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Advice for final-year dissertations (how did you approach yours?)

  • 13-08-2012 10:37PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,201 ✭✭✭


    Hey guys,

    I'm going into SS this year and starting to freak out a little bit about the dissertation I have to write. Put simply, I don't know what I'm doing! I've chosen a topic, but have genuinely no idea how to approach it or even just how to get started.

    Obviously I'm going to talk to my supervisors and lecturers, but I was wondering if anyone who's already done one would mind telling me a little about how they got started, how they went about their research, how they laid it out, how they organised their workload etc.

    It doesn't matter what subject or course you did (I'm in SS Spanish for what it's worth), I just want general tips and advice :). It's a bit scary that so many of our final year marks go to something that none of us have ever done before! So far, I haven't been given any real guidelines, other than it has to be around 15,000 words.

    So yeah, please tell me how yours went! (The more diverse your courses, the better - I guess what I'm really looking for us an idea of what's expected of me!) :)

    *Yes, I am posting this in August. I know I'm a nerd :P


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26 Dr.Reid


    I did my thesis last year (11/12). Some background - health sciences, qualitative, interviews, 15,000 words. They were started in third year as we were on placement for JS Hilary and SS Michaelmas and were due in after xmas.

    I found it useful to examine the guidelines and the marking scheme and divvy up the words between each section. This meant I was writing each section almost like an essay and I knew when to stop. I found that the results/discussion sections were a lot longer than I planned so some advice would be to cut other sections as you might need a larger word count (for example if your lit review is 5,000 words then cut it to 4,500). It's easier to add than to take away. Sections like your lit review and methodology will be fairly static and can be done first and put aside. In my case they required minimal changes.

    Write the intro last. Depending on your results you might end up changing your slant slightly as one result might be very interesting and you may choose to focus on that.

    Keep in contact with your supervisor too, I got on really well with mine and she was a huge help.

    I found it useful to set my own deadline for completion just in case anything went wrong. Nothing major did and I wasn't rushing to get it finished the week it was due. I was very rigid with my own deadlines due to necessity, which won't suit everybody. A 35 hour week on placement meant it was very easy to veg out when I came home!!

    That's what worked for me. I'm sure I'll think of more tips as soon as I submit this!

    Good Luck!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 984 ✭✭✭gutenberg


    You're not a nerd at all, most departments recommend that you start looking at some preliminary material over the summer between third and fourth year, so really you're doing fine (my supervisor called me in to see him about two weeks after third year exams had finished to discuss the project :eek: )

    I did mine in history. The first step after I had chosen my basic topic was to identify the primary sources I was going to consult. Thankfully mine were based in the TCD library so that made things a lot easier :P After that I started to do a little bit of general reading around the topic, finding out the essential background and what had been written about the topic before. I should point out that, while I knew something about my topic I didn't really have a very extensive knowledge, so I needed to do some catch-up. I kept a preliminary bibliography list on my computer of things that I'd found and ploughed through the more interesting/relevant looking ones. Towards the end of the summer then I started looking through my primary sources, which is what I basically did until it was due, mixing it with secondary reading when I stumbled across a point in the primary stuff that I wanted to develop further and needed to know more about.

    We had a draft chapter due at Christmas, which helped to focus your reading and writing. My supe asked for a thesis outline a few weeks into term, so that was when I really started narrowing things down and deciding which questions I wanted to answer. In terms of organising it and so on, I could be quite start-stop, in that I'd work on it intensively for a while but when I had another commitment (such as a course essay) it tended to be put on the backburner for a while. I tried to do some work on it every week, even if it was just to do some secondary reading, and not let it go too long without going back to it. My supervisor was quite hands-off in many ways and I only saw him when I had something written, which was a good incentive as it meant I tried to get stuff on a page so as to make a better discussion. If your supervisor is like that, try setting deadlines for yourself, it does make life so much easier.

    I can't really think beyond that! If you've any questions feel free to ask, it might help structure my rambling thoughts! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 639 ✭✭✭devinejay


    I found myself reading far too much without actually writing anything, resulting in reading a load of stuff without realising it was irrelevant, or not being able to remember the relevant stuff I read when I finally got around to writing about it.

