Cost of petrol

OnTheCounter · 24-08-2012 05:42PM #1

With the price of petrol expected to break the €2 a litre mark I was wondering how much do people spend each year on petrol?

It would be good if you could give a bit more detail about your motors MPG or other factors such as average hours spent driving per week and if your job involves driving (excluding time driving to an office for professionals/office workers).

24-08-2012 06:42PM

It will be a while yet before we have to worry about 2.00 Euro petrol. The greatest threat will be a weakening Euro against the U.S.D.

Anyone thinks the Government might reduce fuel tax can think again as they have made it clear it won't happen.

I drive an 07 Prius and get 62-64 mpg average per tank. The diesel A4 automatic got 48 mpg average, I'm really happy with the Prius!

That means the A4 would get me 764 Kms on 45 litres compared to 1019 in the Prius.

The difference at the pump is 4.50 euros or just 51 Kms so even with the extra cost of petrol I'm saving a lot over the diesel.

I do about 20 k miles a year costing 3000 euros or more.

Sure if you want the cheapest possible fuel, then nothing beats electric!

donalabu · 24-08-2012 07:54PM

i d spend over 2000 per year

goz83 · 24-08-2012 07:56PM

I drive a 97 fto and I suppose it coughs up at about 25mpg, which is fine, because I don't do a great deal of driving. My office is a 5 minute drive from me and I will do the occasional long journey an couple of times per year. I would guess my average weekly consumption s €40, so that's €2080 per year. Tax is €600. Not cheap to run a car, but it beats the hell out of sharing a moving stink box with a pile of junkies gettin schmoked up at de baack.

paddy147 · 24-08-2012 09:06PM

FG/Labour wont do anything to help this country out.

They will however happily bleed us all dry and pay back german bondholders.

It now turns out that the ECB overstepped the line and illegally forced and threatened us to pay the bond holders.

Enda Kenny and Michael Noonan have alot of explaining to do to the Irish people over this very serious matter.Theres also a letter from the ECB threatening Ireland aswell,which the goverment have now said/admitted exists (after being put under preessure to say whether it exists or not)

WE NEVER had to pay the bondholders...........the truth finally comes out.

But Kenny and Noonan will deny this and try to worm their way out of it....AGAIN.

Will they step in and put a cap on fuel prices??

Feck no way will they,because they are greedy grubby sly bast^rds.

Bandara · 24-08-2012 09:10PM

Ah the standard government rant

Thanks for that

Jimbob 83 · 24-08-2012 09:12PM

Here we go !

Popcorn getcha Popcorn, delicious buttery popcorn !!!

paddy147 · 24-08-2012 09:19PM

Sorry but its true.

Look after the germans...but fcuk the Irish people over in the process.

Why cant/wont they cut fuel costs???

Because they are greedy/grubby bast^rds.

They are ruining the domestic Irish economy.

Jimbob 83 · 24-08-2012 09:21PM

If we are all in with the EU why do we have some of the most stupid/illegal motor taxation laws.

Harmonisation my furt (name i just made up for the soft part behind your knee)

paddy147 · 24-08-2012 09:23PM

So when do we stand up and say NO.

What price does fuel have to hit,before we all say NO and force Kenny and Noonan do do something.????

DanWall · 24-08-2012 09:29PM

Everytime the price of fuel goes up the percentage take on tax goes up, people will have to change their life style, obtain work near home, live near towns an villages so there is not so much reliance on cars to live and go to the shops etc.

I am particularly concerned about heating oil, I suspect other fuels such as coal follows the trend and goes up because there is less competion. It would be nice to live near a forest and collect my own wind blow wood for nothing.

paddy147 · 24-08-2012 09:32PM

Supermarkets will put food prices up too....as they will have very high diesel costs for their trucks.

Gas is about to go up by another 8%...thanks to the CER saying yes to Bord Gais.

Nothing new there then

colm_mcm · 24-08-2012 09:33PM

This is not the politics forum

goz83 · 24-08-2012 09:34PM

Sure we could all just break the law and cut turf on protected bog lands, while spewing more waste into the atmosphere. If we're gonna go down, we're doin it in style. Not really tho.

paddy147 · 24-08-2012 09:35PM

colm_mcm wrote: »

This is not the politics forum

Yes,you are right,its not

BUT

Fuel affects everyone and everything in this country.

When fuel rises,it cuts into peoples lives in every way possible.
And when you see the government doing sweet fcuk all about it,it tends to annoy people too.

