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Should boxing be banned?

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  • #62
    DEFTLEFTHAND
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,499 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Where To wrote: »
    Amateur boxing is a fine sport.

    Pro boxing is up there with WWE and is an absolute farce. Imo

    Is Pro boxing still rife with corruption? I was watching a doc the other night about the pro game and connections to organised crime in America. Seemed like for years it was impossible to have a legit main event in MSG without the NY mob fixing the outcome.


  • #63
    Paully D
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »
    Is Pro boxing still rife with corruption?

    Amateur boxing has it's fair share of corruption too. From as far back as Roy Jones Jr being robbed in Seoul, to the current Olympics where a number of British boxers have been given wins they didn't deserve.


  • #64
    Irish Guitarist
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,736 ✭✭✭Irish Guitarist


    It doesn't appeal to me but if people want to hit each other it's their choice. No one is being forced to partake in it.

    My idea of barbaric would be any sport where animals are forced into competing with each other, including horse racing.


  • #65
    Duckworth_Luas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,735 ✭✭✭Duckworth_Luas


    Stompbox wrote: »
    Boxing has been banned in .... Cuba .... and North Korea
    Hurray! This means that Michael Conlon and Paddy Barnes are guaranteed at least a silver as they were both due to meet boxers from Cuba in their semi-finals.

    Luckily North Korea has also banned boxing as their two entries at London 2012 did not advance past the first round.

    Stupid commies, entering athletes in a sport they have actually banned (or maybe not).


  • #66
    Snowie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,048 ✭✭✭✭Snowie


    marshbaboon wrote: »
    Yes. It should absolutely be banned. But only because sport is really, really boring.


    Sport is really boring? drop down a glaciated valley 3700 Meters above sea level and 5 or6 crow parks in length on a snowboard


    Go white water kayaking down the upper liffy ( in Wicklow) go big wave riding of the west coast of Ireland.... Go sailing around fastnet....

    Sports not boring just the sports youve had access to...


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  • #67
    cyrusdvirus
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,752 ✭✭✭cyrusdvirus


    You DO know that most of the sports in the Olympics have some sort of military origin, don't ya OP??

    Boxing, self explanatory..

    hammer throw... throw something as far as you can to crush some other guys head
    Javelin... throw a sharp pointy object as far as you can. Sounds remarkably like a spear.
    Discus..... Throw something that would hurt, lots....
    Pole Vault...Getting up over obstacles... like walls and stuff
    long jump... being... like able to jump over obstacles, like moats and stuff...
    Running... getting from A to B as fast as possible cos you are either running TOWARDS a guy, or running away from him...
    Equestrian.... Horses running around the place, as fast as possible, getting over obstacles... kinda like a cavalry charge.

    Then there's the ones like fencing, shooting, archery...... nothing to see here then...

    I'd say you could provide, at the very least a tenuous link, between every sport and some form of martial activity.


  • #68
    Logical_Bear
    Closed Accounts Posts: 799 ✭✭✭Logical_Bear


    Nodin wrote: »
    You can hit people in the head on here? Jesus....thats going to make life easier....
    Do you not remember facekicker and facesitter?

    EDIT:Actualy facesitter was on another website,my bad :)


  • #69
    Father Damo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,643 ✭✭✭Father Damo


    Professional boing is banned in Cuba and North Korea because personal mass profit making is against Communist ideals. The Cubans have had several decent runs in Olympic boxing.

    Anyway, fcuking stupid idea. Boxing is none of the best sports around.

    UFC on the other hand is scobie muck. It should be banned for disguising playground fighting as a sport.


  • #70
    BornToKill
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,053 ✭✭✭BornToKill


    Father Damo wrote: »
    Professional boing is banned in Cuba and North Korea

    And so it should be. Booing is unsporting and really has no place outside Panto. There was a lot of it going on at the Dublin-Laois match during the free-taking. Not sure if it was professional though.


