Liverpool FC Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2012/13

daithijjj wrote: »

The crux of the point is that no person in here imo can honestly say they were focused on balance sheets when those players signed. We need similar type players to come in or we will get nowhere, its that simple. If it doesnt happen you will get a domino effect like you see at Arsenal. Continuous and relentless selling of your best players in their prime.

We also have not spent that amount of money, if we have fair enough, i will go and make apologies for Ronnie Whelan, he gets slaughtered for stuff like that when he says Benitez spent 220m or whatever. We sold 75m worth of player plus alot of wages under Kenny also.

This summer we have got rid of 15m in annual wages and brought in around 8m to be paid. 3.6m of that 8m is 'hired staff' for 1 year only.

The only difference between me and some others is that im asking the questions now that you will be asking in 2 years. Thats my belief anyway and i will stand by it.

Luckycharms_74 wrote: »

Can wait to see this tbh. Look at Lucas 3m26s in then look at Charlie Adam struggle with chin ups 3m 32s

firemansam4 wrote: »

But how much debt was being put onto the club in them times? and how close were we to going into administration under H&G?
Is that really the road we want to go down again?

whatawaster wrote: »

Last year, when you strip out all exceptional items, we had an operating loss of around £34 million.

Since then we have increased turnover and reduced the wage bill. Both those things needed to happen, and hopefully by this stage our revenues and our costs have met in the middle and we are now profitable or at least breaking even.

There wasn’t an option to simply replace those players’ wages. We were paying salaries at a higher rate than we could afford. I really don’t care what Werner said about increasing wages, I’ll bet he had factored in CL qualification in order to make those wage increases feasible.

Nothing is being hovered up. It appears that 100% of what we bring in is being re-invested in the football club. The owners gave Kenny money to spend and let him maintain the wage bill at a very high level. Rodgers has had transfer money to spend too but has had to reduce the wage bill.

I think some people think they are prophets, heralding the news that we aren’t going to win the league with this strategy while the rest of us turn a blind eye to what’s going on.
Guess what? We all know we aren’t going to win the league in the next 5 years with this strategy, barring a miracle*. That doesn’t make this the wrong path, or even a bad path. People like to talk about Arsenal like the club is falling to pieces. If we are consistently finishing in the top 4 over the next 4/5 years I’d be absolutely delighted.

*Miracles do happen in football. We could hit the jackpot with Rodgers. The stars could align in our favour and Coates, Robinson, Shelvey, Henderson, Suso, Sterling, Allen, Borini could all go on to be top players and we could have a top team on our hands in 2/3 years when you add in the likes of Lucas, Suarez, Johnson, Reina, Agger and Skrtel who could all still be around about their prime.

*Unfortunately, I think a miracle is along the lines of what is needed in the PL these days. United have Ferguson. Arsenal have Wenger. Chelsea have spent £1bn under Roman. Man City have spent hundreds of millions under their owners.

Luckycharms_74 wrote: »

I was being sarcastic. The sad face was the face that he was and still is a Liverpool player. Sooner he is shipped out the better along with little Jay.

rarnes1 wrote: »

Lol, have you access to Liverpool training files and manager methods.

Vicxas wrote: »

Can someone give me the minutes of the convo with any interesting bits, as im stuck in work

K-9 wrote: »

I don't think the accounts are as healthy as you think. Yep, we sold Torres but we don't have much to sell, seeing as we wasted a fair bit of our transfer spend or overpaid, Agger looks like he's staying, nobody will pay £20 Million for Carroll.

The club has spent over £25 Million this Summer, £35 Million last, contracts have to be renewed too which costs money. I'll wait till the accounts are out before reading too much into all this.