    It's probably one of those things that's just part of the learning curve of writing a thesis, but do try to get things down on paper from day one. It will help you develop a clear train of thought, give you more time to learn how not to write, and give you plenty of personalised reference material for when you're trying to pull everything together in the last few weeks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 850 ✭✭✭nervous_twitch


    Warning: TL;DR

    I think the quality of your thesis ultimately depends on the field of study. In Spanish, for example, a linguistic project will be entirely different than a literary one; the former being a more practical, research-based enterprise, while the latter would generally be a more subjective effort. Both have their own benefits, but you should play to your strengths. Linguistics often requires collection and compilation of data, analysis of said data, interviews, surveys etc, whereas literature will just be you, the book(s), and a host of secondary sources.

    I did my dissertation for French this year gone by, and did quite well. It was literature-based, with almost all focus on the works of one author. I'll give you a low-down on some of the things I learnt over the year, most of which I'm sure you know already.

    In relation to your chosen topic, it's important your focus isn't too broad or too narrow. I initially chose 5 texts to work with, and quickly realised that 12000 words just didn't give me enough scope to cover each one adequately - I reduced this to 3 texts, which allowed me to give the books a more thorough analysis (although even 3 was pushing it!) On the flip side, if your enquiry is too specific, you'll find yourself spoofing just to flesh out the 15,000 words. Obviously, your supervisor will give you advice in relation to this and let you know how suitable your subject matter is.

    Know your primary material. I can't stress this enough, and it's something I could have handled better. I kept having to interrupt my dissertation to re-read various things that I'd overlooked or forgotten. If you know your text(s) pretty well, life is a lot easier. Just in addition to this, make sure you've read the text(s) thoroughly before you even approach any secondary material, as it's harder to form a personal opinion if it's already been informed by another, well-groomed academic.

    For your oral, they will ask you questions about your thesis, some of which are worth addressing before you even begin. Why did you choose this topic? What are your objectives? Is this a new area of interest, and can you contribute anything to wider related studies? OK so it's only an undergrad dissertation, you're not going to be breaking any real ground, but if you have a clear idea of what it is you want to achieve, you're halfway there.

    I know it is often advised to leave the introduction until last, and maybe this works best for you, but I always do it first. For me, the intro gives me a plan of action - if I tell the reader exactly what I'm intending to investigate and how, I have a starting point. It can always be edited to fit the final product.

    So yes, after reading the primary text(s), developing opinions and ideas on how you'd like to advance, begin with the secondary material. Everything. The library (don't forget stacks), JSTOR, ProjectMUSE, Google. I'm not for a second suggesting that you read all of this, but if you're smart about it, you can lift only the relevant material out of the books/articles you need. This is where indices and keywords come in handy. Keep your exact topic in mind at all times, and you'll know when you come across something that works in aiding/contesting your investigation. There is a lot of reading, and it can be painful at times, but always have a notebook or Word Document handy to write down quotes or ideas that you can apply to your own argument. Sometimes secondary texts that you don't really consider, such as biographies and interviews etc, can contain really insightful material.

    Just a few practical points. Edit/Format as you go. Footnotes, references and bibliography should not be left until the end. Unlike essays, a thesis can have so many of these that leaving them until the end will feel like a mission in and of itself. SAVE ;) On the hard drive, on a USB, in your email, on different computers - I know it's somewhat redundant advice, but someone I know lost two months work because of this. In terms of structure, give it a logical trajectory. Group chapters sensibly, either according to theme/topic/text etc. Revise regularly, paying attention to typos, grammar and vocabulary, particularly if you're quoting in another language.

    You're starting early (I changed my chosen topic in late November!), so the workload should definitely be manageable. I think SS Spanish has about 6/7 hours per week, so that's plenty of time for writing/research, with all your other study and assignments included. As a general guideline, I'd give the guts of a month to reading alone (taking legible, relevant notes of course), and then start your writing. Supervisors can be a life-saver, depending on who you get, so make sure you give them your written material often and listen to their feedback.

    That's all the basic stuff I can think of for now, but don't worry, it's a lot easier than you're probably anticipating. If you've any questions, feel free. Best of luck :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,201 ✭✭✭languagenerd


    Thanks so much for that, everyone!

    Interesting to see how certain themes have come up in all your posts (things like organising notes and time management) so I'll definitely take those on board. For essays and exams, I've always ended up losing notes or putting stuff into the wrong giant pile of photocopying, so I will have to work on that!

    One other question: Did you all start by choosing an exact title or did you wait til later to fix the exact wording of it? I have my topic, obviously, but I haven't worded a title for it.