  • #71
    Sala
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,494 ✭✭✭Sala


    I don't like boxing, it's a pity it developed as a sport, but I don't think it should be banned as there is no way it could work at this stage. I would be curious though, is there an age children are allowed start at and as a parent would you be negligent if your child sustains boxing related injuries?


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  • #72
    Cú Giobach
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,772 ✭✭✭Cú Giobach


    Father Damo wrote: »
    Professional boing is banned in Cuba and North Korea because personal mass profit making is against Communist ideals.
    Those spring manufacturers should all be shot. ¡Viva la Revolución!


  • #73
    fishy fishy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,456 ✭✭✭fishy fishy


    Stompbox wrote: »
    I'll start out by giving my congratulations to Katie Taylor and Paddy Barnes, I guess.

    I dunno, I'm reluctant to relish victory in a 'sport' that rewards those that punch another repeatedly in the head more times than they get punched themselves. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the level of skill, athleticism and physicality necessary to excel but it's a bit barbaric. I suppose the Olympic variant is tamer but I still wince when I see someone staggering on their feet after receiving an almighty flurry of jabs. 'Protective' headgear does not prevent brain damage (Amateur boxers suffer brain damage too.) and you only need to take one look at the greatest slugger of all-time to see the devastating consequences of prolonged brain trauma.

    Personally, I'd be in favour of a ban. Boxing has been banned in Norway, Iceland, Cuba, Iran and North Korea and the British, Canadian and Australian Medical Associations have all called for its prohibition.

    But what do I know? I wanna hear what you guys think (though I realise tha I'm more than likely about to receive a barrage of piss-blastings and deliciously witty and derisive quips instead. Good ole AH.)

    PS. And yes, I have already considered that a ban on the sport would completely neuter our Olympic prospects but it's a small to pay really, isn't it? Why don't we adopt a more placid sport like Badminton? Last time I checked, the feathers are yet to give anyone Parkinson's (I could be open to correction there, though.)


    I don't think you understand the sport at all by posting this. It's not a matter of just getting in the ring and battering somebody - if it was, everyone would be at it.

    Also, only professional boxing was banned in Cuba and that was brought about as part of of the politics - they still have a brilliant name for bringing up the best amateur boxers and have been in the olympics with their boxing and won medals.


  • #74
    Ush1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,466 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    Father Damo wrote: »
    UFC on the other hand is scobie muck. It should be banned for disguising playground fighting as a sport.

    :rolleyes:

    If you want to ban boxing for simply health/risk reasons then there is many things which are more justified to be banned like cigarettes etc...

    If you find it babaric well that's just your personal preference.

    If two people are game to get in a ring and fight, then they should be let do it.


  • #75
    Choochtown
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,594 ✭✭✭Choochtown


    Unlike other popular sports, when you participate in boxing:

    1. You know who will hit you

    2. You know what they will hit you with

    3. You know whereabouts on your body they will hit you

    4. If they hit you too much or too hard there's someone nearby who will make
    sure you don't get hurt.

    Not the case with GAA, Hurling, Soccer, Rugby, Hockey, etc.


  • #76
    Sykk
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,327 ✭✭✭Sykk


    Boxing is outrageously boring.. I'll still cheer on Katie Taylor and the like but it's as boring to watch as cricket or soccer


  • #77
    --Kaiser--
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,461 ✭✭✭--Kaiser--


    Sykk wrote: »
    Boxing is outrageously boring.. I'll still cheer on Katie Taylor and the like but it's as boring to watch as cricket or soccer

    Any sport is boring if you know nothing about it


  • #78
    fishy fishy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,456 ✭✭✭fishy fishy


    Sykk wrote: »
    Boxing is outrageously boring.. I'll still cheer on Katie Taylor and the like but it's as boring to watch as cricket or soccer

    i bet you love golf. :p


  • #79
    Kev_2012
    Closed Accounts Posts: 976 ✭✭✭Kev_2012


    Is that you Dr. Raymond Cocteau?


  • #80
    Richard Hillman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    "Amateur" boxing my hole. The whole of the Irish boxing team are pro athletes from their sports grants.


