Liverpool FC Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2012/13

cunnifferous · 30-08-2012 06:55PM

whatawaster wrote: »

Good deal if it goes through

Best deal we're gonna get, this season or next. Hope it goes through, and that we're left with enough time to get a decent replacement

opr · 30-08-2012 06:57PM

Gary Jacob (Times Journalist)
Word is that Carroll having medical at West Ham, ahead of a loan deal.

I do wonder is this all a clever rouse to tempt Newcastle into making a proper offer asap.

Opr

mayordenis · 30-08-2012 06:57PM

Melion wrote: »

whatawaster wrote: »

Good deal if it goes through

I disagree, we have been burned enough on loan deals in the past. If West Ham dont stay up, we get Andy back next summer and he is worth a lot less than 17m.

If he scores plenty of goals he may well be worth more

5starpool · 30-08-2012 06:57PM

As expected.

Reina; Kelly, Carragher, Skrtel, Downing; Allen, Henderson, Shelvey; Gerrard, Suarez, Morgan

CL7 · 30-08-2012 06:58PM

Melion wrote: »

I disagree, we have been burned enough on loan deals in the past. If West Ham dont stay up, we get Andy back next summer and he is worth a lot less than 17m.

Yeah but there was no enforced purchase option in those deals. He's worth a lot less than £17m now. He's a £12m player at best. It's a risk worth taking imo.

cunnifferous · 30-08-2012 06:58PM

Melion wrote: »

I disagree, we have been burned enough on loan deals in the past. If West Ham dont stay up, we get Andy back next summer and he is worth a lot less than 17m.

Thing is that I reckon he'll do quite well at West Ham (maybe 10-15 goals), so even if they go down he'll still be worth a fair bit. Definitely worth more than if he sits on our bench for a year.

whatawaster · 30-08-2012 06:58PM

Melion wrote: »

whatawaster wrote: »

Good deal if it goes through

I disagree, we have been burned enough on loan deals in the past. If West Ham dont stay up, we get Andy back next summer and he is worth a lot less than 17m.

If he is any use there we will get 10 for him at least I'd say. We would not get any more for him today. We also make 7 million in the next 12 months through loan fee and wages saved

G.K. · 30-08-2012 06:59PM

Really hope it's Gerrard or Shelvey up top, not Henderson.

anirishlad · 30-08-2012 07:00PM

Llorente would be a brilliant replacement if we could get him, fantastic player not the quickest but is good on the deck and in the air and knows how to finish.

Melion · 30-08-2012 07:00PM

5starpool wrote: »

As expected.

Reina; Kelly, Carragher, Skrtel, Downing; Allen, Henderson, Shelvey; Gerrard, Suarez, Morgan

I like the look of that front 3, Gerrard on the right with Suarez on the left and Morgan through the middle. I can see him scoring tonight.

whatawaster · 30-08-2012 07:01PM

G.K. wrote: »

Really hope it's Gerrard or Shelvey up top, not Henderson.

Id have Henderson sitting and Allen in his best position. Good game to try it in

G.K. · 30-08-2012 07:02PM

Reasonable suggestion. Doubt it'll happen though.

30-08-2012 07:02PM

really looking forward to seeing how Morgan gets on.

Definately the end of Carroll when Morgan is ahead of him

Super-Rush · 30-08-2012 07:03PM

Ben Smith ‏@BenSmithBBC
Liverpool striker Andy Carroll is in London to finalise a season-long loan move to West Ham. No commitment to buy.

Melion · 30-08-2012 07:04PM

Super-Rush wrote: »

Ben Smith ‏@BenSmithBBC
Liverpool striker Andy Carroll is in London to finalise a season-long loan move to West Ham. No commitment to buy.

Fúcking disaster

Gbear · 30-08-2012 07:06PM

Melion wrote: »

Fúcking disaster

We'll have to see what it means in the grand scheme.

Perhaps the yanks said "at the very least get £x off the wage bill and we'll release more money for players".

It's reaching a fair bit though. I can't see how it'll do us good in the long term.

cunnifferous · 30-08-2012 07:06PM

Super-Rush wrote: »

Ben Smith ‏@BenSmithBBC
Liverpool striker Andy Carroll is in London to finalise a season-long loan move to West Ham. No commitment to buy.

