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So I'm going taxiing and

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,930 ✭✭✭Terrontress


    See a few uk wat scudos in use with built in light, but familiar irish type has a clear specification

    They have a few taxi specific features like lights above the rear doors which warn of people exiting the side doors, security screens, hard wearing interiors, microphone to speak to driver, ventilation controls for the back.

    That is the sort of taxi we should be getting in Dublin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    They have a few taxi specific features like lights above the rear doors which warn of people exiting the side doors, security screens, hard wearing interiors, microphone to speak to driver, ventilation controls for the back.

    That is the sort of taxi we should be getting in Dublin.

    As stated

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=80217706&postcount=53


    As long as it complies with them and you think you can recoup the investment there's no problem, however if it doesn't meet the specs maybe you'd better ring the minister


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,555 ✭✭✭antiskeptic


    any pros and cons for the prius or civic hybrid saloon ?


    Bloke I know picked up a Prius in England for taxiing. He reckoned the extra mpg (over Avensisis/Octavias) would allow him to cruise around for a fayre when others would park up at the rank.

    Dunno if the idea worked or not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,871 ✭✭✭Karen23


    before anyone else:

    What are you doing dat for?

    The Noigerians have de biz ruined.

    You'll have to work 19 hours a day, 7 days a week for de same money as dole.

    You won't be able to afford breakfast rolls.

    You have to spend 4 hours in de kesh for a job to de airport Radisson and you're not allowed to verbally abuse your customer for asking to go dere.
    Karen23 wrote: »
    They use some lovely cars for Taxis though , I've seen them driving top of the range Merc's , BMW's even Bentleys & Chrysler's
    Who? The Nigerians?

    I'd imagine they use the same cars as anyone else. Plenty driving scrap, some driving the luxurious ones you mention and the bulk in Avensis, Octavia and Mondeo.


    I'm sure they do but I did notice that most of the really nice taxis I've been in have had black drivers


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,073 ✭✭✭Pottler


    seat covers ftw btw.....

    so i agree with what most people say here (apart from those saying dont be a taxi driver, its all shoite and blacks etc... dont care, not listening to crap)

    i do want my car to be some what different from a avensis or octy and have all the same great pros of reliability, space etc.

    as i say im buying a used taxi in full, so maybe some of ye can browse around and find something interesting.

    tax is all the same and just has to be daysul or hybrid. :)
    After a year of PSV driving, you might wish you listened. I know you are enthusiastic now, first flush and all that, but the only people making a living wage from Taxi'ing are those with repeat contracts and an established regular clientel. If you are just going to be on the rank, my sincere advice is to wake up to reality. I have a PSV, no longer use it, but I know two people I will give you as examples. 1 is a woman, 1 is a lad. The woman does not go near ranks or street pick-ups, she has a small but loyal executive clientel, drives a brand new VW mini suv- 4wd and makes a superb living ferrying the same few people around on regular trips, collecting their children and wives etc and acting in general as an ultra reliable "chauffeur" available at all hours for airport runs etc.
    The lad I know has a Merc 4wd and hates Taxi-ing with a passion as he has lost his trousers at it. He works airports and ranks. Unless you have the connections and personality to become like that girl I know, Taxiing these days can be a soul destroying business where you struggle to meet the overheads and spend your days frustrated and bored. Anyway, best of luck and really, once it is fresh and reliable, I don't think the car's that important.:) Oh and by the way, that girl is an absolutely unreal driver, smooth, fast and knows her way around. Fairly goodlooking as well, which helps. :-)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,930 ✭✭✭Terrontress


    Karen23 wrote: »
    before anyone else:

    What are you doing dat for?

    The Noigerians have de biz ruined.

    You'll have to work 19 hours a day, 7 days a week for de same money as dole.

    You won't be able to afford breakfast rolls.

    You have to spend 4 hours in de kesh for a job to de airport Radisson and you're not allowed to verbally abuse your customer for asking to go dere.
    Karen23 wrote: »
    They use some lovely cars for Taxis though , I've seen them driving top of the range Merc's , BMW's even Bentleys & Chrysler's
    Who? The Nigerians?

    I'd imagine they use the same cars as anyone else. Plenty driving scrap, some driving the luxurious ones you mention and the bulk in Avensis, Octavia and Mondeo.


