Manchester United Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 12/13

kippy wrote: »

The amount of money he gets paid, is probably irrelevant to be honest. The point is they are getting paid money (i.e they are professionals) to play football.
Professionals, allegedly at the top of their game with the best of facilities and staff available to them and nothing to do all week outside of practicising to play football.

The "variables" you are speaking off, are:
1. Not as variable as you make out.
2. Only two, what are the other ones that make up this "huge" amount?
The "variables" are nowhere near as relevant as you appear to believe. The dimensions of the pitch don't change a huge amount from game to game (they are the exact same for every home game) the ball is almost always of the exact same type (throughout a single season) the size of the box and six yard box don't change, the type of boots that you wear generally don't change (remember lots of sports science goes into this so you have the "best gear") and usually the height of your team mates doesn't change.
I wouldn't be of the opinion that they need to get the ball into the exact same place all the time, but they should be able to ensure the ball doesn't hit the first obstacle it can hit, unless the kicker has intended this to happen.

I don't get the point about the speed of the ball. Again, this is something that can be practised and should be practised. They are "trying" to do something, surely they try to do the exact same thing in training over and over again? Isn't that how it should work for set piece specialists?

And what about my point about the fact that so many pro footballers have a "poor" left foot? Why do pro footballers not have the ability to train in order to improve their "bad" foot. I mean, surely this would be a great benefit over time? What are the variables involved there?

Footballers are human, they are indeed "allowed" to make mistakes, just like the referees and officials that work with them, however consistent "mistakes", especially when it involves set pieces, isn't something that I believe should be let off.

Yeah, I played football and a few other sports, but I never trained and played it full time with access to the best resources available and was regarded as a human at the top of my chosen profession for it.

alproctor wrote: »

Look I'm not going to get into a tit for tat exchange with you over small details. Nor am I going to pick at your post.

The fact is, that to expect a footballer, professional or otherwise, to be able to reproduce the exact same outcome each time from similar situations is completely is just unfair, to say the least....

I was as frustrated as anyone this time last week at Nani's deliveries, but to throw out the argument that he's a professional and should be able to do it every time is just wrong.

kippy wrote: »

Anyone any thoughts on my "bad foot" and solutions to it? Surely all that takes is training?
I am fairly surprised that most fans here seem to think its perfectly acceptable for corners to hit the first man on a relatively consistent basis.

kippy wrote: »

You've be making excuses for it for the past 5 posts.....

Everything is going to be ok, stay calm, but me and my agent, we need to eat too:))..And don't read to many newspapers, they write whatever they want..:))..

alproctor wrote: »

I also said I wan't getting into a tit for tat exchange with you. I never said it was acceptable. It is bloody frustrating.

What I was trying to say in my 'last 5 posts' was that it was understandable. You don't think so, I do. Let's move on.

IvySlayer wrote: »

Spurs are after M'vila.

PS Keno is a nerd