DJs

buried · 26-07-2012 04:56PM

Crooked Jack wrote: »

I have no idea what you're talking about. It's probably a safe bet that I wouldnt be a fan. But again, were stuck on my opinion. Why does everyone here find it so hard to believe that someone could possibly not have the same taste in music as them.

Fair enough, I just think its a shame that you choose to ignore a form of music on the presumption that electronic music only has one specific genre which is 'dance' or 'beat orientated', I'm just saying that is not the case.

Crooked Jack · 26-07-2012 04:58PM

Bipolar Joe wrote: »

Because it's impossible to not find one single, solitary song made with a computer and not enjoy it. Again, you're just eating rotten beef. Go to a different butcher.

It's not. I am living proof.

Crooked Jack · 26-07-2012 05:01PM

Helix wrote: »

do you like this? i use it as an example because it's just a great piece of music really, and to gauge a starting point here

All those films you said he worked on had great soundtracks that worked within the context of the film. On its own however, that does nothing for me

TURRICAN · 26-07-2012 05:03PM

Just call it a day man.
Information has been shared with you but you have now found yourself bickering over peoples taste in music.

Every man to his own and its music to the worlds ears.:)

Helix · 26-07-2012 05:06PM

Crooked Jack wrote: »

All those films you said he worked on had great soundtracks that worked within the context of the film. On its own however, that does nothing for me

they are great soundtracks that work within the films. for all your anti-electronic music stuff, here's a look at zimmer's studio

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flyswatter · 26-07-2012 05:07PM

Helix wrote: »

saw it, doesnt make sense in line with the conversation though

an open e on guitar, or a c# on piano are existing sounds. the sound on a record is an existing sound

it's the manipulation of those sounds, the structuring of them with others and the combination with other notes that creates music. what's the difference between a sustained c on a piano, and a sustained c on a record? the c on the record can be manipulated into a wide range of other notes by someone who is skilled with the instrument, just as a piano player can play a range of notes. but both start off with the same base set of sounds, that is to say a preexisting cyclical vibration of the air

In the case though of DJ's, they are mostly mixing records that have already been recorded, whereas a more conventional method is to compose from scratch.

Let me just state that I don't have much against sampling. In fact, Endtroducing by DJ Shadow is a favourite album of mine.

Crooked Jack · 26-07-2012 05:10PM

TURRICAN wrote: »

Just call it a day man.
Information has been shared with you but you have now found yourself bickering over peoples taste in music.

Every man to his own and its music to the worlds ears.:)

I agree with you, Im not bickering, a dozen times i've tried to get back onto the topic.

iamstop · 26-07-2012 05:11PM

VEN wrote: »

its interesting because in the beginning the DJ was there in the background
As for laptop DJs? Nuff said.

I agree with most of what you wrote but this is false. (insert pic of that dude from the office)

There is a book called 'Last night the DJ saved my life' all about the history of DJing from Larry Levan and to the Northern Soul era to how the Reggae DJs begat MCing and rapping. DJs have had a long history of being the main focus, hip hop is what started to put them in background, kind of ironically. Hip Hop and Turntablism is what brought a lot of DJs back to the fore.
On the 'Dance' scene DJs from Detroit and Chicago invented House and Techno off the back of the dying Disco scene, originally using drum machines and synths OVER records until eventually the drum machines and synths completely replaced the records for live sets.
http://www.amazon.com/Last-Night-DJ-Saved-Life/dp/0802136885

I'm a DJ, I only use vinyl but like anything that people do there are some that do it well, pushing the boundaries and some that are pretty bad at it and just press 'play' and 'synch'.
Unfortunately the rise of the CD deck and more recently the MP3 DJ software has made it much easier for people with very little talent to fake it.

After reading most of the posts on here I realised; this is AH after all. The place where people like to come along and make sweeping statements about things they know f%&k all about.

Helix · 26-07-2012 05:14PM

flyswatter wrote: »

In the case though of DJ's, they are mostly mixing records that have already been recorded, whereas a more conventional method is to compose from scratch.

Let me just state that I don't have much against sampling. In fact, Endtroducing by DJ Shadow is a favourite album of mine.

yeah but i was explicitly not talking about djs who mix records. i was talking about someone like Kid Koala who DOES compose using turntables as an instrument

that's all

dj jarvis · 26-07-2012 05:20PM

[QUOTE=Crooked Jack;79927709]Because I like real instruments and lyrics and songs with meaning?
Or is it because you're one of these arseholes who has his speakers thumping at 4.30am of a wednesday morning while you and your friends are pilled out?
You'll find that will get on the tits of many people of all ages.[/QUOTE]

oh come on - you go to a night club to hear music " with meaning " ???
people go to dance and drink

you want a magical experiences with your meaningful music , stay at home and put head phones on

anyway your assuming just because some people like electronic dance music, that they cant also dj hip hop , break beats or rock ???

just because you have NO understanding about music or djing , dont be making the assumption that we are all as small minded as you

i played trance and techno at last years electric picnic , and last week i played the bee gees at a gig in Helsinki , in two weeks im doing a rock based set for a wedding - is this a eclectic enough of a mix for your highness ???

your comments are just showing that you just dont know what your talking about, so your opinion means nothing

Herb Powell · 26-07-2012 05:23PM

DarkJager wrote: »

A real DJ will take his time planning a set and the tracks he'll play. This also involves actually doing the beatmatching yourself (which is something I dare any of you slating DJ's to try and see how **** hot you are it).

