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Clean driving licence?

  • 13-08-2012 09:59PM
    #1
    blindside88
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,959 ✭✭✭


    Hey guys

    Just wondering can anyone tell me if a clean licence is a licence with no endorsements. If you had penalty points would this mean you didn't have a clean licence?

    Thanks in advance


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  • #2
    MugMugs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,871 ✭✭✭✭MugMugs


    blindside88 wrote: »
    Hey guys

    Just wondering can anyone tell me if a clean licence is a licence with no endorsements. If you had penalty points would this mean you didn't have a clean licence?

    Thanks in advance
    Clean - no.endorsements.


  • #3
    readytosnap
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,329 ✭✭✭readytosnap


    if you have penalty points then you do not have a clean licence.


  • #4
    blindside88
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,959 ✭✭✭blindside88


    Is there an actual definition?


  • #5
    readytosnap
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,329 ✭✭✭readytosnap


    what more do you need? if its "clean" it means there are no points or endorsements on the licence.
    if there are points or endorsements then it is not "clean"
    i don't know if that is acceptable as a legal definition but it's really not that complicated is it?
    ask over on the legal pages if in doubt.


  • #6
    blindside88
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,959 ✭✭✭blindside88


    readytosnap wrote: »
    what more do you need? if its "clean" it means there are no points or endorsements on the licence.
    if there are points or endorsements then it is not "clean"
    i don't know if that is acceptable as a legal definition but it's really not that complicated is it?
    ask over on the legal pages if in doubt.


    just asking because the first reply said no endorsements only. Thanks for the reply


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  • #7
    ABajaninCork
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,411 ✭✭✭ABajaninCork


    I did wonder if the OP was serious. But surely, if you have penalty points then the licence is endorsed....


  • #8
    Jimbob 83
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,030 ✭✭✭Jimbob 83


    Throw it in the bath with abit of Dettol or Cillet bang, will get them points right out


  • #9
    Mycroft H
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,306 ✭✭✭Mycroft H


    Anytime I've inquired its a licence free from endorsements without a ridiculous amount of points


  • #10
    slimjimmc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,783 ✭✭✭slimjimmc


    ABajaninCork wrote: »
    I did wonder if the OP was serious. But surely, if you have penalty points then the licence is endorsed....

    Seems so (link)
    Endorsement
    An endorsement is basically a record that gives details of your motoring convictions. It is not physically recorded on your driving licence. Instead your driving licence record is held on the National Vehicle and Driver File operated by the Department of Transport, Tourism and Sport.

    The penalty points system of endorsement is also by entry in the licence record. Endorsements remain on your licence record for 3 years and must be notified to your insurance company when applying for motor insurance. Endorsements on your licence record will often lead to an increase in your motor insurance premium. Second or subsequent endorsements often result in disqualification from driving.


  • #11
    biko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,104 ✭✭✭✭biko


    If an employer asks for someone with a clean licence I cannot think that he means anything but a licence without points.


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  • #12
    im invisible
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,372 ✭✭✭im invisible


    Had mine in the back pocket of my jeans that went into the wash, it was fairly clean after that...


  • #13
    Thatnastyboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,254 ✭✭✭Thatnastyboy


    biko wrote: »
    If an employer asks for someone with a clean licence I cannot think that he means anything but a licence without points.

    My employer asked me when i started, I said "well ive a few points" they said "nah endorsements etc is all that matters, never mind points, unless you've 10"


  • #14
    slimjimmc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,783 ✭✭✭slimjimmc


    Thatnastyboy wrote: »
    My employer asked me when i started, I said "well ive a few points" they said "nah endorsements etc is all that matters, never mind points, unless you've 10"

    So what he's looking for are court convictions I presume.


  • #15
    Thatnastyboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,254 ✭✭✭Thatnastyboy


    slimjimmc wrote: »
    So what he's looking for are court convictions I presume.

    Id presume so, bans and the like.. neither they or i elaborated beyond me stating that i had points..


  • #16
    goz83
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,850 ✭✭✭goz83


    clean = no points, or endorsements, or anything of the like. You could spill guinness on it and it would be considered clean, unless you go out driving with a few guinness in your belly and get caught...then you got yourself a dirty license. Hope that explains it.


  • #17
    Our man in Havana
    Closed Accounts Posts: 29,466 ✭✭✭✭Our man in Havana


    Clean licence is an old expression where if you had an endorsement it was a big dirty stamp on your licence so not clean.


  • #18
    MugMugs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,871 ✭✭✭✭MugMugs


    readytosnap wrote: »
    if you have penalty points then you do not have a clean licence.

    Under the term of enquiry, you actually do.
    blindside88 wrote: »
    Is there an actual definition?

    No, just a saying going back a few years.
    biko wrote: »
    If an employer asks for someone with a clean licence I cannot think that he means anything but a licence without points.

    He does. It's relative to endorsements.
    Thatnastyboy wrote: »
    My employer asked me when i started, I said "well ive a few points" they said "nah endorsements etc is all that matters, never mind points, unless you've 10"
    Our man in Havana wrote: »
    Clean licence is an old expression where if you had an endorsement it was a big dirty stamp on your licence so not clean.

    This summarises it.

    Clean = no endorsements.


  • #19
    fasttalkerchat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,652 ✭✭✭fasttalkerchat


    I would take it to mean no points or any points are expired, however an employer asking for a clean licence may tolerate 3 points for example. You'll have to ask the employer if your exact circumstances rule you out.


  • #20
    Doyler92
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,664 ✭✭✭Doyler92


    Jimbob 83 wrote: »
    Throw it in the bath with abit of Dettol or Cillet bang, will get them points right out

    Dettol will only get 99.9% of point off therefore it will not be clean.


  • #21
    Boskowski
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,361 ✭✭✭Boskowski


    I would define a clean driving license as one without endorsements on it excluding penalty points. E.g. no previous convictions bans etc.
    If it would include points (which are a form of endorsement fair enough) one would be hard pressed to find anyone in the country with a clean license I reckon.


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  • #22
    ABajaninCork
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,411 ✭✭✭ABajaninCork


    Speak for yourself! I have a clean licence, thank you! :D


  • #23
    Keith186
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,245 ✭✭✭Keith186


    Definitely relates to endorsements but if you have penalty points declare them to employer if you are going on his commercial motor policy.


  • #24
    Captain Commie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 688 ✭✭✭Captain Commie


    ABajaninCork wrote: »
    Speak for yourself! I have a clean licence, thank you! :D

    So do i, does my UAE license count?? (cause my irish one got points alright):D


  • #25
    guil
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,640 ✭✭✭✭guil


    had 7 points at 1 stage but the last one is gone about 3 years


  • #26
    Boskowski
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,361 ✭✭✭Boskowski


    ABajaninCork wrote: »
    Speak for yourself! I have a clean licence, thank you! :D

    I know, I was using it as a hyperbole, but probably not too far from the truth especially with the speeding situation being a bit ridiculous to be honest. Like cop has a bad day and fines you for 5 miles over the limit and its 2 points the same as if you were 25 miles over the limit.


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