Manchester United Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 12/13

TheTownie · 24-08-2012 12:22AM

Why are people peeved over Sahin? The info currently available suggests hes only after first team football, not a new club. Why would Utd move for a player like that?

Given the chance, Liverpool or Arsenal would buy Sahin in a heartbeat. If he was for sale, no doubt Utd would be in for him too. The reason its a loan is because both Sahin and, to a lesser extent, Madrid want it to be a loan.

Its not a case of Liverpool/Arsenal looking at him and saying, 'oh can't take a risk on him given the season he just had'. Hes a quality player. They probably hope to convince him to stay after a season in England.

IMO they will fail and he will return to Madrid. As I said earlier, I also think there won't be an option to buy.

Theres been nothing from the player to suggest he wants out of Madrid permanently and Madrid have said its up to the player. They won't mind keeping him on the books because they know he has buckets of potential.

Jimmy Iovine · 24-08-2012 12:23AM

Paully D wrote: »

Just under €14 (free delivery) for the hardback edition here if anyone's interested:

http://www.bookdepository.co.uk/Thinking-Inside-Box-louis-saha/9781907637537

Might pick that up myself.

Decent enough. I'm gonna wait till I read a few pages in a shop before I commit to it. Would like to find a paper back version to save a few euros if I can. I'm sure Louis won't mind if I don't buy the dearer one.

Jame Gumb wrote: »

Off the Ball did an interview with him a while back. It sounds very interesting. Would be keen to read about Clarefontaine etc.

Any link to that?

I've also been intrigued by Clairefontaine ever since I first heard of it 8-10 years ago. Would love to know more about it.

Jame Gumb · 24-08-2012 12:26AM

Jimmy Iovine wrote: »

Paully D wrote: »

Just under €14 (free delivery) for the hardback edition here if anyone's interested:

http://www.bookdepository.co.uk/Thinking-Inside-Box-louis-saha/9781907637537

Might pick that up myself.

Decent enough. I'm gonna wait till I read a few pages in a shop before I commit to it. Would like to find a paper back version to save a few euros if I can. I'm sure Louis won't mind if I don't buy the dearer one.

Jame Gumb wrote: »

Off the Ball did an interview with him a while back. It sounds very interesting. Would be keen to read about Clarefontaine etc.

Any link to that?

I've also been intrigued by Clairefontaine ever since I first heard of it 8-10 years ago. Would love to know more about it.

No, sorry. Just remember hearing it in the car. Was a while back. Maybe March/April?

Roger Sterling · 24-08-2012 12:30AM

TheTownie wrote: »

Why are people peeved over Sahin? The info currently available suggests hes only after first team football, not a new club. Why would Utd move for a player like that?

Given the chance, Liverpool or Arsenal would buy Sahin in a heartbeat. If he was for sale, no doubt Utd would be in for him too. The reason its a loan is because both Sahin and, to a lesser extent, Madrid want it to be a loan.

Its not a case of Liverpool/Arsenal looking at him and saying, 'oh can't take a risk on him given the season he just had'. Hes a quality player. They probably hope to convince him to stay after a season in England.

IMO they will fail and he will return to Madrid. As I said earlier, I also think there won't be an option to buy.

Theres been nothing from the player to suggest he wants out of Madrid permanently and Madrid have said its up to the player. They won't mind keeping him on the books because they know he has buckets of potential.

Yup loaning him is not a long term solution.Simply kicking the can down the road.Fine for mid table clubs with no real direction but not the big boys. Hes crazy to be wasting a year ofhis life stuck there tbh.

Jimmy Iovine · 24-08-2012 12:38AM

Jame Gumb wrote: »

No, sorry. Just remember hearing it in the car. Was a while back. Maybe March/April?

Managed to find it. Just listening at the moment.

http://tunein.com/topic/?TopicId=38841089#

You can find it on the link above. Go the third page of results and it's down near the end under May 15th.

One tip. Don't pause it. It'll reset the whole audio.

EDIT: Just finished it there. Very good interview. His point about Evra was interesting. He doesn't know how to waffle, just speaks what's on his mind.

Also I'm glad he spoke about Zidane's performance in the '06 WC v Brazil. That was the greatest performance that I've seen from any player.

