Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 12/13

amiable · 23-07-2012 05:29PM

Morzadec wrote: »

To be honest I would probably agree with you. He could still move to another top side, even the likes of Man United. He just won't get the playing time in Madrid, especially as it looks they might sign Modric.

Anyway back on topic:

If this was to be our summer dealings I'd be very happy:

IN:

Borini £10.5m
Ádrian (or another top forward) £15m
Allen or Sissohko £10m
Dempsey £8m

Total in: £43.5m

OUT:

Carroll £17m
Adam £6m
Kuyt £1m
Maxi Free

Total Out: £24m

If this was the scenario we would have only spent £20m (which surely wouldn't exceed our budget) and would have (imo) significantly improved the squad, and should have enough cover to compete in all competitions.

I would suspect there would be a lot less wages on the books also meaning if those figures turned out to be correct then there would be very little spend

Morzadec · 23-07-2012 05:32PM

amiable wrote: »

I would suspect there would be a lot less wages on the books also meaning if those figures turned out to be correct then there would be very little spend

Meant to mention that but forgot - yes you're right!

The above is realistic and would be a good first step towards making us competitive again. Easier said than done to get the players you want though, but I'm still hoping that this window should turn out better than last.

It can't be much worse in fairness

klose · 23-07-2012 05:32PM

amiable wrote: »

I would suspect there would be a lot less wages on the books also meaning if those figures turned out to be correct then there would be very little spend

Aurelio is gone too, he was probably on a few bob too so even more in the kitty

amiable · 23-07-2012 05:35PM

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/365888/20120723/liverpool-brendan-rodgers-william-mclaren-arsenal-chelsea.htm

Liverpool are believed to have offered a contract to a Brazilian teenager after using an internet-based scouting program to discover youngster William McLaren.

William was brought to the attention of Liverpool scouts after his video appeared on the website 'Pnera', an internet-based project aimed at discovering talented teenagers.

The 15-year-old has now given an interview to Brazilian website globoesporte.com, revealing that he has been handed a contract by Liverpool, while he also claims there is interest from other Premier League clubs.

"A representative of Liverpool came to see me play, liked it and sent the contract," William told the Brazilian publication. "Other teams are also interested: Manchester, Chelsea and Arsenal. We'll see what happens."

The report claims that William has been handed a three-year contract by Liverpool and that he will travel to England on Saturday with his family in order to make a decision on his future.

The teenager would certainly not be the first youngster brought to the Premier league with little experience as Manchester United signed Raphael and Fabio Da Silva when they were both 17, while Chelsea plucked Lucas Piazon from Brazil when he was the same age.

William has previously had the opportunity to train with Sao Paulo but it seems his heart is set on a move to Europe where he believes he will have better opportunities to live up to his reputation as a young Neymar.

"My idol is Neymar," added William. "I've followed him since he was 14 years old, I knew he would be ace. They say I'm like him because of the speed, dribbling and passing. They put me to play in attack, but I prefer playing in the middle where I can play the ball quickly."

There has been no official announcement from Liverpool but new boss Brendan Rodgers is seemingly ready to put some faith in the youth players after handing starts to a number of academy graduates in the recent pre-season friendly against Toronto FC.

mike65 · 23-07-2012 05:43PM

William McLaren? He must be damned fast!

Knex* · 23-07-2012 06:08PM

Morzadec wrote: »

To be honest I would probably agree with you. He could still move to another top side, even the likes of Man United. He just won't get the playing time in Madrid, especially as it looks they might sign Modric.

Anyway back on topic:

If this was to be our summer dealings I'd be very happy:

IN:

Borini £10.5m
Ádrian (or another top forward) £15m
Allen or Sissohko £10m
Dempsey £8m

Total in: £43.5m

OUT:

Carroll £17m
Adam £6m
Kuyt £1m
Maxi Free

Total Out: £24m

If this was the scenario we would have only spent £20m (which surely wouldn't exceed our budget) and would have (imo) significantly improved the squad, and should have enough cover to compete in all competitions.

You left forgot the biggest "out" of all IMO, Joe Cole. Please get rid asap.
What an absolute unmitigated disaster of a player.

NEDDURC · 23-07-2012 06:09PM

Morzadec wrote: »

To be honest I would probably agree with you. He could still move to another top side, even the likes of Man United. He just won't get the playing time in Madrid, especially as it looks they might sign Modric.

