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Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 12/13

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  • #1502
    SlickRic
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    mormank wrote: »
    So the deal we have with Swansea is basically we cannot sign any players from Swansea for the next 12 months unless Swansea wanna sell.. :rolleyes:

    or Allen forces the move.


  • #1503
    doc_17
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    Really unprofessional from Pardew.


  • #1504
    NEDDURC
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    My impression of that is that Swansea know that the players who have played under Rodgers really like him as a manager and probably would move to his new club quiet easily if they could.

    Therefore they put this clause in to try to stop him stealing a few players who are probably on quite low wages.

    However, the new manager may not be a linked to the old players as Rodgers was. Don't know in this case. But given that Laudrup is already buying a few new players another 10 -15m in his kitty probably sounds good to him, given that he probably doesn't really know Allen.

    I'd say if the new manager decides to sell then that contract situation may go out the window.


  • #1505
    Kess73
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    mormank wrote: »
    ya if this were footy manager skrtel would be at city and Mbiwa would be here but it's just not that easy in the real world...




    In the real world where very average players like Jordon Henderson and Andy Carroll can be sold for huge money anything is possible.:D


  • #1506
    missingtime
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    Kess73 wrote: »
    In the real world where very average players like Jordon Henderson and Andy Carroll can be sold for huge money anything is possible.:D

    Anyone else read this in a movie voice over voice?


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  • #1507
    Lawrence1895
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    SlickRic wrote: »
    or Allen forces the move.

    ...or Liverpool puts more money on the table, than the player is actually worth?


  • #1508
    amiable
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    Swansea statement on Joe Allen expected shortly


  • #1509
    Francie Barrett
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    amiable wrote: »
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18984391
    £10 million and Shelvey on loan is a fair price in my opinion.


  • #1510
    Leiva
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    Francie Barrett wrote: »
    £10 million and Shelvey Adam on loan is a fair price in my opinion.


    even better


  • #1511
    amiable
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    Francie Barrett wrote: »
    £10 million and Shelvey on loan is a fair price in my opinion.

    Apparently the first offer was 15 mill and Downing on loan


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  • #1512
    whatawaster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,911 ✭✭✭✭whatawaster


    Don't want to lose Shelvey on loan, but would be delighted to have him spend 12 months with Laudrup


  • #1513
    Washington Irving
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    Francie Barrett wrote: »
    £10 million and Shelvey Adam on loan is a fair price in my opinion.
    Leiva wrote: »
    even better

    Even better


  • #1514
    Francie Barrett
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,134 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    Shelvey has promise but realistically he won't get much game time with us this season. If he spent the season at Swansea and got 30 or so games under his belt, we would know whether he'll be a Liverpool player or not.


  • #1515
    G.K.
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    There's no gaurantee that Shelvey would get 30+ games at Swansea though.

    Sure, he'd probably be nailed on 4th choice but i'd say Britton/De Guzman/Michu would be the starting midfield 3.


  • #1516
    opr
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    duncan jenkins ‏@duncanjenkinsFC
    @R1chJ only what the B.B.C and the times have already reported, shelvey offered on loan plus £10m million pound. aquilani will be sold.

    Never trusted that Jenkins fellow :pac:

    Opr


  • #1517
    amiable
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭amiable


    opr wrote: »
    Never trusted that Jenkins fellow :pac:

    Opr

    I hope he's gone because he's been a pain in the arse.
    More comments from him about taking a paycut to go back to Roma.
    Its not worked out and just to put an end to the whole situation I'd like him gone sooner rather than later.


  • #1518
    Knex*
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    amiable wrote: »
    Apparently the first offer was 15 mill and Downing on loan

    Wait, seriously? :confused:


  • #1519
    Gbear
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    amiable wrote: »
    I hope he's gone because he's been a pain in the arse.
    More comments from him about taking a paycut to go back to Roma.
    Its not worked out and just to put an end to the whole situation I'd like him gone sooner rather than later.

    It does probably mean that we'd need yet another midfielder.


    We'll have Gerrard, Lucas, Allen, Spearing, Adam and Henderson, in a 3 man midfield.