I think I'll be buying the book.

yabadabado · 24-08-2012 01:22AM

Paully D wrote: »

Just under €14 (free delivery) for the hardback edition here if anyone's interested:

http://www.bookdepository.co.uk/Thinking-Inside-Box-louis-saha/9781907637537

Might pick that up myself.

Jimmy Iovine wrote: »

Managed to find it. Just listening at the moment.

http://tunein.com/topic/?TopicId=38841089#

You can find it on the link above. Go the third page of results and it's down near the end under May 15th.

One tip. Don't pause it. It'll reset the whole audio.

EDIT: Just finished it there. Very good interview. His point about Evra was interesting. He doesn't know how to waffle, just speaks what's on his mind.

Also I'm glad he spoke about Zidane's performance in the '06 WC v Brazil. That was the greatest performance that I've seen from any player.

I think I'll be buying the book.

Its $10.14 for the Kindle I got it a few weeks back,just had a quick skim through it because I have a few other books on the go.Will start it soon and let ye know what I think.

Paul Tergat · 24-08-2012 01:37AM

Is there anyway of seeing who has added the tags?

yabadabado · 24-08-2012 01:39AM

Paul Tergat wrote: »

Is there anyway of seeing who has added the tags?

There should be,would like to see who added some of the tags.

J. Marston · 24-08-2012 01:54AM

Roger Sterling wrote: »

Yup loaning him is not a long term solution.Simply kicking the can down the road.Fine for mid table clubs with no real direction but not the big boys. Hes crazy to be wasting a year ofhis life stuck there tbh.

ShooterSF · 24-08-2012 02:02AM

Jimmy Iovine wrote: »

As far as I know he wrote it himself so it's not your typical footballers book.

He probably had more time than most players :P

(Poor Saha

)

Donnielighto · 24-08-2012 02:38AM

Anyone else notice arodabomb doestn post but probably has the highest amount of thanks given in this thread. Just goes around makin people feel better (except wally/negatron who doesnt like posts being thanked)

also im back, wasnt posting for a while due to dropping a cement mixer on two of my fingers...

Donnielighto · 24-08-2012 02:39AM

Paul Tergat wrote: »

Is there anyway of seeing who has added the tags?

ze mods can, one of them commented on a tag i left before

Jimmy Iovine · 24-08-2012 02:51AM

ShooterSF wrote: »

He probably had more time than most players :P

(Poor Saha )

True that.

But he also seems to be intelligent, unlike your average footballer. In that interview with Off The Ball he spoke with perfect English. There are guys for whom English is their first language and they can't string together a correct sentence.

I'm looking forward to reading it. Hopefully he goes into a bit of detail about his time at United. I think he interviewed Fergie and a few of the players so that should be interesting.

cloptrop · 24-08-2012 08:32AM

Saha didnt play unless he was 100 per cent fit . Physically and mentally . I remember one of his managers making a kind of veiled dig at him .
It was basically saying not being arsed was an injury .
Ill rack my brain for the day to try find it
Did he refuse to play a cup final for someobe because he didnt feel 100 per cent ?
Doing my head in.

Pogba is mouthing off in l'equipe. Although everyone saying **** always tends to be in that magazine . A week later then they say sorry must have translated it wrong . They are always at it .
He couldnt care about alex fergusens 25 years in the game. He is ready now and was growing impatient for games. And the juve coach promised he could be sub for Pirlo and the other fella.
The sad thing is he will be sub for Pirlo and the other 3 players

magnumbud · 24-08-2012 08:58AM

just on the sahin to liverpool proposed loan. it will give him a chance to show he can play in the premier league even if it is for a mid table club and then we buy him next summer if he is good enough :-D.

I hear he is class al right but it would take signing 4-5 players of that standard joining them to move LIVERPOOL from where they ended last year to challenging for the title

nicklauski · 24-08-2012 09:20AM

I'd imagine there is a press conference today?

Hopefully Fergie will give an indication of the team, if Evans is back, if Carrick will be CB again.

TheTownie · 24-08-2012 09:22AM

A rumour about Herrera;

Chris Atkins
@Chris_Elastico
So, @LopezOlvera (Commentator in Mexico) says Herrera will join #MUFC and be loaned back until December. Spoke with Pachuca president

Chris Atkins
@Chris_Elastico
No idea on his trustworthiness. Let's see...

