Manchester United Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 12/13

stesaurus · 21-08-2012 04:50PM

Jimmy Iovine wrote: »

The next Denis Irwin.

Can't tell too much from that video though. At times it looks like he's playing as a left winger or even a striker, not a left back.

Also it doesn't show any of his defending. He has a fantastic eye for goal though and looks comfortable going forward. Looking forward to seeing him play.

Isn't he a converted winger/playmaker? I haven't seem him play but I remember reading that somewhere.

It's just another ruse by Fergie to sign more wingers.

Jimmy Iovine · 21-08-2012 04:52PM

s.welstead wrote: »

Isn't he a converted winger/playmaker? I haven't seem him play but I remember reading that somewhere.

It's just another ruse by Fergie to sign more wingers.

I've no idea. I know almost nothing about him except that he seems to be a bit of a looper.

cson · 21-08-2012 04:54PM

Might light a fire under Evra's arse for you the new guy because he's been poor for a couple of seasons now.

stesaurus · 21-08-2012 04:54PM

MagicMarker wrote: »

I hook my laptop up to my HD TV, the LOF HD stream is about as perfect as you can get. You would never know it was a stream and it would even be better than SD imo. It costs me about 5 quid every couple of months, Sky Sports HD would cost me €50 per month.

You do the math.

There's more than Sky Sports HD(UK) in the world of satellite tv

I wouldn't have thought LOF was that reliable. Maybe just my perception of internet streaming in general is a bit out of date.
Also I'm a terrible HD snob, I'll regularly watch things in HD just because well it's HD.

How Soon Is Now · 21-08-2012 04:56PM

s.welstead wrote: »

cloptrop wrote: »

Do people still watch football on telly?
I like this new streaming thing you can watch pretty much any match you want . Rupert murdoch doesnt choose for you ,

I don't understand people who watch streaming. Sitting cramped over a small cream trying to make out who the hell is who and listening to some arabic commentator.

Live in the stadium > HD TV Screen >>>>>>>>>>Crappy streams

I use my 40in tv as a pc monitor so yahh :-) ha

MagicMarker · 21-08-2012 04:59PM

s.welstead wrote: »

There's more than Sky Sports HD(UK) in the world of satellite tv

I wouldn't have thought LOF was that reliable. Maybe just my perception of internet streaming in general is a bit out of date.
Also I'm a terrible HD snob, I'll regularly watch things in HD just because well it's HD.

I've used LOF for 2 or 3 years now, I think there was one occasion that I couldn't see a match due a technical fault on their end, and even then I think I only missed the first half. It allows me to see every single Utd game on Sky, Setanta & ESPN and even the ones that aren't televised in the UK & Ireland. All for a few quid every couple of months. Not to mention most of EPL games, some other leagues as well has boxing PPV etc etc...

I don't have the option for FTA, so to get the same channels with UPC would cost me approx 70-80 quid a month.

_blank_ · 21-08-2012 04:59PM

Mars Bar wrote: »

Of course they do. Bigger screen and no buffering. Why would you not want to watch it on telly if you could?

s.welstead wrote: »

I don't understand people who watch streaming. Sitting cramped over a small cream trying to make out who the hell is who and listening to some arabic commentator.

Live in the stadium > HD TV Screen >>>>>>>>>>Crappy streams

Streaming is not like that, hasn't been for years.

dahat · 21-08-2012 05:00PM

s.welstead wrote: »

There's more than Sky Sports HD(UK) in the world of satellite tv

I wouldn't have thought LOF was that reliable. Maybe just my perception of internet streaming in general is a bit out of date.
Also I'm a terrible HD snob, I'll regularly watch things in HD just because well it's HD.

I am also like you,love my HD and do not mind paying for it.I have had Sky for years and have never been without a service for more than 5 mins,pricey but worth it imo.

Julez · 21-08-2012 05:03PM

MagicMarker wrote: »

LOF

I can never sign up!! :mad: How do people get in at the right time?

IamtheWalrus · 21-08-2012 05:04PM

MagicMarker wrote: »

the LOF HD stream

What site is that?

yabadabado · 21-08-2012 05:06PM

Roger Sterling wrote: »

Whats the difference between 4-2-3-1 and what we played last night exactly apart from where you write the names "on paper."