I think most people can count. :pac:

And let's be honest, there are entire GENRES of electronic music defined by BPM-yeah, the transition there is difficult!

Helix · 26-07-2012 05:23PM

dj jarvis wrote: »

i played trance and techno at last years electric picnic

im sure that went down well with the techno heads... you heathen

dj jarvis · 26-07-2012 05:31PM

Helix wrote: »

im sure that went down well with the techno heads... you heathen

it did !!! all kind go to that thing you know

Jesus Shaves · 26-07-2012 05:37PM

Herb Powell wrote: »

I think most people can count. :pac:

And let's be honest, there are entire GENRES of electronic music defined by BPM-yeah, the transition there is difficult!

Not sure if trolling or stupid

Helix · 26-07-2012 05:40PM

Jesus Shaves wrote: »

Not sure if trolling or stupid

to be fair, beatmatching is very, very easy

Jesus Shaves · 26-07-2012 05:44PM

Herb Powell wrote: »

And let's be honest, there are entire GENRES of electronic music defined by BPM

this

Helix wrote: »

to be fair, beatmatching is very, very easy

Ah i know that h3lx

26-07-2012 05:45PM

Djing isnt easy.. Ive alot of respect for a good dj since they can make a good night out great.

Herb Powell · 26-07-2012 05:57PM

Jesus Shaves wrote: »

Not sure if trolling or stupid

I must be stupid, though I do admit it was worded cheekily.......................

Jesus Shaves · 26-07-2012 05:58PM

Herb Powell wrote: »

I must be stupid, though I do admit it was worded cheekily.......................

Don't put yourself down man:P

Herb Powell · 26-07-2012 06:00PM

Jesus Shaves wrote: »

Don't put yourself down man:P

BUT PLEASE EXPLAIN

I want to know which part was bollocks

Cienciano · 26-07-2012 06:06PM

I think when pubs or clubs get in "celebrity" dj's, it gives the public the idea that it's easy. I was in a place a while back and Jackie Degg (older page 3 model) was DJ one week, and Georgia Salpa was doing it another week. Vogue Williams is apparently a DJ. Who? Exactly.

Jesus Shaves · 26-07-2012 06:18PM

Herb Powell wrote: »

BUT PLEASE EXPLAIN

I want to know which part was bollocks

I don't agree with your point that genres are defined by BPM

Intensive Care Bear · 26-07-2012 06:37PM

Helix wrote: »

to be fair, beatmatching is very, very easy

A lot of people say that but it does take lots of skill to keep 2 or 3 vinyls perfectly in sync for a 3 or 4 minute mix.

Show Time · 26-07-2012 06:39PM

Any old fool can master spinning records or changing CD's.

NinjaK · 26-07-2012 06:42PM

70% of boards are idiots, it takes alot of skill and practice to be good on the decks

NinjaK · 26-07-2012 06:43PM

Show Time wrote: »

Any old fool can master spinning records or changing CD's.

you havent a clue so

dj jarvis · 26-07-2012 06:43PM

1210m5g wrote: »

A lot of people say that but it does take a lots of skill to keep 2 or 3 vinyls perfectly in sync for a 3 or 4 minute mix.

especially if you have taken liberties at the free bar for the dj HIC HIC

dj jarvis · 26-07-2012 06:48PM

Show Time wrote: »

Any old fool can master spinning records or changing CD's.

your right - any fool can , but only a few are good enough to make a living and make their name in the industry - this is where the skill comes into it,

just like the army of clowns in this country who can play a few chords on a guitar and suddenly they are the next big thing and selling their souls to appear on im a wanker get me on tv

and people are giving out about dj's ?? give me a break

anyone who states that djing is easy, and any clown can do it , ill tell ya what
you get a gig , get paid to get to this gig , entertain 500/600 people and not **** it up - this takes knowledge and skill - end of

Dramatik · 26-07-2012 06:56PM

flyswatter wrote: »

A pair of decks or whatever isn't an instrument

You can buy records that have tracks which have a c note which infinatly loops on them, by changing the pitch on the turntable (the speed that the record is playing at) you can change note being played.

karaokeman · 26-07-2012 07:05PM

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