Chris Atkins
@Chris_Elastico
RT @Cynegeticus: He is good, especially as he is very versatile, and has some things that would help in UK, like stamina. #Herrera

Copper_pipe · 24-08-2012 09:23AM

Buttner will wear number 28,

magnumbud · 24-08-2012 09:25AM

wouldnt be surprised if he said evans and rio were not fit and then went and played one of them. fergie tends to do that so that managers plan for someone not to be there or in this case to play against carrick in defence

Mitch Connor · 24-08-2012 09:25AM

TheTownie wrote: »

A rumour about Herrera;

So, the rumour is we are going to sign a hard working box to box midfielder and leave him on loan til December? It is like Fergie is just trolling at this point!

I would also confess I have little to no knowledge of this guy, so don't know if he would be the player we need (imo)

Mitch Connor · 24-08-2012 09:27AM

Fergie: we definitely won't be buying anyone else
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Bitterly disappointing, if he is telling the truth as the current team/squad simply isn't good enough. Unbalanced and lacking in midfield. FFS.

Copper_pipe · 24-08-2012 09:28AM

He also said there is every chance robin van Persie will start tomorrow

homerjay2005 · 24-08-2012 09:29AM

nicklauski wrote: »

Hopefully Fergie will give an indication of the team, if Evans is back, if Carrick will be CB again.

hopefully Evans is in, if we get over this with 3 points, we have only one game then for the next 3 weeks and thats southampton next weekend.

that 3 weeks should i hope, see Rio and Jones back, along with Vidic and Evans giving us plenty of options going into. but its defo worrying times in terms of injuries for sure

Mitch Connor · 24-08-2012 09:31AM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

hopefully Evans is in, if we get over this with 3 points, we have only one game then for the next 3 weeks and thats southampton next weekend.

that 3 weeks should i hope, see Rio and Jones back, along with Vidic and Evans giving us plenty of options going into. but its defo worrying times in terms of injuries for sure

Said there is a possibility of Evra starting at CB tomorrow, so that doesn't bode well for Evans' fitness.

Evans, Rio, Smalling, Jones all out of the game tomorrow. Jones is back in training though.

Your Airbag · 24-08-2012 09:38AM

Manchester United are believed to be lining up a shock move for Tottenham midfielder Rafael Van der Vaar

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2192896/Rafael-van-der-Vaart-shock-target-Manchester-United.html#ixzz24S0sb91m

Its the daily fail but who knows right? :rolleyes:

MagicMarker · 24-08-2012 09:40AM

So maybe something along the lines of....

Rafael Vidic Evra Buttner
---- Carrick Scholes
Valencia - Rooney - Kagawa

v.Persie

Either that or Giggs will be LB. :eek: Or Valencia RB with Rafael LB.

I'd rather Carrick at CB than Evra tbh. In fact why not give Wooton a shot?!

DM_7 · 24-08-2012 09:40AM

Evra in the middle and Buttner to make his debut then?

Mitch Connor · 24-08-2012 09:41AM

Your Airbag wrote: »

Manchester United are believed to be lining up a shock move for Tottenham midfielder Rafael Van der Vaar

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2192896/Rafael-van-der-Vaart-shock-target-Manchester-United.html#ixzz24S0sb91m

Its the daily fail but who knows right? :rolleyes:

well, Fergie says we are not looking to buy anyone at all, so it would APPEAR to rule it out.

Logic, really, should rule it out anyway - we really don't need him! As far as Spurs midfielders go - Huddlestone (whom they have loaned out) and Sandro would be far more sensible targets.

I do hope Fergie is telling fibs - as we need a combative central midfielder.

alchemist33 · 24-08-2012 09:42AM

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Said there is a possibility of Evra starting at CB tomorrow, so that doesn't bode well for Evans' fitness.

Evans, Rio, Smalling, Jones all out of the game tomorrow. Jones is back in training though.

So Buttner at RB? Not the situation you want throw a newbie into.

CR 7 · 24-08-2012 09:42AM

Carrick was badly caught out a few times on Monday. I'd prefer to see Evra there, at least it might stop him going forward.

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