CAP 2 Exams 2012

myshirt · 25-08-2012 04:16PM

EDudder wrote: »

Yeah there was some excellent examiner feedback. Really specific and tailored too.

Basically around 55% of students at this level are not competent enough with financial reporting because they didn't do the easier question first.

:rolleyes:

Can't believe I paid money for this.

Value for money so?

I just read the report also... the tone of it sounds kind of cross...

Did they give any areas to focus on, as in those that will be re-examined

EDudder · 25-08-2012 04:54PM

I copped that as one of their defense mechanisms whenever I was reading examiner reports in May. Instead of addressing the fact that so many well prepared students of a certain level are failing, just copy and paste a big rant as if they are disappointed in the standard of exams. Sure they can hardly fail half of the people and praise the standard at the same time I suppose.

The lecture from Ronan at the start (the specific feedback we were promised) was much the same....more of a telling off than any form of constructive feedback for a bunch of adults who have thus far achieved highly in their academic careers.

He spent half of the time going on about being disciplined and I quote "parking the social life".

This is the Director of Education (head of CAP 2). And he thinks the failure rates are so high because we are undisciplined and party too much. I couldn't ****ing believe it.

myshirt · 25-08-2012 05:16PM

Did anybody ever watch any of these?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJ7LUhNT1GI&feature=related

KingEnda · 25-08-2012 05:26PM

Is Ronan the new FR lecturer? Where there many students present, it must be a nice little earner for the Institute

doz · 25-08-2012 07:58PM

I find it laughable that the Institute see it fit to chastise students in respect of their answers in the reports (copying from solutions, templates etc.) and then adopt the laziest 'copy and paste' job for each exam report that a 12 year old would be capable of writing. It is so comforting to know that some of these people are at the top of our profession.

ted2767 · 26-08-2012 03:02PM

doz wrote: »

I find it laughable that the Institute see it fit to chastise students in respect of their answers in the reports (copying from solutions, templates etc.) and then adopt the laziest 'copy and paste' job for each exam report that a 12 year old would be capable of writing. It is so comforting to know that some of these people are at the top of our profession.

Couldn't agree more.
The institute are a complete joke.
The notes that are posted are laughable they're so poor.
Some of lecturers shouldn't even be allowed teach pre school.

Pawwed Rig · 26-08-2012 05:39PM

Slightly harsh. I find most of the lecturers are pretty good. I would agree that the materials are poor (books and notes) especially when compared to Kaplan or ACCA course materials. (note I am not saying ACCA is better or worse just comparing materials).
The biggest issue is the solo run they seem to have gone on the exams. While I do not think they are a bad idea as such, I think the institute in cahoots with the accountancy firms do not give people fair chances to pass.
For example every study on education will show that learning is best achieved with lessons of under and hour with regular breaks and revision of material covered however for the the sake of keeping lecturing costs down I have often attended whole day lectures on the same subject. 5-6 hours of a lecture where I remember around 1 quarter of it. The best lecturer in the world cannot give a 6 hour lecture effectively. that coupled with 14 hour days puts some at a serious disadvantage

ted2767 · 26-08-2012 10:19PM

Pawwed Rig wrote: »

Slightly harsh. I find most of the lecturers are pretty good. I would agree that the materials are poor (books and notes) especially when compared to Kaplan or ACCA course materials. (note I am not saying ACCA is better or worse just comparing materials).
The biggest issue is the solo run they seem to have gone on the exams. While I do not think they are a bad idea as such, I think the institute in cahoots with the accountancy firms do not give people fair chances to pass.
For example every study on education will show that learning is best achieved with lessons of under and hour with regular breaks and revision of material covered however for the the sake of keeping lecturing costs down I have often attended whole day lectures on the same subject. 5-6 hours of a lecture where I remember around 1 quarter of it. The best lecturer in the world cannot give a 6 hour lecture effectively. that coupled with 14 hour days puts some at a serious disadvantage

I think the stsndard of lecturers varies massively and thats a massive issue.
For example you might have half a dozen people lecturing fin reporting all teaching a different method.
Also for sfma the finance guy was a waste of space but the mgt acc guy was a legend.
Until the institute irons out these discrepancies in standards theses issues will always arise.

notanocelot · 26-08-2012 11:32PM

ted2767 wrote: »

I think the stsndard of lecturers varies massively and thats a massive issue.
For example you might have half a dozen people lecturing fin reporting all teaching a different method.
Also for sfma the finance guy was a waste of space but the mgt acc guy was a legend.
Until the institute irons out these discrepancies in standards theses issues will always arise.

