away in the league cup .


  • #4496
    djPSB
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,299 ✭✭✭djPSB


    I thought everyone did okay tonight apart from Reina, Kelly, Morgan and Suarez (apart from the goal, and he picked it up after that).

    We look alot more dangerous when Sterling is in the team. Amazing what a bit of pace does.


  • #4497
    DrumSteve
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    Fairly abysmal game tbh though thought Gerrard/Allen played well; think downing was top notch at left back also.


  • #4498
    PRAF
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,798 ✭✭✭PRAF


    Zapp Brannigan wrote: »
    Don't know how I'd feel about Sturridge coming in? As others have said there's much better value to be gotten elsewhere.

    I'm the opposite. Tonight was another case of poor finishing nearly coming back to haunt us. A very good performance in nearly all respects apart from the finishing. We need a killer up front to score the easy goals


  • #4499
    Fowler87
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,744 ✭✭✭Fowler87


    djPSB wrote: »
    I thought everyone did okay tonight apart from Reina, Kelly, Morgan and Suarez (apart from the goal, and he picked it up after that).

    We look alot more dangerous when Sterling is in the team. Amazing what a bit of pace does.
    Morgan first competitive game, played out of position I thought he did well. Sterling is different class already though


  • #4500
    Chucky the tree
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,320 ✭✭✭✭Chucky the tree


    rarnes1 wrote: »
    Time will tell.

    This game tonight highlights our issues up front. I really hope something is in the pipeline


    His whole time at the club told enough for me.


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  • #4501
    mav79
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,648 ✭✭✭mav79


    After watching Spearing, Adam and Henderson chase players and give away fouls trying to get the ball back all last year its great to see a player like Allen who can read the game so well to be able to intercept a pass or harass a player without giving fouls away. He is calm spot in a hectic midfield, never seems rushed, just like a certain past player.


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