  • #81
    It wasn't me!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,034 ✭✭✭✭It wasn't me!


    Richard Hillman wrote: »
    "Amateur" boxing my hole. The whole of the Irish boxing team are pro athletes from their sports grants.

    Sports council grants will not allow anyone to live off them as an athlete.


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  • #82
    mauzo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,033 ✭✭✭mauzo


    Have to say boxing is one of my favourite sports to watch. They all know what they are getting themselves into, leave them at it.


  • #83
    Pherekydes
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    Sala wrote: »
    I don't like boxing, it's a pity it developed as a sport, but I don't think it should be banned as there is no way it could work at this stage. I would be curious though, is there an age children are allowed start at and as a parent would you be negligent if your child sustains boxing related injuries?

    Eh, no. The kids will play whatever sport they want to. There is always risk of injury in any sport. Maybe you'd prefer your kids to be inactive?


  • #84
    DEFTLEFTHAND
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,499 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    It wasn't me! wrote: »
    Sports council grants will not allow anyone to live off them as an athlete.

    Kenny Egan got a nice deal to stay 'amateur' after Beijing didn't he?


  • #85
    It wasn't me!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,034 ✭✭✭✭It wasn't me!


    DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »
    Kenny Egan got a nice deal to stay 'amateur' after Beijing didn't he?

    He gets 40k a year funding. Anyone who thinks that's enough to pay for coaching, travel, physio, equipment, training camps and so on as well as taking the sort of work which will let you train (at a minimum) some four to five hours a day, six days a week, pay rent or mortgage and so forth is wildly deluding themselves. Sport is incredibly expensive. Athletes don't win out of it, financially. In my sport, 40k would just about cover my ongoing equipment and travel costs in a given year if I were making a serious go of the international circuit. I'd still be required to take a hit in terms of the cost of working in a job where I'm away for ten to twelve weeks of the year.


  • #86
    Fishooks12
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,318 ✭✭✭Fishooks12


    What an idiotic idea. Which makes no distinction between amateur and pro boxing, one of which is very safe, and the other, albeit a little more dangerous, is very well regulated.


  • #87
    nbar12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,381 ✭✭✭nbar12


    --Kaiser-- wrote: »
    Any sport is boring if you know nothing about it

    I would have to agree but I don't find any sport that Ireland are competing in boring! Look at what Annalise Murphy did last week with the sailing. I haven't a notion what they're meant to and no idea about any of the rules, yet I still found myself incredibly excited while watching her.


  • #88
    Fishooks12
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,318 ✭✭✭Fishooks12


    DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »
    Kenny Egan got a nice deal to stay 'amateur' after Beijing didn't he?

    He really didn't, get your facts right


  • #89
    Father Damo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,643 ✭✭✭Father Damo


    Ush1 wrote: »
    :rolleyes:

    If you want to ban boxing for simply health/risk reasons then there is many things which are more justified to be banned like cigarettes etc...

    If you find it babaric well that's just your personal preference.

    If two people are game to get in a ring and fight, then they should be let do it.


    I dont necessarily find it barbaric, I find it to be childish and lacking the rules that make boxing a proper sport. Men wresting in their pants on the ground throwing the same type of punches you see outside a takeway on a Saturday night does not merit being a legitimate contact sport.


  • #90
    Nodin
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    Father Damo wrote: »
    I dont necessarily find it barbaric, I find it to be childish and lacking the rules that make boxing a proper sport. Men wresting in their pants on the ground throwing the same type of punches you see outside a takeway on a Saturday night does not merit being a legitimate contact sport.

    .....so outlawing various techniques makes something a "legitimate" contact sport....? Fascinating. Wrestling isn't a "legitimate contact sport"?


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  • #91
    Sykk
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,327 ✭✭✭Sykk


    --Kaiser-- wrote: »
    Any sport is boring if you know nothing about it

    I used to box for a decent club, actually. The sport is boring to watch and it's become worse and worse over the years.


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