Jimbob 83 · 24-08-2012 09:35PM

It's only illegal as it's not taxable even though it's a privately owned natural resource

coolisin · 24-08-2012 09:43PM

Kenny, noonan, berty, cowen.
The things that the last government introduced have never being changed.
And with the a different government in power it'd nearly be all the same.

The tax on petrol and diesel is sh1te but it's the fact there is a few taxes (vat co2 charge).

In a 1.4 id spend too much for a car with little bang, 1.70ish a litre lately prob €60 a week maybe max that might be every two weeks depending what is happening or where we are going!
€333 a year on tax too!

Leonard Hofstadter · 24-08-2012 09:46PM

paddy147 wrote: »

Yes,you are right,its not

BUT

Fuel affects everyone and everything in this country.

When fuel rises,it cuts into peoples lives in every way possible.
And when you see the government doing sweet fcuk all about it,it tends to annoy people too.

Fuel is one of the most inelastic goods in existance, along with fags and alcohol. That's why no Government worth their salt will cut taxes on these, especially when we're still massively overspending. The money has to come from somewhere.

If we want lower fuel taxes then we must all decide collectively as a nation to consciously drive less. If that happened, then Government revenue would decrease and they would either not increase fuel duty or maybe even decrease it.

Until such time as that happens, fuel duty is never going to come down, it is pretty much guaranteed income for the Government. As I said earlier, the money has to come from somewhere, and personally I would rather a few extra cent on fuel as opposed to say going back on the changes they made to the USC where the first €10,000 of income is exempt from that absolutely cruel tax.

paddy147 · 24-08-2012 09:49PM

captainspeed wrote: »

Fuel is one of the most inelastic goods in existance, along with fags and alcohol. That's why no Government worth their salt will cut taxes on these, especially when we're still massively overspending. The money has to come from somewhere.

If we want lower fuel taxes then we must all decide collectively as a nation to consciously drive less. If that happened, then Government revenue would decrease and they would either not increase fuel duty or maybe even decrease it.

Until such time as that happens, fuel duty is never going to come down, it is pretty much guaranteed income for the Government. As I said earlier, the money has to come from somewhere, and personally I would rather a few extra cent on fuel as opposed to say going back on the changes they made to the USC where the first €10,000 of income is exempt from that absolutely cruel tax.

The money has to come from somewhere you say???

Dont pay the german bondholders billions of euro every couple of months,and take 15-20 cents in duty off the cost of fuel,to ease the burden on the Irish people and domestic economy.

Government now has a load more money and doesnt fcuk up the domestic economy any more either.

Simples.

PS-You say we should "drive less".

Ah sure great,we all should eat less food,drink less fluids.

We will all just eat and drink rations of bread and water,while the unsecured german bondholders are kept happy by Kenny and Noonam with billions upon billions of euros

Wetbench4 · 24-08-2012 09:51PM

fuel tax, road tax, vrt... No wonder they split it up, if it was one tax it would be ridiculously big and they'd never get away with it. Or would they??

Guy:Incognito · 24-08-2012 10:27PM

paddy147 wrote: »

The money has to come from somewhere you say???

Dont pay the german bondholders billions of euro every couple of months,and take 15-20 cents in duty off the cost of fuel,to ease the burden on the Irish people and domestic economy.

Government now has a load more money and doesnt fcuk up the domestic economy any more either.

Simples.

Simples eh?The country is costing around 15b a year more to run than is taken in taxes. Nothing to do with banks, bondholders or any other rabble rousing stuff. The day to day paying for stuff like health, education, social welfare and public sector wages.

But never mind all that. You just carry on throwing the word bondholders around as much as possible.

Captain Chaos · 24-08-2012 10:34PM

captainspeed wrote: »

If we want lower fuel taxes then we must all decide collectively as a nation to consciously drive less. If that happened, then Government revenue would decrease and they would either not increase fuel duty or maybe even decrease it.

This government would actually put it up so those still paying it would make up the difference lost. Like Irish rail charging more for tickets because numbers are down so paying customers make up the difference.

paddy147 · 24-08-2012 10:41PM

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Simples eh?The country is costing around 15b a year more to run than is taken in taxes. Nothing to do with banks, bondholders or any other rabble rousing stuff. The day to day paying for stuff like health, education, social welfare and public sector wages.

But never mind all that. You just carry on throwing the word bondholders around as much as possible.

So what do you think the goverment could do with all the billlions they throw over to the germans every few months??

What could they use that money for here in this country??

It is indeed very simple.

The domestic economy is fcuked at the moment,but Kenny and Noonan dont care about it or this country.