Anyway back on topic:

If this was to be our summer dealings I'd be very happy:

IN:

Borini £10.5m
Ádrian (or another top forward) £15m
Allen or Sissohko £10m
Dempsey £8m

Total in: £43.5m

OUT:

Carroll £17m
Adam £6m
Kuyt £1m
Maxi Free

Total Out: £24m

If this was the scenario we would have only spent £20m (which surely wouldn't exceed our budget) and would have (imo) significantly improved the squad, and should have enough cover to compete in all competitions.

If it was Sissohko and not Allen from the above I would happy with that. I think Bellamy may leave also. I hope that a handful if the younger players get a run in the team this year also given the amount of games we will probably have with the Europe league.

Hopefully we can complete the Dempsey deal soon.

Our first Europa league game isn't too far away, that will be interesting to see who is left out etc.

djPSB · 23-07-2012 06:26PM

whippedcream wrote: »

amiable wrote: »

I would suspect there would be a lot less wages on the books also meaning if those figures turned out to be correct then there would be very little spend

Aurelio is gone too, he was probably on a few bob too so even more in the kitty

He was on a pay as you play rate, so I don't think he made that much.

MD1990 · 23-07-2012 06:26PM

Photos: Reds train in Boston

23rd Jul 2012
After a day off on Sunday, Liverpool were back in training in Boston today – and our photographer was there to get these snaps from Harvard University.

Kess73 · 23-07-2012 06:28PM

djPSB wrote: »

He was on a pay as you play rate, so I don't think he made that much.

He was re-signed in the summer of 2011 by Hodgson on a two year deal not a pay as you play.

NEDDURC · 23-07-2012 06:30PM

No sign of the euro 2012 players there yet. Maybe only arriving in today - not too sure.

That will sure rule them out of playing on Wed then.

djPSB · 23-07-2012 06:32PM

Kess73 wrote: »

djPSB wrote: »

He was on a pay as you play rate, so I don't think he made that much.

He was re-signed in the summer of 2011 by Hodgson on a two year deal not a pay as you play.

Good man Roy. Thought it was on a pay per game basis, must be some one else Im thinking off.

Re the photos above. It's a bad sign when Adam is leading the jogging circuits.

And watch Joe Cole with the tongue out the fat pr*ick!

skydish79 · 23-07-2012 06:35PM

NEDDURC wrote: »

No sign of the euro 2012 players there yet. Maybe only arriving in today - not too sure.

That will sure rule them out of playing on Wed then.

Matt Critchley just on LFC TV now - doesn't expect the players to play a major part ( may 20 minutes )

Having 2 training sessions today

New pitch to be laid at Fenway Park - pitch not going to be great

Adam Morgan getting plenty of stick of he lads for his excited celebration

D'Agger · 23-07-2012 06:42PM

NEDDURC wrote: »

No sign of the euro 2012 players there yet. Maybe only arriving in today - not too sure.

That will sure rule them out of playing on Wed then.

I see Daniel Agger but then again he needs less rest because he's a beast

klose · 23-07-2012 06:51PM

skydish79 wrote: »

Matt Critchley just on LFC TV now - doesn't expect the players to play a major part ( may 20 minutes )

Having 2 training sessions today

New pitch to be laid at Fenway Park - pitch not going to be great

Adam Morgan getting plenty of stick of he lads for his excited celebration

Picture of it here, looks in bad nick!:pac:
https://p.twimg.com/AyfZsaQCMAAkD9u.jpg

PaulieC wrote: »

I see Daniel Agger but then again he needs less rest because he's a beast

Agger has been training for a bit, he was even at melwood a few days before they even jetted off. Rodgers apparently said it was too soon for him to play on saturday with the euros and all so id say the chances of seeing any of the other lads playing wednesday are slim at best, maybe kelly and downing like someone said before. Sneeky feeling he might stick borini on aswell at some point.

Wonder will he do 11 a half again?

Also good to see cole not wearing the number 10 in the photos

OwaynOTT · 23-07-2012 07:40PM

MD1990 wrote: »

Photos: Reds train in Boston

23rd Jul 2012
After a day off on Sunday, Liverpool were back in training in Boston today – and our photographer was there to get these snaps from Harvard University.

