Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 12/13 MOD POST #232

Mickeroo · 20-08-2012 12:07PM

2ndcoming wrote: »

The M'Vila stuff is everywhere again today for what feels like the 1000th time this season. I honestly don't want to hear that name again unless he's being announced on Arsenal.com!

Still don't think it's going to happen.

Considering the reasons for Song's departure and what people have said one here about M'vila's attitude I would be very surprised if it happens.

emergingstar · 20-08-2012 12:08PM

2ndcoming wrote: »

The M'Vila stuff is everywhere again today for what feels like the 1000th time this season. I honestly don't want to hear that name again unless he's being announced on Arsenal.com!

Still don't think it's going to happen.

M'Vila

2ndcoming · 20-08-2012 12:16PM

Ha bloody ha.

Seriously excited about Sahin's capture myself, now that it seems to be a done deal. My idea of the "front 6" would be:

Arteta

Sahin

Cazorla

---Chamberlain

Podolski---

Giroud

Not to eliminate Walcott entirely, far from it, but his best performances always come when we're in the lead. When teams are well organised and sit deep against us like last Saturday he rarely finds the way through, when we take the lead and the opposition have to come out is the time for Theo to come on and exploit the spaces left behind.

dvemail · 20-08-2012 12:26PM

2ndcoming wrote: »

Ha bloody ha.

Seriously excited about Sahin's capture myself, now that it seems to be a done deal. My idea of the "front 6" would be:
Arteta
Sahin
Cazorla

---Chamberlain
Podolski---
Giroud

Not to eliminate Walcott entirely, far from it, but his best performances always come when we're in the lead. When teams are well organised and sit deep against us like last Saturday he rarely finds the way through, when we take the lead and the opposition have to come out is the time for Theo to come on and exploit the spaces left behind.

I'd go with that, especially think that Podolski would be better suited down the left rather then played as the lone man up front. Basically something similar to what we had in the first half against Koln.
Think there will be a lot of rotation between between players like Sahin (if we do get him) and Rosicky/Diaby. When Wilshere comes back fancy him to be fighting for Cazorlas spot with Ramsey being used mainly as a substitute this year barring an injury to any of the above.

jordainius · 20-08-2012 12:31PM

dorgasm wrote: »

Yeah, if Mexes comes then I will cry myself to sleep before every matchday. He's worse than Squillachi.

Mexes is a certainty, with Squillaci on the way to Olympiakos we will need to continue our long standing tradition of handing a s**t Frenchman the number 18 shirt. (Squillaci, Silvestre, Cygan, Grimandi... (Actually Grimandi wasn't that bad in fairness!))

gosplan · 20-08-2012 12:32PM

dvemail wrote: »

I'd go with that, especially think that Podolski would be better suited down the left rather then played as the lone man up front. Basically something similar to what we had in the first half against Koln.
Think there will be a lot of rotation between between players like Sahin (if we do get him) and Rosicky/Diaby. When Wilshere comes back fancy him to be fighting for Cazorlas spot with Ramsey being used mainly as a substitute this year barring an injury to any of the above.

Arteta --- Sahin
----Wilshire
Santi -- Giroud -- Pod

That's what I'm looking forward to and I think will be our strongest team.

If that team ever lines out in front of defence containing Sagna, Kos, Verm, I'd get some serious wood.

Mickeroo · 20-08-2012 12:33PM

Did Santi play out wide most of the time in La Liga? I thought he was more a central player.

emergingstar · 20-08-2012 12:35PM

gosplan wrote: »

dvemail wrote: »

I'd go with that, especially think that Podolski would be better suited down the left rather then played as the lone man up front. Basically something similar to what we had in the first half against Koln.
Think there will be a lot of rotation between between players like Sahin (if we do get him) and Rosicky/Diaby. When Wilshere comes back fancy him to be fighting for Cazorlas spot with Ramsey being used mainly as a substitute this year barring an injury to any of the above.

Arteta --- Sahin
----Wilshire
Santi -- Giroud -- Pod

That's what I'm looking forward to and I think will be our strongest team.

If that team ever lines out in front of defence containing Sagna, Kos, Verm, I'd get some serious wood.

Was just about to post the same, serious looking side.
With a decent bench

j14 · 20-08-2012 12:35PM

With Song gone would I be correct in saying that Darren Dein has no clients at us now?

He was the Agent of:

Henry
Clichy
Fabregas
RVP
Song

Fuzzy_Dunlop · 20-08-2012 12:38PM

gosplan wrote: »

Arteta --- Sahin
----Wilshire
Santi -- Giroud -- Pod

That's what I'm looking forward to and I think will be our strongest team.

If that team ever lines out in front of defence containing Sagna, Kos, Verm, I'd get some serious wood.

