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Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 12/13

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  • #2132
    Sir Gallagher
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,836 ✭✭✭Sir Gallagher


    opr wrote: »
    What happens if he scores 2 and they stay up. Sorry but we would be mad not to take that deal.



    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=79666833&postcount=8230

    Posted loads about this but it shouldn't be forgot Carroll is no angel in this whole thing.

    Opr

    My point is, what if he has a stormer of a season and we want to take him back?


  • #2133
    amiable
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭amiable


    Sir Gallagher wrote: »
    My point is, what if he has a stormer of a season and we want to take him back?

    You can't have it both ways. If we want a water tight deal to guarantee they sign him we can't decide then we changed our mind.
    Only thing is if we don't tie him down to have to sign him for West Ham next summer and he goes on loan and scores 20+ League goals he'll be worth more than £20 million next summer.


  • #2134
    jenno86
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,636 ✭✭✭jenno86


    amiable wrote: »
    You can't have it both ways.

    Someone should have told Juve and Milan!


  • #2135
    opr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,267 ✭✭✭opr


    Sir Gallagher wrote: »
    My point is, what if he has a stormer of a season and we want to take him back?

    Exactly as amiable says you can't have it both ways. I don't believe Rodgers will ever want him back anyway.

    You should read the guardian link I posted. Carroll is a money man who dumped his boyhood agent so he could get a big payday. **** him.

    Opr


  • #2136
    amiable
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    jenno86 wrote: »
    Someone should have told Juve and Milan!

    :confused:

    Did they have water tight deals that agreed to sign him no matter what?


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  • #2137
    amiable
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭amiable


    IMO Carroll will sign for Newcastle for £20 million.
    To be honest I didn't think Liverpool would get that much last week.


  • #2138
    Jesus Wept
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    opr wrote: »
    Exactly as amiable says you can't have it both ways. I don't believe Rodgers will ever want him back anyway.

    You should read the guardian link I posted. Carroll is a money man who dumped his boyhood agent so he could get a big payday. **** him.

    Opr

    He didn't even want to leave Newcastle.


  • #2139
    amiable
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    Andy Carroll wrote: »
    He didn't even want to leave Newcastle.

    Who signed the contract Andy? ;)


  • #2140
    K-9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,313 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Sir Gallagher wrote: »
    My point is, what if he has a stormer of a season and we want to take him back?

    We pull a Juve or Milan in reverse!

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • #2141
    cson
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    @ opr: "boyhood agent" :eek:

    Sounds like some sort of child trafficker than man!


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  • #2142
    opr
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    Andy Carroll wrote: »
    He didn't even want to leave Newcastle.

    I know the poor tortured soul who changed agents two weeks before the deal. An agent who couldn't even represent him for legal reasons but Liverpool at the time employed someone who was director of the same company as that agent who had never done a football deal in his life to witness the deal. The same agent who has been shown over and over to be shady as ****.

    Opr


  • #2143
    K-9
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    opr wrote: »
    What happens if he scores 2 and they stay up. Sorry but we would be mad not to take that deal.



    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=79666833&postcount=8230

    Posted loads about this but it shouldn't be forgot Carroll is no angel in this whole thing.

    Opr

    I'd respect Conn as a journalist but tbh, if anybody came out of that piece badly it was Liverpool. Liverpool has had huge agent fees in previous accounts, this looked liked facilitating more huge agent fees.

    Given that Carroll was a Newcastle palyer with a couple of days to go, had no inkling Liverpool wanted him so much, reportedly wanted to stay at Newcastle, Nah, it doesn't add up for me.

    What adds up for me is Carroll was in dispute with his agent, was staying at Newcastle after a new contract deal, stuff would have got sorted eventually. Liverpool come in with their initial offer of £25 Million or whatever it was, eventually raised to £35 Million.

    In short, far too much points to Liverpool faciliating a quick deal, rather than Carroll knowing 2 weeks before Liverpool would sign him, using his Keith Barry powers!