    I'm sure they do but I did notice that most of the really nice taxis I've been in have had black drivers

    Cool.

    If someone puts the effort in to providing a decent car, they deserve the work.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 430 ✭✭cgal093


    Wouldn't be buying a Merc or BMW if I was using it for taxi work! I wouldn't like anyone puking in my 98 Astra estate never mind a Merc or BMW. Plus, its gonna look a bit rough after a while..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,930 ✭✭✭Terrontress


    Spook_ie wrote: »
    They have a few taxi specific features like lights above the rear doors which warn of people exiting the side doors, security screens, hard wearing interiors, microphone to speak to driver, ventilation controls for the back.

    That is the sort of taxi we should be getting in Dublin.

    As stated

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=80217706&postcount=53


    As long as it complies with them and you think you can recoup the investment there's no problem, however if it doesn't meet the specs maybe you'd better ring the minister

    What about one of these motors Spook_ie?

    http://www.mercury-ireland.com/?p=445

    Peugeot Teepee Expert.

    Look at the amount of kit in it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    What about one of these motors Spook_ie?

    http://www.mercury-ireland.com/?p=445

    Peugeot Teepee Expert.

    Look at the amount of kit in it!

    Not bad, but €15119 still a lot of dough to recoup by Dec 2016 when it hits 9 years old, plus you'd still need to ensure it complied with

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=80217706&postcount=53

    Which on the grounds that it's configurable for 8 or 7 passengers, and that Wheel Chair access is by either of the 2 two sliding doors( allowed) or rear door (not allowed) you'd wanna be sure before handing over yer monies

    Anyways back to OP, again too old


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    Pottler wrote: »
    After a year of PSV driving, you might wish you listened. I know you are enthusiastic now, first flush and all that, but the only people making a living wage from Taxi'ing are those with repeat contracts and an established regular clientel. If you are just going to be on the rank, my sincere advice is to wake up to reality. I have a PSV, no longer use it, but I know two people I will give you as examples. 1 is a woman, 1 is a lad. The woman does not go near ranks or street pick-ups, she has a small but loyal executive clientel, drives a brand new VW mini suv- 4wd and makes a superb living ferrying the same few people around on regular trips, collecting their children and wives etc and acting in general as an ultra reliable "chauffeur" available at all hours for airport runs etc.
    The lad I know has a Merc 4wd and hates Taxi-ing with a passion as he has lost his trousers at it. He works airports and ranks. Unless you have the connections and personality to become like that girl I know, Taxiing these days can be a soul destroying business where you struggle to meet the overheads and spend your days frustrated and bored. Anyway, best of luck and really, once it is fresh and reliable, I don't think the car's that important.:) Oh and by the way, that girl is an absolutely unreal driver, smooth, fast and knows her way around. Fairly goodlooking as well, which helps. :-)


    Yeah but that's the crux, I doubt she is making it from charging taxi fares to her clientele even if she has a plate on it


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74 ✭✭Just Jack


    Marcusm wrote: »
    Shaunie306 wrote: »
    e39 530D High tax but bullet proof and can be bought for good money nowadays.

    Single tax rate for a taxi so not an issue.

    I remember being in a Lexus GS430h(?) which was very comfortable!
    You may have been in a Lexus GS 450h and they are indeed very comfordable but it was not a taxi. The small boot makes them unacceptable for license as you cannot fit a folded wheelchair in.
    Sorry I misread Lexus GS430h(?) for GS450h which is the hybrid. You must mean the LS 430, a top of the range petrol car, very nice, but not practical for taxi, in my opinion anyway.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,796 ✭✭✭GERMAN ROCKS


    how about a renault fluence top spec model? should be got fairly cheap and a bit different. there actually fierce comfortable and spacious in the back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    how about a renault fluence top spec model? should be got fairly cheap and a bit different. there actually fierce comfortable and spacious in the back.

    Would fit the bill, but OMG it's a Renault :P

    Actually looked at them myself but didn't actually like the test drive but obviously some people would like it, from €20500 or thereabouts


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,957 ✭✭✭Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime


    just to update this

    since the car has to be less than 3 years old i dont think i'll buy just yet if that is the fact. i think i'll just rent a taxi until i get enough cash to buy a 3 year old car or less.

    btw single, male, young and nothing to pay bar rent every month thats cheap :)

    not looking to make thousands on this !