And even at that if all these were missing you could have a team of

---- Diaby---- Rosicky/Ramsey

Ox

Walcott

Gervinho

Chamakh ----

dvemail · 20-08-2012 12:41PM

j14 wrote: »

With Song gone would I be correct in saying that Darren Dein has no clients at us now?

He was the Agent of:

Henry
Clichy
Fabregas
RVP
Song

We are now a Darren Dein free club for now. Hope now the club takes a strong stance against letting any of their players use him as their agent. Nothing but trouble for us. Don't think he was RVPs agent though. (Think it was Kees Vos?)

Royale with Cheese · 20-08-2012 12:44PM

Podolski played as second striker for cologne last year and managed almost 20 goals in the bundesliga, for a team who were relegated. His best position is not on the left.

gnfnrhead · 20-08-2012 12:46PM

Am I the only one who doesnt think Mexes is as bad as is being made out? He'll be battling Miquel for fifth place, maybe Djourou for fourth but not much more. I think he's definitely good enough for that role.

j14 · 20-08-2012 12:48PM

dvemail wrote: »

We are now a Darren Dein free club for now. Hope now the club takes a strong stance against letting any of their players use him as their agent. Nothing but trouble for us. Don't think he was RVPs agent though. (Think it was Kees Vos?)

I just did a check and Kees Vos is his agent in Holland but he was on the book of Darren Dein too.

Quotes taken from the Daily Mail.

"He counts Van Persie among his commercial client list and Song among the stellar cast of names on the walls of his Hampstead offices."

"Talks between the club, Van Persie - who also has an agent in Holland (Kees Vos) - and his representatives are scheduled to start again over the summer."

So it seems Dein had his sticky fingers in all the transfers that have annoyed Arsenal fans over the last few years.

A-hole.

tayto lover · 20-08-2012 01:31PM

2ndcoming wrote: »

Ha bloody ha.

Seriously excited about Sahin's capture myself, now that it seems to be a done deal. My idea of the "front 6" would be:
Arteta
Sahin
Cazorla

---Chamberlain
Podolski---
Giroud

Not to eliminate Walcott entirely, far from it, but his best performances always come when we're in the lead. When teams are well organised and sit deep against us like last Saturday he rarely finds the way through, when we take the lead and the opposition have to come out is the time for Theo to come on and exploit the spaces left behind.

I wouldn't be Walcott's biggest fan but he thrives on the quick release to get a run on the defenders but last Saturday we tippy-toed way too much around the middle. I have never seen as many balls played backwards. Far too slow to suit Walcott. Sunderland sat too deep to counteract the quick ball to him and Gervinho. Great tactics by MO'N and we will come up against similar loads of times this season. Crossed to Giroud who is 6' 4" and knock downs might have reaped more rewards.

dvemail · 20-08-2012 01:33PM

AFC ‏@WheeLer_AFC

"Sahin expected to arrive at London Colney in a matter of hours. Rejected Spurs and #LFC to join #AFC on loan. No option for permanent deal. "

So no option to buy then? Should be a solid signing for the year all the same.
He has now said we have first option to buy if Madrid want to sell.

Mickeroo · 20-08-2012 01:33PM

j14 wrote: »

With Song gone would I be correct in saying that Darren Dein has no clients at us now?

He was the Agent of:

Henry
Clichy
Fabregas
RVP
Song

Gringo180 · 20-08-2012 02:23PM

Arteta

Sahin

Wilshere

---Cazorla

Gervinho---

Podolski

I would go with that line up myself, I really fancy Gervinho to have a cracking season he is going to tear full backs to shreds and although I would much prefer to see Cazorla in a more central role I just cant leave Arteta out of the team he is so important for us.

Lads there is no reason why we cant win the league this year, we have a wealth of riches on the bench to choose from, Giroud, The Ox, Walcott, Diaby, Rosicky, Ramsey, Santos. In terms of strenght in depth its the best squad we've had in the last 5 years.

jank · 20-08-2012 02:24PM

Still think we are light in the striker department. Looks like Arsenal are trying to replicate the Spanish formation of more midfielders. I think we will be found wanting in this department.

cson · 20-08-2012 02:42PM

Lads, Wilshere isn't an AM, he's more of a deep lying midfielder.

--- Arteta --- Wilshere ---

Sahin

Cazorla - Podolski - Gervinho

Is much more likely should Cazorla play on the flanks.

We've a midget midfield though so you'd worry about teams bullying us. Could be the makings of a cracking CL team though.

Marty McFly · 20-08-2012 02:45PM

Gringo180 wrote: »

Arteta
Sahin
Wilshere

---Cazorla
Gervinho---
Podolski

I would go with that line up myself, I really fancy Gervinho to have a cracking season he is going to tear full backs to shreds and although I would much prefer to see Cazorla in a more central role I just cant leave Arteta out of the team he is so important for us.