What I meant we should stick to the formation we played last night which imo was a 4-2-3-1.Its the formation I think is best suited to the players we have.
I would like to see on Saturday:

DDG

RAF---Rio---Vidic---Evra

Carrick---Scholes --

Tony V ---Rooney---Kagawa-

RVP

Of course this cant be played if we dont have a partner for Vidic and Carrick is needed at CB.
Cleaverly and Nani could also be played instead of Scholes and Tony.

yabadabado · 21-08-2012 05:06PM

IamtheWalrus wrote: »

What site is that?

Live online football

markc1184 · 21-08-2012 05:08PM

If that Buttner chap can get into some of the attacking position Paddy Evra finds himself in then I think he'll grab a few goals over the season. More than Evra anyway. Hopefully he likes to get back from those attacking positions too.

Pro. F · 21-08-2012 05:11PM

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

Out of shape or not I'd still expect a player to have a decent first touch.
Rooneys first touch last night was abominable ,it was coming back off him faster than it was hitting his foot.
He has always had a poor first touch but last night was really bad .

No he hasn't. His first touch is normally excellent.

He was horrendous last night and his first touch and fitness were shocking for most of the game, it's true. But his first touch is normally excellent.

Following on from that, I want to address this myth that Rooney's general play was poor last season. He had a few poor games, but that's it, just a few poor games.

This myth that Rooney has been poor in general play for a good while is utter bollocks. Even if you overlook all the goals he scored, his link up play last season (and for the vast majority of his career) was excellent.

Rooney can melt down at any stage, be it because of hooker trouble, being played out of position, or whatever. He seems to be very delicate mentally. So I wouldn't be at all surprised if last night is just the start of him struggling. But when he is good, like he was last season, his all round game is excellent. Whatever happens over the next few months this myth that Rooney's general play last season was poor should stop now.

Higher · 21-08-2012 05:15PM

Are people all that surprised at Rooney's form? He was poor for pretty much all of last season. I don't know why its such a shock.

Your Airbag · 21-08-2012 05:20PM

Higher wrote: »

Are people all that surprised at Rooney's form? He was poor for pretty much all of last season. I don't know why its such a shock.

He scored 35 goals. What are you talking about?

All this hate towards Rooney is cringe worthy. Did anyone ever consider he just had a bad game? Cue the hatrick in a backlash against Fulham.

Will I Amnt · 21-08-2012 05:20PM

Pro. F wrote: »

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

Out of shape or not I'd still expect a player to have a decent first touch.
Rooneys first touch last night was abominable ,it was coming back off him faster than it was hitting his foot.
He has always had a poor first touch but last night was really bad .

No he hasn't. His first touch is normally excellent.

He was horrendous last night and his first touch and fitness were shocking for most of the game, it's true. But his first touch is normally excellent.

Following on from that, I want to address this myth that Rooney's general play was poor last season. He had a few poor games, but that's it, just a few poor games.

This myth that Rooney has been poor in general play for a good while is utter bollocks. Even if you overlook all the goals he scored, his link up play last season (and for the vast majority of his career) was excellent.

Rooney can melt down at any stage, be it because of hooker trouble, being played out of position, or whatever. He seems to be very delicate mentally. So I wouldn't be at all surprised if last night is just the start of him struggling. But when he is good, like he was last season, his all round game is excellent. Whatever happens over the next few months this myth that Rooney's general play last season was poor should stop now.

And that's the end of that chapter!!!

Higher · 21-08-2012 05:23PM

Your Airbag wrote: »

He scored 35 goals. What are you talking about?

To be perfectly honest, Robbie Keane would have scored those goals in that United team with the opportunities Rooney has been given. The fact is, he has failed to show up when the team has needed him. He just can't create that big of magic that the likes of Messi, Ballotelli and Pirlo can.

All this hate towards Rooney is cringe worthy. Did anyone ever consider he just had a bad game? Cue the hatrick in a backlash against Fulham.

I reckon hes on a steep downward spiral.

Felexicon · 21-08-2012 05:29PM

Higher wrote: »

To be perfectly honest, Robbie Keane would have scored those goals in that United team with the opportunities Rooney has been given. The fact is, he has failed to show up when the team has needed him. He just can't create that big of magic that the likes of Messi, Ballotelli and Pirlo can.

I reckon hes on a steep downward spiral.

Ah now come on man.
Obvious wind up is obvious.
And you were doing quite well until you brought Robbie 'boyhood dream' Keane into it.
Better luck next time

21-08-2012 05:30PM

Higher wrote: »

Your Airbag wrote: »

He scored 35 goals. What are you talking about?

