Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 12/13 MOD POST #232

PDN · 20-08-2012 06:30AM

Galvasean wrote: »

I don't buy the 'short career' excuse for footballers who lack loyalty. They make more in a week than most do in a year. A few years on 'only' £70k per week would have a person made for life. It's quite the retirement nest egg. Not to mention any reasonably succesful footballer, when he does decide to hang up his boots, can walk into a job as a pundit/journo/presenter or whatever. Then there are more directly football related career choices too; coaching, scouting, management etc.
Premier League players don't suddenly go hungry once they hit 35.

What's all this 'lack of loyalty' thing? Of course they lack loyalty - that's why most of them left other clubs to sign for us.

emergingstar · 20-08-2012 07:18AM

Regarding do we need a specialist DM or do we play with one, I think against the big teams we need someone to just sit there and break up play
They will be plenty of rotating and maybe he won't start every game cause he might not be needed. But in the biggest games I think it's a must

Lahinchians · 20-08-2012 07:45AM

we need a defencive minded player like viera again, song looked like he might have become that player but it wasnt to be obviously.

gosplan · 20-08-2012 07:59AM

Loyalty is a bit of an over-expectation in football.

Nearly all teams assume they won't get it because it's obvious for players to move on to bigger clubs.

Arsenal are one of the very very very few privaledged clubs where top level players have had the option to stay and be competitevly renumerated while having a successful career.

In the last 5 or six years monster wages have emerged which means there's more money to be made eslewhere and our trophies have dried up which means there's more success to be had elsewhere.

We just need wages to stabalise (FFP) and to win a trophy or two (new squad) to get us back on track.

But we still have it soooo good compared to others.

Imagine how west ham felt getting relegated two seasons ago

Cole, Lampard, Ferdinands, Carrick, Parker, Defoe etc

AnCapaillMor · 20-08-2012 08:48AM

Chamakh to spurs now is being rumoured, pales in comparison to the campbell to us saga.

wonga77 · 20-08-2012 08:50AM

Sahin is done im hearing with the option to buy at the end of season which is a nice addition, good start to a monday morning, now for a few days speculating about M'vila and Llorente

UnknownSpecies · 20-08-2012 08:50AM

Campbell to us was treachery. Chamakh to Spuds is a favour.

Soups123 · 20-08-2012 08:52AM

wonga77 wrote: »

Sahin is done im hearing with the option to buy at the end of season which is a nice addition, good start to a monday morning, now for a few days speculating about M'vila and Llorente

One year loan with the option to buy is a great deal, 12 mths probation and Arsenal have the first option on him permanently

wonga77 · 20-08-2012 08:53AM

I had high hopes for Chamakh, thought it was a good bit of business at the time but he never stepped up to the mark, cant see that he would be a success at Spurs either though, he just seems too lightweight for the premiership

wonga77 · 20-08-2012 09:02AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yann_M%27Vila

before its taken down!

AnCapaillMor · 20-08-2012 09:04AM

wonga77 wrote: »

I had high hopes for Chamakh, thought it was a good bit of business at the time but he never stepped up to the mark.

He did for about 4 months then RVP came back.

I think we can forget about m'villa.

Marty McFly · 20-08-2012 09:17AM

AnCapaillMor wrote: »

He did for about 4 months then RVP came back.

I think we can forget about m'villa.

What makes ya think that? I would have agreed with ya but now that songs gone could be in for him, well know soon enough either way.

tayto lover · 20-08-2012 09:39AM

It seems that Song's bad behaviour only began in pre-season and I wonder if that was because he tried unsuccessfully to begin new contract talks for a better deal, possibly at the behest of his agent.
I had always been led to believe that he was a model professional and it seems that was the case up to pre-season. There is never a black & white story and i also wonder if he will regret leaving. It could well transpire that yes his agent was behind the pushing and maybe also people from Barca.
Song was NOT always like that so it's not fair to say he was. He's gone now so good luck to him.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2190662/Alex-Song-sold-Arsenal-Barcelona-lack-effort.html#ixzz2423XhIxd

tayto lover · 20-08-2012 09:46AM

emergingstar wrote: »

Regarding do we need a specialist DM or do we play with one, I think against the big teams we need someone to just sit there and break up play
They will be plenty of rotating and maybe he won't start every game cause he might not be needed. But in the biggest games I think it's a must

Agree.
What I didn't like about Saturday's performance was the lack of pace and quick passing. We were too slow and pedestrian. We allowed Sunderland too much time to get back into their defensive positions by slow and backwards passing. There was nobody willing to try beating a man and then giving a quick ball inside apart from Corzola. Gervinho and Walcott need to put the ball in quicker when they get to the by-line too.