    But i would like to keep this discussion going as to what would be a good taxi for dublin and what would be different from the octy etc.

    thanks all


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,609 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Spook_ie wrote: »
    Would fit the bill, but OMG it's a Renault Samsung :P

    Actually looked at them myself but didn't actually like the test drive but obviously some people would like it, from €20500 or thereabouts

    FYP. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    just to update this

    since the car has to be less than 3 years old i dont think i'll buy just yet if that is the fact. i think i'll just rent a taxi until i get enough cash to buy a 3 year old car or less.

    btw single, male, young and nothing to pay bar rent every month thats cheap :)

    not looking to make thousands on this !

    But i would like to keep this discussion going as to what would be a good taxi for dublin and what would be different from the octy etc.

    thanks all


    according to whats been said, until they lift the restrictions on plate issue, you'll not be buying after October either.

    So looks like you'll get your wish of not making 1000's, however, whoever you rent the jalopy off will make about €300 a week off you ( new law, they MUST provide the insurance as well, so costs will rise, I'd estimate an any driver policy would be circa 3-5K per annum based on my €1500 )


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,073 ✭✭✭Pottler


    This is like a Ryanair pilot fretting over what type plane they fly. Crunch a few numbers to see just what level of business you need to do to justify a purchase, otherwise just go buy yourself a nice private car without the need to justify it as a Taxi. Drive around for a few weeks pretending there is someone in the back paying you. This will probably prove less frustrating and much cheaper. Get a "Dads Taxi" sticker for the back window if it makes things feel more realistic.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,361 ✭✭✭Boskowski


    as i say im buying a used taxi in full, so maybe some of ye can browse around and find something interesting.
    Iso full taxis for sale. let's find an interesting one with pics.

    and I'm glad we can do a thread like this cos we all want value for money etc as driver and passenger comfort etc.

    Hate to be an ass but how did this thread go from 'any thoughts, recommendations' to the above. Why don't you go browsing yourself?

    As for an actual recommendation. I used to drive taxi myself in Berlin and back then it was E class all the way, but apparently they're not what they used to be.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,957 ✭✭✭Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime


    Spook_ie wrote: »
    according to whats been said, until they lift the restrictions on plate issue, you'll not be buying after October either.

    So looks like you'll get your wish of not making 1000's, however, whoever you rent the jalopy off will make about €300 a week off you ( new law, they MUST provide the insurance as well, so costs will rise, I'd estimate an any driver policy would be circa 3-5K per annum based on my €1500 )

    they must provide insurance ?

    nobody will put me on any block insurance for being under 25 so thats impossible !

    so theres actually just no way about this then :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭Bigus


    Boskowski wrote: »
    Hate to be an ass but how did this thread go from 'any thoughts, recommendations' to the above. Why don't you go browsing yourself?

    As for an actual recommendation. I used to drive taxi myself in Berlin and back then it was E class all the way, but apparently they're not what they used to be.

    Berlin is all Prius now I hear.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,361 ✭✭✭Boskowski


    Bigus wrote: »
    Berlin is all Prius now I hear.

    Prius is rotten though, both for the driver and for the passenger.

    I'm still home at least once a year and while Mercs are not at 95% anymore it's still I'd say 60 - 70%. The rest is Volvo, Passat, A6, bigger Japanese cars, some Octavias. Wouldn't see a lot of Prius tbh, its just too cr*p a car especially as a taxi.

    Hate vans as taxis btw, feels like being on a cattle transport.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    they must provide insurance ?

    nobody will put me on any block insurance for being under 25 so thats impossible !

    so theres actually just no way about this then :(
    6. Fleet Management and Rental Controls
    Proposals relating to fleet management and rental cover a range of short‐term actions as follows,
    − A prohibition on the practice of renting taxi licences only (i.e. without vehicle), while
    facilitating the continuation of ‘full package’ taxi rental which includes the vehicle, complete
    with roof sign, taxi meter and printer, etc.

