Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 12/13

djPSB wrote: »

Sigurdsson position?

Not really. Adrian is more of a support striker/second striker, similar to the traditional number 7 role, when played centrally, and Sigurdsson is a CAM/AM who would be closer to the traditional number 10 style player in terms of his function/role.

Basically Sigurdsson would link the midfield and the attack, and be capable of playing a role in both the final third and the middle third, whereas Adrian would do nearly all his work in the final third and would be capable of working across the line in that final third.

CL7 wrote: »

Who is this Agent ITK guy? What's his track record with rumours like?

He's been hit and miss but the ones he has got right he did so well before it was obvious. For example he called Borini over 2 weeks ago if not more. As ITK twitter goes hes pretty dependable

I'm a bit nervous with all this talk of Joe Allen for 15million. Good player no doubt but I genuinely don't think he will be a vast improvement on what we already have.

Like Henderson he is another British player we are buying in hope that he develop's into a world class player.

If we are throwing that kind of money around on a central midfielder i'd like to see us move heaven and earth to sign Nuri Sahin.

Fernando Gago has signed for Valencia for €3.5million and I think we missed a trick there. He is exactly the kind of value signing we should have been looking at. Undoubted talent, but his star has fallen give his stop start career at Madrid. With the right surroundings and man management he can be an inspired signing for Valencia.

Joe Allen for £15million or Gago for €3.5million?

I know which choice i'd have made.

Rodgers saying he may send Sterling out on loan this season.

"He is a talent, but he's not ready for the first team yet," Rodgers told Liverpool's official website.

"One of the things I've done over my career is manage the expectation of young players and the reality is he is still very, very young.

"There are very few players in the world who get into a Premier League team at 17, never mind a top club. He has certainly shown qualities and we'll decide over the next few weeks whether he stays and he's involved now or if he goes for a loan period. That's a decision for me over the next few weeks."

Thought he might get enough game time with us this season as not like we have a huge amount of talent in the wide forward areas ourselves.

Opr

Those loan spells can be the making of a player though - I know Wilshere's time at Bolton accelerated his development hugely.

cson wrote: »

Those loan spells can be the making of a player though - I know Wilshere's time at Bolton accelerated his development hugely.

I couldn't agree more and he's certainly needs to be seeing plenty of games next season at his current stage of development. Just with Maxi/Kuyt already gone and talk Bellamy may head to Cardiff we don't have a great deal of options in the wide forward areas. I guess we have Cole back

I thought with the Europa league he would get plenty of chances with us. I think the decision will ultimately be based on who we can get in between now and the close of the window.

Opr

opr wrote: »

I couldn't agree more and he's certainly needs to be seeing plenty of games next season at his current stage of development. Just with Maxi/Kuyt already gone and talk Bellamy may head to Cardiff we don't have a great deal of options in the wide forward areas. I guess we have Cole back

I thought with the Europa league he would get plenty of chances with us. I think the decision will ultimately be based on who we can get in between now and the close of the window.

Opr

Which is why it amazes me you didn't go for Hoilett. Regardless of how that transfer turned out you'd almost be guaranteed your money back off him in 2 years.

Think we were linked to Adrian under Rafa

cson wrote: »

Which is why it amazes me you didn't go for Hoilett. Regardless of how that transfer turned out you'd almost be guaranteed your money back off him in 2 years.

I'd guess the wages were somewhat off putting for lots of clubs. I can though see the logic in us having taken a punt on him.

smileyj1987 wrote: »

I don't think we should go for Allen , We have a player similar to him in Henderson . I just think buck needs to have a word with him because if he makes a bad pass his head drops for 10 to 15 mins. . If you take this out of Hendersons game you have an excellent player on your hands . Plus last season he didn't get to show us what he can do because he played most of his stuff out on the right wing which isn't the position we bought him for .
I think we need to spend every penny we have got to sort out the lack of goals from the team . I think we really should be looking at spending everything on one striker .

I think the comparisons of Henderson and Allen are somewhat lazy. Henderson has none of his dribbling ability, if you watch Allen he always gets his head up to see if he can play it forward before playing the simple pass while Henderson doesn't do this often enough. Allen copes far better in tight areas with the ball. He's much much better defensively. In terms of development on a tactical level of understanding the midfield role I think Allen is light years ahead. I think Henderson is a better long range passer but apart from that I think Allen is a far superior player at this stage.

I thought he did well last night but it's simply retarded to make any judgements on his performance. He had no one making angles when he had the ball for passes and the Brazilian team which doesn't really need pointing out were far superior.

Opr

opr wrote: »

I'd guess the wages were somewhat off putting for lots of clubs. I can though see the logic in us having taken a punt on him.



I think the comparisons of Henderson and Allen are somewhat lazy. Henderson has none of his dribbling ability, if you watch Allen he always gets his head up to see if he can play it forward before playing the simple pass while Henderson doesn't do this often enough. Allen copes far better in tight areas with the ball. He's much much better defensively. In terms of development on a tactical level of understanding the midfield role I think Allen is light years ahead. I think Henderson is a better long range passer but apart from that I think Allen is a far superior player at this stage.

I thought he did well last night but it's simply retarded to make any judgements on his performance. He had no one making angles when he had the ball for passes and the Brazilian team which doesn't really need pointing out were far superior.

Opr

They are indeed very different players in terms of style, but I think it is fair to say that Allen is the far more developed player in terms of ability and in terms of reading the game despite both being the same age. But if Allen becomes a Liverpool player this summer, then where does Henderson go in the pecking order as he is not a better player than Lucas, he is not a better player than Allen, and he is nowhere good enough or game smart enough for a CAM role. All I could see for Henderson at that point is to become squad cover and gives the ages of Allen and Lucas, Henderson could be out in the cold for a long time.

Nobodys gonna see more then 45 minutes tonight so a half each or else an 11 man sub or something that'd be great

Leiva wrote: »

Compared to deep lying midfielders



Compared to all rounded midfielders



Compared to Liverpools midfield



On these stats and at only 23years old the kid is a talent .

Someone fetch Charlie Adam and £8million quid quick !

Born in 1990, so is even a year younger than you thought.

Leiva wrote: »

Thanks Boss.

Haha, did you see the picture of the kid on the tour looking at Lucas with complete awe in his eyes.



Opr