GeorgeBailey · 20-08-2012 10:15AM

AnCapaillMor wrote: »

Chamakh to spurs now is being rumoured, pales in comparison to the campbell to us saga.

Silvestre to Arsenal is a closer comparison I think (as in the selling team are laughing their holes off)

stuchyg · 20-08-2012 10:46AM

I wonder with Song now gone will we see a slight shift in Formation away from the idea of two sitting midfielders, would give Arteta the chance to show his creative side that we saw during his everton days

UnknownSpecies · 20-08-2012 11:07AM

Wenger wants to bring in a new defender by the look of things.

Arsene Wenger via Arseblog wrote:

Speaking about possible additions after Saturday’s draw with Sunderland, the boss conceded that he could bring in two new faces: ”We are looking to bring one more midfielder in of course, and maybe one defender as well because we still feel we are short in some positions.”

Arseblog article here.

Mickeroo · 20-08-2012 11:13AM

I'm guessing the one more midfielder was Sahin, don't think we'll be seeing a new DM.

Surely the defender will be a RB, although a defender who can play anywhere across the back four would be ideal. Hopefully its not just the swap with Bendtner and Mexes.

UnknownSpecies · 20-08-2012 11:17AM

Mickeroo wrote: »

I'm guessing the one more midfielder was Sahin, don't think we'll be seeing a new DM.

Surely the defender will be a RB, although a defender who can play anywhere across the back four would be ideal. Hopefully its not just the swap with Bendtner and Mexes.

Yeah, if Mexes comes then I will cry myself to sleep before every matchday. He's worse than Squillachi.

Mickeroo · 20-08-2012 11:21AM

I'm still a bit miffed we missed out on Vertonghen at the start of the summer.

AnCapaillMor · 20-08-2012 11:23AM

dorgasm wrote: »

Yeah, if Mexes comes then I will cry myself to sleep before every matchday. He's worse than Squillachi.

If we sign mexes, i'll be expecting frey and trezeguet to follow.

Fuzzy_Dunlop · 20-08-2012 11:43AM

Here's news from the ever reliable AFCamden. Seems like a great signing. One more defender or DM and I'd be quite happy with our transfers this summer.

D ‏@AFCAMDEN
Just been informed that a deal has now been finalised & Nuri Sahin is now expected to report to the Arsenal training ground after 4pm. #AFC

Marty McFly · 20-08-2012 11:51AM

I'm starting think AFCamden is the clubs own little way of building hype and slowly leleaking the bad stories out to the fans

, he literally got it right every step of the way this summer from squad numbers to every transfer in and out.

emergingstar · 20-08-2012 11:51AM

Fuzzy_Dunlop wrote: »

Here's news from the ever reliable AFCamden. Seems like a great signing. One more defender or DM and I'd be quite happy with our transfers this summer.

D ‏@AFCAMDEN
Just been informed that a deal has now been finalised & Nuri Sahin is now expected to report to the Arsenal training ground after 4pm. #AFC

Wonder do we have a buy option or first refusal option, big difference in both

dvemail · 20-08-2012 11:52AM

http://le-grove.co.uk/2012/08/20/mvila-is-moving-but-where-nuri-sahin-edging-closer-to-arsenal-llorente-linked-again/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=mvila-is-moving-but-where-nuri-sahin-edging-closer-to-arsenal-llorente-linked-again

If you read then bit on M'Vila it is hard to see where he will be going to, unless Sp*rs go back in for him.
We seem like a strong possibility but tis all speculation of course.

HazDanz · 20-08-2012 11:53AM

Sahin will be a major boost to our team, pure quality. I cannot wait to see him togged out for us!

tony1kenobi · 20-08-2012 11:54AM

Marty McFly wrote: »

I'm starting think AFCamden is the clubs own little way of building hype and slowly leleaking the bad stories out to the fans , he literally got it right every step of the way this summer from squad numbers to every transfer in and out.

Doesn't he sell memorabilia items?Players training shirts and stuff like that?He probably works at the training ground.

dvemail · 20-08-2012 12:00PM

emergingstar wrote: »

Wonder do we have a buy option or first refusal option, big difference in both

It seems to be that if Madrid don't want him back next season then we are first in line for him. A number around £8m is been thrown about also for his signature next year.

HazDanz · 20-08-2012 12:01PM

emergingstar wrote: »

Wonder do we have a buy option or first refusal option, big difference in both

At least it seems like we have him for the year. If we don't manage to get the buy option we will still have gained an excellent player for a season.

2ndcoming · 20-08-2012 12:04PM

The M'Vila stuff is everywhere again today for what feels like the 1000th time this season. I honestly don't want to hear that name again unless he's being announced on Arsenal.com!

Still don't think it's going to happen.

Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 12/13 MOD POST #232

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