Shocking, makes no sense whatsoever. Unless they are paying us an insane loan fee.

super_furry · 30-08-2012 07:06PM

****ing Comolli.

****ing £35million.

opr · 30-08-2012 07:07PM

@TonyBarretTimes - Carroll undergoing medical at West Ham after #LFC accept loan bid

No details mentioned by him yet.

Opr

whatawaster · 30-08-2012 07:08PM

Melion wrote: »

Super-Rush wrote: »

Ben Smith ‏@BenSmithBBC
Liverpool striker Andy Carroll is in London to finalise a season-long loan move to West Ham. No commitment to buy.

Fúcking disaster

If we sign a quality replacement it isn't. I'm sure we wouldn't let him go.without someone lined up

Also Carroll could score 20 goals there this season and his value could rise.

Dont be at yourself · 30-08-2012 07:09PM

Super-Rush wrote: »

Ben Smith ‏@BenSmithBBC
Liverpool striker Andy Carroll is in London to finalise a season-long loan move to West Ham. No commitment to buy.

Hopefully an attempt to get Newcastle to bid...

Melion · 30-08-2012 07:09PM

whatawaster wrote: »

If we sign a quality replacement it isn't. I'm sure we wouldn't let him go.without someone lined up

Also Carroll could score 20 goals there this season and his value could rise.

Thats the positive and not to go too "Lloyd" on it but he could have a terrible season, score 3 goals while West Ham get relegated and he is back to us next May.

skydish79 · 30-08-2012 07:09PM

Super-Rush wrote: »

Ben Smith ‏@BenSmithBBC
Liverpool striker Andy Carroll is in London to finalise a season-long loan move to West Ham. No commitment to buy.

Wonder whats the thinking of loaning him to west ham without the commitment to buy

Were the other options i.e. a permanent to move to newcastle not forthcoming or was the offer too low

Or did Carroll only agree to a year loan away

Mr Alan · 30-08-2012 07:12PM

opr wrote: »

It won't be, the deal that has been offered is supposedly the same as before. £3m loan fee plus wages and a further £17m enforced purchase option if they stay up this season.

Opr

Ben Smith says he's there finalising loan. No commitment to buy.

As predicted, we're being ****ing raped. Virtually everyone agreed earlier in the summer if a scenario like this came to pass it'd be retarded. Let's watch people change their mind now :rolleyes:

Stupid deal unless it sees a genuine top quality player coming in.

whatawaster · 30-08-2012 07:12PM

Melion wrote: »

whatawaster wrote: »

If we sign a quality replacement it isn't. I'm sure we wouldn't let him go.without someone lined up

Also Carroll could score 20 goals there this season and his value could rise.

Thats the positive and not to go too "Lloyd" on it but he could have a terrible season, score 3 goals while West Ham get relegated and he is back to us next May.

True.

but has anyone bid for him outright yet?

cunnifferous · 30-08-2012 07:12PM

skydish79 wrote: »

Wonder whats the thinking of loaning him to west ham without the commitment to buy

Were the other options i.e. a permanent to move to newcastle not forthcoming or was the offer too low

Or did Carroll only agree to a year loan away

Yeah I don't get it. The only stumbling block before was that Carroll didn't want to go to West Ham. If he's changed his mind why would the old deal suddenly change?

Dont be at yourself · 30-08-2012 07:12PM

SSN ticker says it's 'with a view to a permanent move', whatever that means.

Melion · 30-08-2012 07:13PM

whatawaster wrote: »

True.

but has anyone bid for him outright yet?

Id imagine someone at the club is leaking all this to try and entice Newcastle with a money up front bid.

Super-Rush · 30-08-2012 07:13PM

Ben Smith ‏@BenSmithBBC
#WHUFC will cover Carroll's wages - all of them. And #LFC will get a £1m loan fee.

The plot thickens.

Chucky the tree · 30-08-2012 07:13PM

cunnifferous wrote: »

Yeah I don't get it. The only stumbling block before was that Carroll didn't want to go to West Ham. If he's changed his mind why would the old deal suddenly change?

Probably didn't want to go permanently.

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