    Gutenberg - it's kind of reassuring to hear that you didn't have an extensive knowledge of your topic before you started, because I don't either. Obviously I have a general knowledge of it, but nowhere near enough to start straight into it. I'm currently reading very general textbooks and articles on the topic before narrowing it down.

    Nervous_twitch - thanks for that! I minored in French, so it's good to hear from a language student's perspective! I'm actually going for a more Linguistics-based topic but nothing's set in stone yet, and I might end up grounding it in Literature after all (like picking a novel written in that particular type of Spanish to analyse it).

    Thanks again to all four of you, you've all been really helpful :) If anyone else comes across this thread, feel free to add your experience!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 639 ✭✭✭devinejay


    I think I decided on the final wording of my title about 48hrs before submission, but it obviously depends on your topic/department/supervisor. I was doing an engineering thesis for a supervisor who was far too busy to care if I titled my thesis exactly right.
    Enjoy :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,635 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ravelleman


    Do you mind me asking what your topic is? This is just out of curiosity as I finished European Studies with Spanish major a couple of years ago and half of my dissertation was based on Spanish material.

    In European Studies you can chose to do a dissertation in lieu of a year long course. Ultimately, I decided to do one as I had aspirations to do a masters and PhD afterwards and thought that the experience would be worthwhile.

    I suppose that it was but I understand now that it was nothing like doing real research for a masters' thesis or doctorate. I kind of drifted along with a very rough topic in mind but without doing any real research even halfway into the first term. After a comment from a lecturer about another idea I had but had never really considered before I decided to change my topic completely and only really began working on it in January. At a higher level you'd probably want to avoid that.

    In terms of methodology, I found that it was much like writing a regular essay. First, I identified general books on the topic to establish some of the technical terms I was going to be using and then progressively began focusing my reading further and further to find certain details that I needed to clarify or expand upon.

    My dissertation was thematic in approach so, while in the historical field, I wasn't particularly concerned with finding primary sources. For me the whole process involved trying to explain the link between a much reviled political movement and an equally celebrated social institution by applying the work of a number of different philosophers that I felt were related.

    That meant that I wasn't focused solely on interpreting documents and the like but rather establishing a plausible narrative about how these ideas interacted. One of the crucial factors in this, I felt, was creating a writing voice that was both convincing and interesting to the reader. Whether or not people would agree with me wasn't much of a concern. I knew that much of this topic was open to interpretation so I knew that as long as I didn't make any huge errors in my thinking, the results couldn't be dismissed.

    In that sense, I realised that writing the dissertation is as much about the process - the way you approach it and deal with the problems that arise - as it is about establishing facts, perhaps even more so.

    So as long as you make use of interesting material, try to be creative and most of all write convincingly and with a style that is your own you should be fine.

    I'm writing this in a rush so I can clarify points if necessary but I got a very strong first using this approach so I'd recommend it to everyone.

    It's all about the cohesive narrative.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 984 ✭✭✭gutenberg


    Thanks so much for that, everyone!

    Interesting to see how certain themes have come up in all your posts (things like organising notes and time management) so I'll definitely take those on board. For essays and exams, I've always ended up losing notes or putting stuff into the wrong giant pile of photocopying, so I will have to work on that!

    One other question: Did you all start by choosing an exact title or did you wait til later to fix the exact wording of it? I have my topic, obviously, but I haven't worded a title for it.

    Gutenberg - it's kind of reassuring to hear that you didn't have an extensive knowledge of your topic before you started, because I don't either. Obviously I have a general knowledge of it, but nowhere near enough to start straight into it. I'm currently reading very general textbooks and articles on the topic before narrowing it down.

    Nervous_twitch - thanks for that! I minored in French, so it's good to hear from a language student's perspective! I'm actually going for a more Linguistics-based topic but nothing's set in stone yet, and I might end up grounding it in Literature after all (like picking a novel written in that particular type of Spanish to analyse it).

    Thanks again to all four of you, you've all been really helpful :) If anyone else comes across this thread, feel free to add your experience!

    Like devinejay I only decided on the definitive title the day before I got mine bound :p Of course I knew what my topic was, and the specific questions guiding it, but I didn't come up with the finalised, polished title until ages later, I just had a working title for when people asked.