Cole looks knackered in them all.

My phone won't even let me type cole. That says it all:o

Morzadec · 23-07-2012 07:47PM

Knex. wrote: »

You left forgot the biggest "out" of all IMO, Joe Cole. Please get rid asap.
What an absolute unmitigated disaster of a player.

Didn't forget about him. I was trying to do a realistic list of players that might come and go, and, realistically speaking, I don't see Cole going anywhere I'm afraid.

Stevecw · 23-07-2012 07:48PM

OwaynOTT wrote: »

Cole looks knackered in them all.

My phone won't even let me type cole. That says it all:o

No he doesn't. yep hard to see much of a future for him either, he was terrible the other night v Toronto.

But he looks same as anyone else in those pics, a bit tired in 1 maybe after chasing someone. The Joe Cole hate is a bit ott on here at the moment.

PFL · 23-07-2012 08:32PM

Jesus that pitch doesn't look healthy at all, looks like a big mickey in the bottom corner. Hope no one gets injured because of the pitch.

OwaynOTT · 23-07-2012 08:33PM

I don't hate Joe Cole, heck I even defended him in here before but in the 3rd and 4th pic he looks more worse for wear than the rest.
He's on fairly big wages and he offered nothing when he was here and it appears he had an average year in France, so the desire for him to leave by all is warranted.
Adam and Carragher get a similiar level of derision in here but at least they can both offer something to the squad apart from keeping the tea ladies happy.

Phoenix Park · 23-07-2012 09:07PM

PFL wrote: »

Jesus that pitch doesn't look healthy at all, looks like a big mickey in the bottom corner. Hope no one gets injured because of the pitch.

Injured.....by the mickey?? Can't be that dangerous surely.

murpho999 · 24-07-2012 12:33AM

PFL wrote: »

Jesus that pitch doesn't look healthy at all, looks like a big mickey in the bottom corner. Hope no one gets injured because of the pitch.

Does Joe Cole take corners? He's not the brightest and I think this pitch could confuse him?

Jesus Wept · 24-07-2012 12:57AM

£14m for Skrtel.

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/food/calories/marks-spencer-m-s-all-butter-muffin-17310344

mayordenis · 24-07-2012 12:59AM

Andy Carroll wrote: »

£14m for Skrtel.

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/food/calories/marks-spencer-m-s-all-butter-muffin-17310344

Am I missing some elaborate joke or have you just put up the wrong link?

Chucky the tree · 24-07-2012 01:02AM

At this stage I'll be surprised if we keep hold of him, not sure I'll be to disappointed if we don't either.

Jesus Wept · 24-07-2012 01:11AM

mayordenis wrote: »

Am I missing some elaborate joke or have you just put up the wrong link?

Fixed now!

dr ro · 24-07-2012 02:31AM

Not fixed.

wonderfullife · 24-07-2012 03:47AM

Re: Joe Cole he's very similar to Duffer in that even at the peak of their powers, they always looked knackered after 2 mins of the match. It's just the way they both breathe through their mouths a lot during games. I thought he looked very fit and sharp in his loan stint, if he can reproduce that form he has a lot to offer still. He'll always be a case of unfulfilled potential though.

ush · 24-07-2012 03:55AM

wonderfullife wrote: »

Re: Joe Cole he's very similar to Duffer in that even at the peak of their powers, they always looked knackered after 2 mins of the match. It's just the way they both breathe through their mouths a lot during games. I thought he looked very fit and sharp in his loan stint, if he can reproduce that form he has a lot to offer still. He'll always be a case of unfulfilled potential though.

Whatever about Joe Cole, but are you calling Duffer a mouth breather?

NukaCola · 24-07-2012 07:18AM

wonderfullife wrote: »

Re: Joe Cole he's very similar to Duffer in that even at the peak of their powers, they always looked knackered after 2 mins of the match. It's just the way they both breathe through their mouths a lot during games. I thought he looked very fit and sharp in his loan stint, if he can reproduce that form he has a lot to offer still. He'll always be a case of unfulfilled potential though.

He really wasn't great on loan....i wonder why a lot of people think he done great?

I would have no problem with Joe being a squad player, but his wages are way to high for that. I dont see anyone coming in for him either unfortunatly

Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 12/13

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