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • #2144
    LETS BE AVN IT
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 373 ✭✭LETS BE AVN IT


    I can't see pardew wanting Andy tbh how will he fit in his system I would say he rather spend 18m in other parts of the field. Do you think Liverpool will be able to get a better offer than West hams ?


  • #2145
    LETS BE AVN IT
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 373 ✭✭LETS BE AVN IT


    I can't see pardew wanting Andy tbh how will he fit in his system I would say he rather spend 18m in other parts of the field. Do you think Liverpool will be able to get a better offer than West hams ?


  • #2146
    CL7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 684 ✭✭✭CL7


    LETS BE AVN IT wrote: »
    I can't see pardew wanting Andy tbh how will he fit in his system I would say he rather spend 18m in other parts of the field. Do you think Liverpool will be able to get a better offer than West hams ?

    He's already said that he wants him.


  • #2147
    Sir Gallagher
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,836 ✭✭✭Sir Gallagher


    opr wrote: »
    Exactly as amiable says you can't have it both ways. I don't believe Rodgers will ever want him back anyway.

    You should read the guardian link I posted. Carroll is a money man who dumped his boyhood agent so he could get a big payday. **** him.

    Opr

    "boyhood agent"

    I've heard it all now.

    I don't care what deal Carroll cut to come to Liverpool, i'll only go by what i've seen on the pitch. If people want to criticise him for his performances fine but his finances are his own business.


  • #2148
    cson
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    Sir Gallagher wrote: »
    I don't care what deal Carroll cut to come to Liverpool, i'll only go by what i've seen on the pitch. If people want to criticise him for his performances fine but his finances are his own business.

    Bang on there; anyone with an ounce of sense doesn't turn down that kind of money.


  • #2149
    LETS BE AVN IT
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 373 ✭✭LETS BE AVN IT


    CL7 wrote: »
    LETS BE AVN IT wrote: »
    I can't see pardew wanting Andy tbh how will he fit in his system I would say he rather spend 18m in other parts of the field. Do you think Liverpool will be able to get a better offer than West hams ?

    He's already said that he wants him.
    Does he really doh ? Is he just saying that for the fans or would he take him if he get him on the cheap are they really willing 2 pay near 20m for Andy. The way pardew has the team set up will have to compleley change with him and he likes playing attractive ball


  • #2150
    opr
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    K-9 wrote: »
    I'd respect Conn as a journalist but tbh, if anybody came out of that piece badly it was Liverpool. Liverpool has had huge agent fees in previous accounts, this looked liked facilitating more huge agent fees.

    Given that Carroll was a Newcastle palyer with a couple of days to go, had no inkling Liverpool wanted him so much, reportedly wanted to stay at Newcastle, Nah, it doesn't add up for me.

    What adds up for me is Carroll was in dispute with his agent, was staying at Newcastle after a new contract deal, stuff would have got sorted eventually. Liverpool come in with their initial offer of £25 Million or whatever it was, eventually raised to £35 Million.

    In short, far too much points to Liverpool faciliating a quick deal, rather than Carroll knowing 2 weeks before Liverpool would sign him, using his Keith Barry powers!


    Carroll wasn't in dispute with his agent and only decided to change agents when the Liverpool deal appeared on the horizon. Head-sand-bury I don't care but am only pointing out that the deal was so so dodgy and Carroll played a huge part.
    Sir Gallagher wrote: »
    "boyhood agent"

    I've heard it all now.

    I don't care what deal Carroll cut to come to Liverpool, i'll only go by what i've seen on the pitch. If people want to criticise him for his performances fine but his finances are his own business.

    Well I could talk about what we've seen on the pitch for £35m but that would be even more embarrassing to Andy.

    Opr


  • #2151
    K-9
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    opr wrote: »
    Carroll wasn't in dispute with his agent and only decided to change agents when the Liverpool deal appeared on the horizon. Head-sand-bury I don't care but am only pointing out that deal was so so dodgy and Carroll played a huge part.