Lads there is no reason why we cant win the league this year, we have a wealth of riches on the bench to choose from, Giroud, The Ox, Walcott, Diaby, Rosicky, Ramsey, Santos. In terms of strenght in depth its the best squad we've had in the last 5 years.

While I do agree with you about our squad being good enough and strong enough to challenge, my main worry is cab they all gel together that quickly we have a tough run very early on and with maby new players getting to know each other and the system wenger wants them to play is as different story altogether

We especially need Giroud or Podolski to hit the ground running sadly they don't have time for a bedding in period.

Marty McFly · 20-08-2012 02:50PM

cson wrote: »

Lads, Wilshere isn't an AM, he's more of a deep lying midfielder.

--- Arteta --- Wilshere ---
Sahin

Cazorla - Podolski - Gervinho

Is much more likely should Cazorla play on the flanks.

We've a midget midfield though so you'd worry about teams bullying us. Could be the makings of a cracking CL team though.

I disagree with you on that one Wilshere played AM at youth levels, has been given the number 10 jersey by Wenger and himself stated that he sees himself following in the footsteps of past Arsenal number 10's if all that doesn't scream AM I don't know What dies.

cson · 20-08-2012 02:52PM

Marty McFly wrote: »

I disagree with you on that one Wilshere played AM at youth levels, has been given the number 10 jersey by Wenger and himself stated that he sees himself following in the footsteps of past Arsenal number 10's if all that doesn't scream AM I don't know What dies.

Hasn't played any senior games for us in that position. I'd be surprised to see him there is all I'll say - shirt numbers don't mean a whole lot nowadays either.

smilerf · 20-08-2012 02:56PM

Marty McFly wrote: »

Gringo180 wrote: »

Arteta
Sahin
Wilshere

---Cazorla
Gervinho---
Podolski

I would go with that line up myself, I really fancy Gervinho to have a cracking season he is going to tear full backs to shreds and although I would much prefer to see Cazorla in a more central role I just cant leave Arteta out of the team he is so important for us.

Lads there is no reason why we cant win the league this year, we have a wealth of riches on the bench to choose from, Giroud, The Ox, Walcott, Diaby, Rosicky, Ramsey, Santos. In terms of strenght in depth its the best squad we've had in the last 5 years.

While I do agree with you about our squad being good enough and strong enough to challenge, my main worry is cab they all gel together that quickly we have a tough run very early on and with maby new players getting to know each other and the system wenger wants them to play is as different story altogether

We especially need Giroud or Podolski to hit the ground running sadly they don't have time for a bedding in period.

I think once giroud gets 1 he'll start banging em
In. I'm not sold on poldoski.

Marty McFly · 20-08-2012 03:00PM

cson wrote: »

Hasn't played any senior games for us in that position. I'd be surprised to see him there is all I'll say - shirt numbers don't mean a whole lot nowadays either.

Yes but you have to remember last time Wilshere played we had Fabregas there for that role, and even when he left he said not to worry Wilshere is there. But sure time will tell.

gosplan · 20-08-2012 03:03PM

Gringo180 wrote: »

Lads there is no reason why we cant win the league this year, we have a wealth of riches on the bench to choose from, Giroud, The Ox, Walcott, Diaby, Rosicky, Ramsey, Santos. In terms of strenght in depth its the best squad we've had in the last 5 years.

If nobody else important leaves and we don't get any serious injuries to key players then I'd be hopeful about next year. We're incredibly reliant on lots of brand new players at the moment so I'd be more hopeful of just being really solid this season and improving lots.

City slipped up but eventually won the game the other day due to experience and belief. IMO we'd draw that game at the moment.

emergingstar · 20-08-2012 03:07PM

cson wrote: »

Marty McFly wrote: »

I disagree with you on that one Wilshere played AM at youth levels, has been given the number 10 jersey by Wenger and himself stated that he sees himself following in the footsteps of past Arsenal number 10's if all that doesn't scream AM I don't know What dies.

Hasn't played any senior games for us in that position. I'd be surprised to see him there is all I'll say - shirt numbers don't mean a whole lot nowadays either.

Cesc started deep too, wilshere will def play the AM role eventually

emergingstar · 20-08-2012 03:07PM

Spurs, zenit, and another team in fit mvila
Hope it's us

Soups123 · 20-08-2012 03:25PM

Lads new to twitter and looking for some of the Arsenal crew any of you know what arsenal players are on there and there real tags?

Cheers

Mickeroo · 20-08-2012 03:36PM

Soups123 wrote: »

Lads new to twitter and looking for some of the Arsenal crew any of you know what arsenal players are on there and there real tags?

Cheers

Frimpong is @Frimpong26AFC

Not sure about the others.

Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 12/13 MOD POST #232

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