    In terms of organisation, I just got a giant lever arch file and some alphabetical dividers, and just filed my reading by author: it was manageable because it's only an undergrad dissertation and the reading, while large, wasn't insane. Just a suggestion, but like any organisation system you have to try and stay on top of it and resist the temptation to just let piles build up ;)

    And yep, like you I knew a good bit about the wider context but the specifics of the institution I was studying I only vaguely knew, so I focused my reading on the general books on it, which were thankfully few! It did mean that as I went on and became more and more specialised, I found that there was very little, if any, secondary material for what I was writing on (:eek:) but it did mean my secondary reading 'to read' list wasn't too crazy. It was scary at times because my supervisor, after the first month or two, knew less than me plus he didn't read the language that my sources were in, so I really was stumbling along as best I could.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 239 ✭✭Gae


    Ravelleman wrote: »
    I kind of drifted along with a very rough topic in mind but without doing any real research even halfway into the first term. After a comment from a lecturer about another idea I had but had never really considered before I decided to change my topic completely and only really began working on it in January. At a higher level you'd probably want to avoid that.

    Even at this level, you most certainly should try to avoid that!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,635 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ravelleman


    Gae wrote: »

    Even at this level, you most certainly should try to avoid that!

    You can still do very well even if you leave it late. I wasn't too concerned by preparing draft chapters and the like. You can begin as early as you like but if the quality is low or it reads badly it's immaterial. That would be my biggest worry.

    One of the best decisions I made was to buy a high quality notebook for all my notes and references and to leave my laptop at home when reading. Going back to basics made me much more efficient.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,201 ✭✭✭languagenerd


    Ravelleman wrote: »
    Do you mind me asking what your topic is? This is just out of curiosity as I finished European Studies with Spanish major a couple of years ago and half of my dissertation was based on Spanish material.

    It's a sociolinguistics one, based on the language situation in Menorca. (they all speak a Menorquín dialect of Catalan, as well as standard Catalan and standard Spanish). I haven't picked an exact area to focus on yet - could go with attitudes towards each language, or linguistic education, or study the dialect in depth. It'll probably involve a bit of fieldwork/surveys too.

    I have a horrible feeling that it'll turn out to be very difficult, but it was that or literature... and I really didn't want to do a literature-based one. I'm gonna start by getting all the background information and seeing what I can do from there. My supervisor is muy enthuasiastic about it, so that's something!

    Thanks all for the advice! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 97 ✭✭AKeenan348


    Hi,

    I'm about to start my 10, 000 word dissertation in International Relations next month. I have my research topic on an International social problem, and I have a decent plan around it sorted, except for methodology. I want to do mixed methods, like content analysis, discourse analysis and empirical data, as I think the more skills I show in methods, the higher the mark I'll get. Obviously, it'll be down to conclusions, goals reached, hypothesis and the overall writing of it as well.
    I'm ok on most of it, but my main worry is the methodology. If I do all three methods, would this be confused? Do I have to put in analysis of some sort in every chapter? Or will all three use my word count limit? Could I afford to leave out content analysis altogether, as it seems the word count will be huge. Well over the limit. I've been told by one of my lecturers that I have to find a balance and to make sure the methodology helps me answer my research questions. Thanks so much for any advice in advance


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29 longford101


    I would attend the career service workshops! they can be excellent sources of information. Get as much advise of your supervisor!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 306 ✭✭innad


    AKeenan348 wrote: »
    Hi,

    I'm about to start my 10, 000 word dissertation in International Relations next month. I have my research topic on an International social problem, and I have a decent plan around it sorted, except for methodology. I want to do mixed methods, like content analysis, discourse analysis and empirical data, as I think the more skills I show in methods, the higher the mark I'll get. Obviously, it'll be down to conclusions, goals reached, hypothesis and the overall writing of it as well.
    I'm ok on most of it, but my main worry is the methodology. If I do all three methods, would this be confused? Do I have to put in analysis of some sort in every chapter? Or will all three use my word count limit? Could I afford to leave out content analysis altogether, as it seems the word count will be huge. Well over the limit. I've been told by one of my lecturers that I have to find a balance and to make sure the methodology helps me answer my research questions. Thanks so much for any advice in advance

    The real skill is matching your methods to your aims and research questions - what is the best way to address your aim? What methods are the most appropriate to answer your research questions? Then look at the resources you have available - in your case this will come down to time and money. Do you have the time to utilise three different methods? You already have an idea that your word count won't be sufficient. Obviously you will need to discuss this with your supervisor, but my sense is that you are trying to do too much. Will doing three things badly (not having enough time or words to discuss each in sufficient depth and detail) get you more marks than doing one thing really well? I suspect not, but again, you will need to have these discussions with your supervisor.

    Best of luck!


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