Did you have the guy for finance who worked in america for a bit and has a bit of an american accent? I found him fabulous last year.

myshirt · 26-08-2012 11:50PM

notanocelot wrote: »

ted2767 wrote: »

I think the stsndard of lecturers varies massively and thats a massive issue.
For example you might have half a dozen people lecturing fin reporting all teaching a different method.
Also for sfma the finance guy was a waste of space but the mgt acc guy was a legend.
Until the institute irons out these discrepancies in standards theses issues will always arise.

Did you have the guy for finance who worked in america for a bit and has a bit of an american accent? I found him fabulous last year.

We had that donegal barrister guy.

He was appalling.

Absolutely appalling.

So bad that institute actually put their hands up, admitted this and apologised.

ted2767 · 27-08-2012 07:42AM

notanocelot wrote: »

ted2767 wrote: »

I think the stsndard of lecturers varies massively and thats a massive issue.
For example you might have half a dozen people lecturing fin reporting all teaching a different method.
Also for sfma the finance guy was a waste of space but the mgt acc guy was a legend.
Until the institute irons out these discrepancies in standards theses issues will always arise.

Did you have the guy for finance who worked in america for a bit and has a bit of an american accent? I found him fabulous last year.

We had a small angry man who always went on about shares in tesco he was a joke.

national express · 27-08-2012 02:33PM

Pawwed Rig wrote: »

Slightly harsh. I find most of the lecturers are pretty good. I would agree that the materials are poor (books and notes) especially when compared to Kaplan or ACCA course materials. (note I am not saying ACCA is better or worse just comparing materials).
The biggest issue is the solo run they seem to have gone on the exams. While I do not think they are a bad idea as such, I think the institute in cahoots with the accountancy firms do not give people fair chances to pass.
For example every study on education will show that learning is best achieved with lessons of under and hour with regular breaks and revision of material covered however for the the sake of keeping lecturing costs down I have often attended whole day lectures on the same subject. 5-6 hours of a lecture where I remember around 1 quarter of it. The best lecturer in the world cannot give a 6 hour lecture effectively. that coupled with 14 hour days puts some at a serious disadvantage

I've always wondered about that. For example at the weekend there the lecture had one break - lunch. Apart from that it was constant going.

At all levels of education I've been constantly reminded - keep sessions to an hour or less. It's widely known concentration drops a ridiculous amount after 60 mins. Hence secondary school and college classes being 1 - 2 hour blocks.

Surely having sessions that don't stop for 4 hours is both unprofessional, and just plain bad teaching?

Pawwed Rig · 27-08-2012 03:02PM

Yes even one of the lectures said to us this year that it is a completely ineffective way to learn.
Unfortunately the lecturers tend to be hired for the day at whatever rate they charge. They try to get through as much material in as short a space of time as possible thereby minimising costs for the Institute. I presume this has been agreed with the firms to minimise disruption to your work days.

The ideal way to do these course would be 2 evenings a week every week say 6-9:30. With say on Tues a 90 min lecture on FR with a short break followed by a 90 min lecture on Audit. Then cover Tax and SFMA on the Wed night. However you would have to have 2 lecturers in each eveing which will cost along with the firms not being able to have theri 14 hour days 2 days a week.

Cooking the books · 11-01-2013 09:20PM

So appeal results came out today. Did anyone pass in the appeal?

I fell down in FR and I was unsuccessful today. Hopefully the tutorial report can shed some light on where I went wrong

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CAP 2 Exams 2012

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