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  • #32
    eth0
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,632 ✭✭✭eth0


    kelly1952 wrote: »
    as a parent of 4 lads who take a drink if we teach them early to respect drink we would have less of a problem in Ireland.

    to stop people having a drink at a young age does nothing but drive them underground and they end up binge drinking.

    Great 1st post


  • #33
    Dravokivich
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,424 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    BUBBLE WRAP wrote: »
    jimthemental wrote: »
    I don't see that much of a problem with it myself unless all the young crowd were plastered. As a barman I always checked ID but I also grew up in an area where there was no social life outside GAA and drink so I don't think a few young lads going for pints is as bad as a bunch of teenage pregnancies around the place.


    The owner never even asked for I.D. as he knew them well. there was a female bartender there as well. who asked for I.D. She then refused to serve them and was sent home. By the owner.

    But back to your point.
    I think its an uttar disgraceful for a bartender to serve anyone under the age of 18.

    In the op you said the place was burnt down and they served from tents. Now someone legitimately refused to serve and was unfairly dismissed?

    Feck that the kids are getting served, if you ain't spinning a yarn here the owner is a cowboy ted.


  • #34
    Lyaiera
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,818 ✭✭✭Lyaiera


    I always thought it'd be interesting to see what would happen if certain places were allowed to serve beer, ciders and spirits to 16 year olds, with a lot tougher security restrictions (on people being drunk in the pub.) And spirits were raised to only be served to people aged 21 and up.

    Growing up I was always warned against spirits. Pints and glasses of wine were fine, because they're slow drinks. Spirits you just knock back to get drunk (Although I suppose there's a few whiskey or rum aficionados in their teenage years.)


  • #35
    Scioch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭Scioch


    eth0 wrote: »
    Can you not think for yourself at all, do you depend completely on the shower in the Dail/EU to tell you whats good and what's bad?

    You do realise you are discussing under age drinking ? Should 15 year olds be left decide if they want to try heroin ? Issue is a 15 year isnt an adult capable of making their own decisions in relation to these things. Thats why there are laws surrounding it, and you cant just ignore them because they aint to your liking.


  • #36
    Vohnsom Hofmee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 48 ✭Vohnsom Hofmee


    *Question asked should kids be allowed to drink alcohol on an Irish forum*

    General response: "Ah sure, they'll be grand. Mind your own fecking business, children have a right to illegally harm their bodies. As long as they're in a pub, of course, and not some field..."

    Shocking.


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  • #37
    Corkbah
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,666 ✭✭✭Corkbah


    contact the Gardai .... report the guy.

    the guy (if your version of events is correct) is actively breaking the law for the sake of some profit - if he told a staff member to go home because they refused to serve underage people (you would have another person who may be willing to make a complaint against the guy)

    if the kids want to go drinking ...let them do it in a field and let them try to find someone else to buy them drink, pubs are for people over 18 !!


  • #38
    Knex*
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,475 ✭✭✭✭Knex*


    LordSmeg wrote: »
    You do realise you are discussing under age drinking ? Should 15 year olds be left decide if they want to try heroin ? Issue is a 15 year isnt an adult capable of making their own decisions in relation to these things. Thats why there are laws surrounding it, and you cant just ignore them because they aint to your liking.

    I was. I chose not to drink until I was 17 and when I did it, I told my parents before hand. I had 3 pints and I came back home.

    Could I have acquired drink at an earlier age? Most certainly. Same as I could have smoked, done weed or whatever.

    I made the decision to wait myself, not because society said one thing or the other. Likewise I started smoking weed at the age of 18/19, as it was something I wanted to do. My decision, nobody elses.


  • #39
    girl in the striped socks
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 653 ✭✭✭girl in the striped socks


    This country is seriously getting too nannyish.
    Leave them & the owner of the pub alone ffs.


  • #40
    BUBBLE WRAP
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,186 ✭✭✭BUBBLE WRAP


    eth0 wrote: »
    Great 1st post

    You stated you were a barman, Now would you serve drink to an underage person. To line the owners pockets?


  • #41
    Scioch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭Scioch


    Knex. wrote: »
    I was. I chose not to drink until I was 17 and when I did it, I told my parents before hand. I had 3 pints and I came back home.