Its all about keeping Germany happy.:rolleyes:

Theres only so much and so far Kenny and Noonan can push the people of this country,before they all snap and say NO MORE.

scamalert · 24-08-2012 10:46PM

work in petrol station last day we put up price to 1.71 F****ing sickening,and manager mentioned it going up again in couple weeks time probably :cool:,the ones to blame are the importers of fuel Shell,BP,ESSO and such as they manipulate the prices,and funny thing is when the crude drops on exchange they say they bought for the higher price,and vise versa

same applies to petrol stations price might drop 1-5 cents but until they use up all their reserves dont expect it to drop a cent.It wouldnt be all that bad but count in insurance,road tax,car service,nct and you work just to pay your bills to get to work :pac:

Guy:Incognito · 24-08-2012 10:56PM

paddy147 wrote: »

Theres only so much and so far Kenny and Noonan can push the people of this country,before they all snap and say NO MORE.

Maybe they should all go buy cheap petrol up north...................

miller50841 · 24-08-2012 10:58PM

Spend €60- €80 a week or week and a half on a 2ltr turbo octavia.
4x4 would cost €80 Dublin to Sligo and back and a little bit more but not much.

Can remember filling the hair dryer(moped) with £1.50 to £2.00 pounds and get 100 miles or bit more them were the days.

Hydrogen is the way in the future the oil companys will keep the likes of that at bay till oil runs out.

dgt · 24-08-2012 11:22PM

Estimated I spend approx 2500 yoyos a year on petrol. With the same mileage on the diesel, I'm estimating I'll save the tax money for the year and them some. The diesel mpg is showing already, with the pump turned down well I get well over 50mpg (possibly near 60 but I'll check someday) where my van would top at 49mpg, as proven on a recent run to Galway and back

Leonard Hofstadter · 24-08-2012 11:31PM

paddy147 wrote: »

So what do you think the goverment could do with all the billlions they throw over to the germans every few months??

What could they use that money for here in this country??

It is indeed very simple.

The domestic economy is fcuked at the moment,but Kenny and Noonan dont care about it or this country.

Its all about keeping Germany happy.:rolleyes:

Theres only so much and so far Kenny and Noonan can push the people of this country,before they all snap and say NO MORE.

What money are we 'handing over to the Germans'?

I presume you're talking about the money we are legally obliged to give to institutions like Anglo etc etc. As you know, the previous Government signed up to the IMF programme, and this may come as a shock to you, but when you join a club or sign up to something then you must honour your side of the bargain.

\end of politics rant

paddy147 · 24-08-2012 11:47PM

captainspeed wrote: »

What money are we 'handing over to the Germans'?

I presume you're talking about the money we are legally obliged to give to institutions like Anglo etc etc. As you know, the previous Government signed up to the IMF programme, and this may come as a shock to you, but when you join a club or sign up to something then you must honour your side of the bargain.

\end of politics rant

We are not legaly oblidged to hand it over.WE NEVER WERE.

Pat Rabbite admitted it (finally) the other night on Vincent Brown,when Colm McCarthy did some investigating.Theres also a threatening letter from the ECB,which the goverment only now will admit exists,after McCarthy uncovered it.

The ECB have acted out of their league and we (Ireland) now have a legal case to bring to the European Courts of Justice,as the ECB has acted illegally towards us.

We are not legaly oblidged to pay any money back to the bondholders.

WE should not have paid any money to the germans at all.

Ireland will now be looking for most of the money back,or at least mid to high 20 billion euro back.

paddy147 · 24-08-2012 11:56PM

captainspeed wrote: »

What money are we 'handing over to the Germans'?

I presume you're talking about the money we are legally obliged to give to institutions like Anglo etc etc. As you know, the previous Government signed up to the IMF programme, and this may come as a shock to you, but when you join a club or sign up to something then you must honour your side of the bargain.

\end of politics rant

Are you 100% sure about that then?

Pat Rabbit.....Goverment minister "finally" admits some interesting things on Vincent Brown,after Colm McCarthy does an indepth investigation on the ECB.

Basicly,we got threatened and forced to pay the German bondholders,when we never had to pay them at all.Theres no legal requirement for paying the bondholders back,in the IMF agreement and rules.

http://www.tv3.ie/3player/show/41/52207/1/Tonight-with-Vincent-Browne

Now I wonder will Kenny and Noonan finaly grow some balls and stand up to the ECB and Germany???

And stop screwing over the people of Ireland and the domestic economy.

Dont pay the bondholders,cut the fuel prices by 15 cents and get some stability back into the domestic economy.

OnTheCounter · 25-08-2012 12:04AM

Thread took a different turn than I was expecting... Bondholders, ECB and ze germans.

Basically I was looking to see what the average running costs per year would be.

Cost of petrol

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