    We'd probably have the numbers but Gerrard is probably going to miss half the season and in terms of filling his role as the more advanced of the 3, only adam really fits the bill. Henderson will probably be rotated in for Lucas and Allen and Spearing should be kept in reserve if we're really stuck.

    If nobody gets injured at all then grand. But they will and then our midfield wont be up to much.


  • #1520
    retalivity
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    Knex. wrote: »
    Wait, seriously? :confused:

    It was 15m plus downing on a free, but they didnt want that either


  • #1521
    opr
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    amiable wrote: »
    I hope he's gone because he's been a pain in the arse.
    More comments from him about taking a paycut to go back to Roma.
    Its not worked out and just to put an end to the whole situation I'd like him gone sooner rather than later.

    Well he's back at his former club today so I presume he was probably directly asked the question if he would have liked to return which he's hardly going to answer any other way with it being his hometown club.

    Opr


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  • #1522
    G.K.
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    Gbear wrote: »
    It does probably mean that we'd need yet another midfielder.


    We'll have Gerrard, Lucas, Allen, Spearing, Adam and Henderson, in a 3 man midfield.

    We'd probably have the numbers but Gerrard is probably going to miss half the season and in terms of filling his role as the more advanced of the 3, only adam really fits the bill. Henderson will probably be rotated in for Lucas and Allen and Spearing should be kept in reserve if we're really stuck.

    If nobody gets injured at all then grand. But they will and then our midfield wont be up to much.


    Allen played that role a fair bit at Swansea, especially in the first half of the season.


  • #1523
    amiable
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    opr wrote: »
    Well he's back at his former club today so I presume he was probably directly asked the question if he would have liked to return which he's hardly going to answer any other way with it being his hometown club.

    Opr

    It's been 2 years of this though. He may have excuse with the latest quotes(I don't agree) but he himself and his agent have been mouthing off more than Dave Whelan the last 2 summers


  • #1524
    Gbear
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    G.K. wrote: »
    Allen played that role a fair bit at Swansea, especially in the first half of the season.

    We'll have the same number of midfielders as we did last season (Shelvey's short loan notwithstanding) but we'll be playing with a 3 rather than 2.

    We're still short a midfielder in the squad, unless Pacheco or Cole (shudder) would be considered for the Gerrard spot, and one injury away from being in trouble.


  • #1525
    G.K.
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    What about Dempsey if he comes?


  • #1526
    Sir Gallagher
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    retalivity wrote: »
    It was 15m plus downing on a free, but they didnt want that either

    That cant be true. Even 15m plus Downing on loan sounds like bollox.


  • #1527
    whatawaster
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    Lucas, Allen, Gerrard first choice. Henderson first line of backup. whoever is left of Spearing, Adam, Aquilani, Pacheco, Suso and Shelvey to act as backup. I reckon that's plenty


  • #1528
    amiable
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    Some peoples sarcasm detectors are way way off today


  • #1529
    Kess73
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    whatawaster wrote: »
    Lucas, Allen, Gerrard first choice. Henderson first line of backup. whoever is left of Spearing, Adam, Aquilani, Pacheco, Suso and Shelvey to act as backup. I reckon that's plenty




    One injury to Lucas and the remaining options are as lacking in steel as they were last season. Allen is not going to play the Lucas role, and the rest showed last season that none of them can bring anything close to what Lucas can in midfield.

    Take Lucas out, and we are left with plenty in terms of quantity but little by way of defensive/play breaking quality.


  • #1530
    5starpool
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    Sir Gallagher wrote: »
    That cant be true. Even 15m plus Downing on loan sounds like bollox.

    Whoooooosh


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  • #1531
    whatawaster
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    Kess73 wrote: »
    whatawaster wrote: »
    Lucas, Allen, Gerrard first choice. Henderson first line of backup. whoever is left of Spearing, Adam, Aquilani, Pacheco, Suso and Shelvey to act as backup. I reckon that's plenty




    One injury to Lucas and the remaining options are as lacking in steel as they were last season. Allen is not going to play the Lucas role, and the rest showed last season that none of them can bring anything close to what Lucas can in midfield.

    Take Lucas out, and we are left with plenty in terms of quantity but little by way of defensive/play breaking quality.

    I think Allen will play the Lucas role, he looks to have very good defensive attributes to me.


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