    No need for the head-sand-bury-stuff? I could point that at you regarding Liverpool, pointless if we want a discusion. I'm pointing out Liverpool paid big fees to agents, it's in the accounts for Christs sake, and reported on because of that. All I'm saying is, blaming Carroll seems far too simple. Conn has his take on it, you've yours, I'm putting mine. Who actually knows?

    All I'm saying is we should have known better if the story is true and I wouldn't put all the blame on Carroll or his agent. A few things stink from that deal and Carroll is the least of it.

    Well I could talk about what we've seen on the pitch for £35m but that would be even more embarrassing to Andy.

    Opr

    Well tell me somebody who does think we got £35 Million worth! Irrelevant.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



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  • #2152
    Sir Gallagher
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,836 ✭✭✭Sir Gallagher


    opr wrote: »
    Carroll wasn't in dispute with his agent and only decided to change agents when the Liverpool deal appeared on the horizon. Head-sand-bury I don't care but am only pointing out that the deal was so so dodgy and Carroll played a huge part.



    Well I could talk about what we've seen on the pitch for £35m but that would be even more embarrassing to Andy.

    Opr

    The only party i'm embarrassed for is Liverpool football club for being rode on this deal. Players are always pulling stunts in this day and age to get the best possible deal for themselves, trying to implicate Carroll as some kind of shady figure in that insane deal is a bit odd imo.


  • #2153
    Jesus Wept
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    amiable wrote: »

    Well tell me somebody who does think we got £35 Million worth! Irrelevant.

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  • #2154
    opr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,267 ✭✭✭opr


    I'm not blaming Carroll but he played his part. If anyone has read enough about the deal and thinks otherwise I would find that incredible.

    My initial point is just let him go to West Ham in the deal mentioned. I don't feel we owe Andy anything and it's a great deal for us.

    Opr


  • #2155
    Chucky the tree
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    Sir Gallagher wrote: »
    The only party i'm embarrassed for is Liverpool football club for being rode on this deal. Players are always pulling stunts in this day and age to get the best possible deal for themselves, trying to implicate Carroll as some kind of shady figure in that insane deal is a bit odd imo.



    I don't think he's saying he is shady, just that the myth about Poor Andy being forced out of Newcastle and how he didn't want to leave is bull****.


  • #2156
    K-9
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    opr wrote: »
    I'm not blaming Carroll but he played his part. If anyone has read enough about the deal and thinks otherwise I would find that incredible.

    My initial point is just let him go to West Ham in the deal mentioned. I don't feel we owe Andy anything and it's a great deal for us.

    Opr

    He was in the process of changing agent for God knows what fecking reason, none of our business.

    It became our business when we put in a £35 Million bid on the 31st of January 2011. We all know it was a rushed transfer.

    It's conspiracy theory stuff. If it is, well, Liverpool look to be conspiring just as much as Carroll!

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • #2157
    [Deleted User]
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    Didn't Rodgers say he wouldn't loan out Carroll?

    So that story must be BS


  • #2158
    osnola ibax
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    I don't want to see him loaned on any basis. Just buy the player if you want him and let's move on. The whole thing was a jaw slackener from day one.


  • #2159
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,227 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    noodler wrote: »

    Amazing the vile that gets typed about Roy here without raising an eyebrow and someone who suggests Kenny should be judged on his time as manager alone are called 'bad fans'.
    No one has any problem with him being judged on his time as manager alone. It's the selective judging by only taking a certain portion of his 2nd spell.he wasn't only the manager for the 5 months of league games after Christmas and medals dont expire.


  • #2160
    Leiva
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    If the £2million + £16million after survival is true then Andy is gone .

    I can't see Newcastle let WHU get away with such a deal if we accept, so I could see them upping the initial fee to bring it in line with our £20mil valuation which would suit us, but for the sake of £2million it might be better to push WHU for the extra rather than sell to one of our main CL rivals.


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  • #2161
    amiable
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    M'vila supposedly available to buy for €15 million euro


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