    Could I have acquired drink at an earlier age? Most certainly. Same as I could have smoked, done weed or whatever.

    I made the decision to wait myself, not because society said one thing or the other. Likewise I started smoking weed at the age of 18/19, as it was something I wanted to do. My decision, nobody elses.

    I'm sure you were a very intelligent kid but that doesnt change anything in regards to under age drinking. I didnt drink until I was 18 but I know others did as soon as they found a way to do it. The attitude to drinking in Ireland is that its a very good past time and the majority of people do it. So if its acceptable for a 15 year old to drink a lot of them will because they are easily influenced by the actions of adults.

    The reason its illegal is the same reason a lot of other stuff is illegal at that age, 15 year old kids are not deemed developed enough to be considered an adult in their own right. You drop the age to 15, why not 14 ? 13 ? 12 ? How young is too young ?

    Alcohol is a psychoactive drug and it has some serious effects on people. Its not harmless.


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  • #42
    BUBBLE WRAP
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,186 ✭✭✭BUBBLE WRAP


    Dravokivich wrote: »
    In the op you said the place was burnt down and they served from tents. Now someone legitimately refused to serve and was unfairly dismissed?

    Feck that the kids are getting served, if you ain't spinning a yarn here the owner is a cowboy ted.

    Yes, everything I stated was correct. The barman dosnt give two hoots. Sure he only want the money....


  • #43
    jt69er
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭jt69er


    BUBBLE WRAP wrote: »
    So I was at a local fund raiser two days ago, in the local pub. I seen the barman (owner) serving youths alcoholic beverages. (None of their parent were at it.) Which included beer ect. The pub burned down last week. But they had a tent kinda thing in its place at the funraiser. One of the youths inparticular is sold alcoholic beverages on a regular basis. (He is in the pub every secound day.) (Im not one of them youths as im 19.:D) So should I report the owner?

    You may as well name the Pub/Owner,as not too many pubs burn down in your locality every week im sure!


  • #44
    humbert
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭humbert


    Report it if you think it's ethically wrong. Understand in your own mind why you think it's wrong.

    The legality of it really doesn't matter.


  • #45
    eth0
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,632 ✭✭✭eth0


    LordSmeg wrote: »
    You do realise you are discussing under age drinking ? Should 15 year olds be left decide if they want to try heroin ? Issue is a 15 year isnt an adult capable of making their own decisions in relation to these things. Thats why there are laws surrounding it, and you cant just ignore them because they aint to your liking.

    We have a lot of laws that are there for political correctness reasons, to appease a certain Joe Duffy calling demographic and what have you.

    It depends on the 15 year old. Bit of drink does most of em no harm
    BUBBLE WRAP wrote: »
    You stated you were a barman, Now would you serve drink to an underage person. To line the owners pockets?

    Dont think i said that but I'd make sure the owner wanted his pockets lined first


  • #46
    Kirby
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,084 ✭✭✭✭Kirby


    He sent a member of staff home for refusing to serve under age punters?

    The discussion ends there. Report him. The fecker deserves everything he gets. Thats a scummy thing to do. I hope she reported him herself.


  • #47
    BornToKill
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,053 ✭✭✭BornToKill


    BUBBLE WRAP wrote: »
    The owner never even asked for I.D. as he knew them well. there was a female bartender there as well. who asked for I.D. She then refused to serve them and was sent home. By the owner

    Everyone's going to think the barmaid did the reporting. Do you think she will be happy with that or not?


  • #48
    .Bob
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 67 ✭✭.Bob


    BUBBLE WRAP wrote: »
    Why is it that ye dont care? Its illegal, so I think everything the owner gets, He deserves.

    your only 19 and your taking a hissy fit over underage drinkers? id say you were popular in school.

    what 19 year old actually comes on boards.ie and asks people should he grass out underage drinkers? ta fuuuak
    I bet the barmaids shift was over, i doubt he said "hey you! serve those kids or go home begorrah!"


  • #49
    keith16
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭keith16


    I was in tescos one day just kinda standing around the reading the newspapers near the customer service desk while the OH was "buying stuff".

    Anyway, there was a about 5 young lads stocking up on junk food, which included those tall cans of "monster" energy drink.