    − consideration to be given to introducing a new licence to operate a taxi rental business and
    provision for wheelchair accessible services
    − place a system to link SPSV licensed drivers to particular vehicles on a continually updated
    basis
    − introduce arrangements with the insurance industry to enable the real time monitoring and
    on‐going verification of the insurance status of SPSV licence holders
    − introduce a requirement for continuous tax compliance as a condition of SPSV licensing with
    appropriate sanctions for breaches of such compliance.
    − introduction of an on‐line self‐service portal for SPSV operators that would allow more
    efficient and dynamic licensing, compliance and test/inspection booking services
    − investigate, in conjunction with the relevant local authorities, the potential for the
    introduction of additional “part‐time” rank space during night‐time hours at key urban
    locations

    http://www.nationaltransport.ie/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Executive-Summary-MR2012.pdf
    FLEET MANAGEMENT AND RENTAL CONTROLS:
    Action 39:
    To move towards a more professional taxi rental industry, it is proposed to prohibit the practice of the
    renting of taxi licences only (i.e. without vehicle), while facilitating the continuation of “full package” taxi
    rental, which includes the vehicle, complete with roof sign, taxi meter and printer. Additional
    requirements will include that:
    • The person/entity providing the rental is tax compliant and of appropriate character;
    • The person/entity providing the rental has responsibility for the condition of the vehicle at the
    time of rental and can only rent a vehicle in roadworthy condition;
    • The person/entity providing the rental also provides insurance on the vehicle for the rental
    period;

    • The person/entity providing the rental must own both the vehicle and the SPSV licence; and
    • Rental agreements (in terms of who has rented the vehicle and period of rental) are notified online
    to the NTA database at rental commencement.
    As part of the development of this proposal, consideration will be given to introducing a new licence to
    operate a taxi rental business, without which it would be illegal to rent out taxis. Consideration will be
    given to the encouragement of the availability of WAVs in rental fleets.

    http://www.nationaltransport.ie/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Appendix-V-Taxi-Regulation-Review-List-of-Recommended-Actions.pdf


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    Pottler wrote: »
    This is like a Ryanair pilot fretting over what type plane they fly. Crunch a few numbers to see just what level of business you need to do to justify a purchase, otherwise just go buy yourself a nice private car without the need to justify it as a Taxi. Drive around for a few weeks pretending there is someone in the back paying you. This will probably prove less frustrating and much cheaper. Get a "Dads Taxi" sticker for the back window if it makes things feel more realistic.

    Yeah but I'm sure they have planes that they'd prefer to fly over another ( assuming they were trained of course ) Boeing over Airbus for example


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,073 ✭✭✭Pottler


    Spook_ie wrote: »
    Yeah but I'm sure they have planes that they'd prefer to fly over another ( assuming they were trained of course ) Boeing over Airbus for example
    I know, and I agree, but in fairness I'm a bit of a cynic -plus you have to agree that it's not the best time to get into the taxi business and really, what car you drive is not the biggie, how you can make a living is the crux.:(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 801 ✭✭✭Wicklowandy


    You have to be 25 to hold a self employed psv licence


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    You have to be 25 to hold a self employed psv licence


    Don't think that's the case any longer, no reference to age on the applications


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 801 ✭✭✭Wicklowandy


    Sorry, rules must have changed in the last few years


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 430 ✭✭cgal093


    Spook_ie wrote: »
    according to whats been said, until they lift the restrictions on plate issue, you'll not be buying after October either.

    So looks like you'll get your wish of not making 1000's, however, whoever you rent the jalopy off will make about €300 a week off you ( new law, they MUST provide the insurance as well, so costs will rise, I'd estimate an any driver policy would be circa 3-5K per annum based on my €1500 )

    Eh, my dad was renting a 06 Vectra taxi for €170 per week with insurance, before that he was renting a 07 Focus saloon for €180 per week.

    Those two were sometime this year too


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    cgal093 wrote: »
    Eh, my dad was renting a 06 Vectra taxi for €170 per week with insurance, before that he was renting a 07 Focus saloon for €180 per week.

    Those two were sometime this year too


    Getting a good deal then I reckon, search donedeal under taxi rental, majority seem to state insurance can be provided/arranged and average price seems to be around 150-175


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 430 ✭✭cgal093


    Spook_ie wrote: »
    Getting a good deal then I reckon, search donedeal under taxi rental, majority seem to state insurance can be provided/arranged and average price seems to be around 150-175

    Gumtree.ie my good man :)


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