To be perfectly honest, Robbie Keane would have scored those goals in that United team with the opportunities Rooney has been given. The fact is, he has failed to show up when the team has needed him. He just can't create that big of magic that the likes of Messi, Ballotelli and Pirlo can.

All this hate towards Rooney is cringe worthy. Did anyone ever consider he just had a bad game? Cue the hatrick in a backlash against Fulham.

I reckon hes on a steep downward spiral.

Well there it is, the most ridiculous thing I've ever read in the soccer forum.

Will I Amnt · 21-08-2012 05:30PM

Higher wrote: »

Your Airbag wrote: »

He scored 35 goals. What are you talking about?

To be perfectly honest, Robbie Keane would have scored those goals in that United team with the opportunities Rooney has been given. The fact is, he has failed to show up when the team has needed him. He just can't create that big of magic that the likes of Messi, Ballotelli and Pirlo can.

All this hate towards Rooney is cringe worthy. Did anyone ever consider he just had a bad game? Cue the hatrick in a backlash against Fulham.

I reckon hes on a steep downward spiral.

Is the rest of your username than Pete Doherty???

Jimmy Iovine · 21-08-2012 05:30PM

Higher wrote: »

To be perfectly honest, Robbie Keane would have scored those goals in that United team with the opportunities Rooney has been given.

Ha brilliant.

The fact is, he has failed to show up when the team has needed him. He just can't create that big of magic that the likes of Messi, Ballotelli and Pirlo can.

Balotelli? Really? What magic did he produce last season (apart from his contribution in the QPR game)?

All I saw was a player who just didn't give a shít and messed up things more often than he produced magic.

Your Airbag · 21-08-2012 05:30PM

Higher wrote: »

To be perfectly honest, Robbie Keane would have scored those goals in that United team with the opportunities Rooney has been given. The fact is, he has failed to show up when the team has needed him. He just can't create that big of magic that the likes of Messi, Ballotelli and Pirlo can.

I reckon hes on a steep downward spiral.

Opener against City in the Cup at the Ethihad. Overhead kick against City in the league. Equaliser against Barcelona in the CL final. Goal against Chelsea in the away leg of the CL, The goal against............ah why am I even bothering. Your post is nonsense.

Steep downward spiral? All this after one game. If he had scored a deflected shot we would be hearing none of this but instead its the end of the world. There isn't a facepalm strong enough to reply to your post with.

cson · 21-08-2012 05:31PM

Higher wrote: »

I reckon hes on a steep downward spiral.

Will you relax.

Your Airbag · 21-08-2012 05:34PM

Your Airbag wrote: »

Opener against City in the Cup at the Ethihad. Overhead kick against City in the league. Equaliser against Barcelona in the CL final. Goal against Chelsea in the away leg of the CL, The goal against............ah why am I even bothering. Your post is nonsense.

Steep downward spiral? All this after one game. If he had scored a deflected shot we would be hearing none of this but instead its the end of the world. There isn't a facepalm strong enough to reply to your post with.

I was wrong.

Al Capwned · 21-08-2012 05:44PM

Higher wrote: »

To be perfectly honest, Robbie Keane would have scored those goals in that United team with the opportunities Rooney has been given. The fact is, he has failed to show up when the team has needed him. He just can't create that big of magic that the likes of Messi, Ballotelli and Pirlo can.

I reckon hes on a steep downward spiral.

:O

MD1990 · 21-08-2012 06:03PM

the Rooney 02-07 to the 08-12 are like 2 different players
Rooney's pace is gone at 26 which is very strange
i imagine his lifestyle must not be the best

NeVeR · 21-08-2012 06:23PM

cloptrop wrote: »

Do people still watch football on telly?
I like this new streaming thing you can watch pretty much any match you want . Rupert murdoch doesnt choose for you ,

Ah ya can't beat the TV. I've a Season pass for Flashsportsstreams and I still got all the Sky Sports stations turned back on.. FFS is good for the games not on Sky but having a match with proper quality and sound ( no buffing as the lads said ) is great.

Mocha Joe · 21-08-2012 06:23PM

Rooney will get 20 league goals this season. Minimum.

NeVeR · 21-08-2012 06:24PM

I've been away all day.. I take it Kaka move is not happening as I see AC Milan are now Fav's

Manchester United Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 12/13

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