    As soon as the kids paid and left, this other guy came from nowhere and started having a go at the customer service girl, and in doing so, caught the attention of all the other plebs like me in the general vicinity.

    So he is there demanding to speak with the manager, she is like "can I help you?"

    Yes, came the reply "why did you sell those kids cans of guinness? I should call the gaurds"

    "Those were energy drinks" she replied much to the amusement of aforementioned plebs.


  • #50
    woodoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,219 ✭✭✭woodoo


    BUBBLE WRAP wrote: »
    Sorry forgot to include it. They were between 15 -17. There was about nine of them.

    I was sitting at the bar of my local at 15.


  • #51
    Gummy Panda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    Burn the tent down!


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  • #52
    eth0
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,632 ✭✭✭eth0


    keith16 wrote: »
    I was in tescos one day just kinda standing around the reading the newspapers near the customer service desk while the OH was "buying stuff".

    Anyway, there was a about 5 young lads stocking up on junk food, which included those tall cans of "monster" energy drink.

    As soon as the kids paid and left, this other guy came from nowhere and started having a go at the customer service girl, and in doing so, caught the attention of all the other plebs like me in the general vicinity.

    So he is there demanding to speak with the manager, she is like "can I help you?"

    Yes, came the reply "why did you sell those kids cans of guinness? I should call the gaurds"

    "Those were energy drinks" she replied much to the amusement of aforementioned plebs.

    Twould have been better for their health if they were drinking guinness instead


  • #53
    Odysseus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,752 ✭✭✭Odysseus


    BUBBLE WRAP wrote: »
    Why is it that ye dont care? Its illegal, so I think everything the owner gets, He deserves.

    Well then it sounds like you already know the answer to your question. No need for the thread at all if your that sure.


  • #54
    MaxSteele
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,109 ✭✭✭MaxSteele


    Wow OP that's pretty sad .... You're only a year younger than me.

    I genuinely hope the teens find out what you're up to.


  • #55
    Caveman1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,808 ✭✭✭Caveman1


    OP. Old before your time springs to mind.

    your 19, dont waste your time with starting these threads, get yourself onto a porn site and do what every other 19 year old is doing


  • #56
    Vicar in a tutu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 901 ✭✭✭Vicar in a tutu


    Oh we've all done it (drank in pubs underage) , better in a pub than a field.. anyway as they're so young im sure they wont have the money to hit the pub frequently.. its not like they're purchasing bottles of vodka and sitting out in the streets, lighten up :D as long as they arent hurting anyone or drinking to excess who cares..


  • #57
    BUBBLE WRAP
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,186 ✭✭✭BUBBLE WRAP


    eth0 wrote: »
    Dont think i said that but I'd make sure the owner wanted his pockets lined first

    Oh sorry quoted the wroung person.


  • #58
    BUBBLE WRAP
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,186 ✭✭✭BUBBLE WRAP


    .Bob wrote: »
    your only 19 and your taking a hissy fit over underage drinkers? id say you were popular in school.

    what 19 year old actually comes on boards.ie and asks people should he grass out underage drinkers? ta fuuuak
    I bet the barmaids shift was over, i doubt he said "hey you! serve those kids or go home begorrah!"

    Yup, thats what he said, in a nut shell.


  • #59
    BUBBLE WRAP
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,186 ✭✭✭BUBBLE WRAP


    MaxSteele wrote: »
    Wow OP that's pretty sad .... You're only a year younger than me.

    I genuinely hope the teens find out what you're up to.

    Oh arnt you cool. ;)


  • #60
    BUBBLE WRAP
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,186 ✭✭✭BUBBLE WRAP


    BornToKill wrote: »
    Everyone's going to think the barmaid did the reporting. Do you think she will be happy with that or not?

    Il go to the barman a tell him it was me. As long as he learns his lesson, thats all that I care about.


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  • #61
    BUBBLE WRAP
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,186 ✭✭✭BUBBLE WRAP


    kelly1952 wrote: »
    as a parent of 4 lads who take a drink if we teach them early to respect drink we would have less of a problem in Ireland.

    to stop people having a drink at a young age does nothing but drive them underground and they end up binge drinking.

    This one youth I talk about in my OP. Is binge drinking. the parents know nothing of it...


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