Child beauty pageants in Ireland

Lisandro · 11-07-2012 03:51PM

Plazaman wrote: »

I had the misfortune to attend the Irish Dancing competition of a County Feis recently.

The kids were caked in make up, fake hair, fake tan, fakenails and wore ridiculously skimpy outfits. Talk about Children of the Corn, creeped me out something fierce.

Doubt beauty pagents could be much worse and at least presume there's prizemoney involved for the winners, not just brass medals and certificates like the Feis crowd were doling out.

Although an Irish dancing competition most certainly shouldn't be a glamour contest with children wearing loads of fake tan, make up, etc., the issue here is that child beauty pageants are much more pernicious because their sheer objective is the judgement of a child's physical beauty. Rather than the glamour being a side-effect, it actively takes centre-stage in beauty pageants, and the obsession with beauty these children encounter in these circumstances is very harmful for the development of their self-images and their understanding of what is important in a human. The kind of pressure they deal with and the message they get that physical appearances are important just aren't moral to expose them to. Dancing competitions with an understory of dolling-up is undesirable, a competition where the central theme is who's-the-prettiest is much more harmful.

FishHook · 11-07-2012 03:52PM

I would be 100% against ine of those 'pageants' being staged here, although I think one of them was staged here before. It's borderline abuse, IMO. I hope they don't get a hotel to stage it in, but unfortunately they probably will.

Ellis Dee · 11-07-2012 04:01PM

How sad that children are not allowed to be children, but are turned into toys by their parents.:rolleyes:

Just remember the Jon Benet Ramsey case in the USA a few years ago. A six-year-old who was objectised as few others have been, even by the standards of that sick country. And then brutally strangled.:(

Surely there are some things we don't need to copy from abroad.:cool:

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00820/SNF08SPDA-682_820136a.jpg

The background:

http://voices.yahoo.com/jonbenet-ramsey-murder-child-beauty-queen-107642.html

Stiffler2 · 11-07-2012 04:06PM

ejmaztec wrote: »

Just absolutely completely and utterly noooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2012/0711/breaking27.html

Who are these people in the fan-base?

isn't that obvious.

PRIESTS

Lando Griffin · 11-07-2012 04:12PM

Lisandro wrote: »

Although an Irish dancing competition most certainly shouldn't be a glamour contest with children wearing loads of fake tan, make up, etc., the issue here is that child beauty pageants are much more pernicious because their sheer objective is the judgement of a child's physical beauty. Rather than the glamour being a side-effect, it actively takes centre-stage in beauty pageants, and the obsession with beauty these children encounter in these circumstances is very harmful for the development of their self-images and their understanding of what is important in a human. The kind of pressure they deal with and the message they get that physical appearances are important just aren't moral to expose them to. Dancing competitions with an understory of dolling-up is undesirable, a competition where the central theme is who's-the-prettiest is much more harmful.

Much akin to a bonny baby competition that my local agricultural show has and the disturbing thing about it its judged during the dog show the glamourous granny competition.

LittleBook · 11-07-2012 04:28PM

gobnaitolunacy wrote: »

'The kids are caked in make up, fake hair, fake tan, fakenails and wear ridiculously skimpy outfits'

Sounds like a night on the piss in any town in Ireland.

Which illustrates perfectly why this is so fúcking creepy.

LH Pathe · 11-07-2012 04:49PM

D1stant wrote: »

I would guess its the same obscure group that listen to Irish C&W

are they beauty queens or dancing queens? Our tweenie dancers routines do be to airy fairy SHM-type stuff. Same as our 'ard men

gcgirl · 11-07-2012 05:03PM

Stupid people living their fantasies out through their kids, pushy parents should be publicly flogged

CrazyRabbit · 11-07-2012 06:09PM

davet82 wrote: »

obviously the third highest rate of kiddie fiddlers also then

Why would 'kiddy fiddlers' as you put it, be interested in boys/girls dressed up as adults? Surely they would only be interested in kids who, well..look like kids. That is what they're attracted to after all.

Saying that, these competitions are sick. Whether paedophiles would be attracted to the children or not, the children are still being sexualised by their parents. And that's just wrong.

Son Of A Vidic · 11-07-2012 06:13PM

ejmaztec wrote: »

Who are these people in the fan-base?

Doesn't bear thinking about, it's just all a bit sick and creepy imo.

Icepick · 11-07-2012 07:12PM

Everything that occupies scumbags and is not connected to drugs and violence is a good thing.

11-07-2012 07:14PM

And they'll wonder why their darling daughter is so fcuked up when she's older.

checkyabadself · 11-07-2012 07:46PM

I don`t see any difference between the Catholic first holy communion outfits and those worn by the girls in those types of pageants. There`s more than just a few wackos who think it`s fine to dress 7 year olds as mini brides. I find it all repulsive. I shudder when I see some parents dragging their daughter around for a week after the ceremony in restaurants, etc.

Sea Filly · 11-07-2012 08:02PM

People interested in these awful things are probably the Irish equivalent of this charming woman:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1032029/Mummys-little-Lolita-The-11-year-old-girl-beauty-treatments-cost-300-month-make-look-like-Barbie.html

Rothko · 11-07-2012 08:09PM

Hopefully, it's just a trap and that when the parents turn up they'll have they're children taken from them by social services.

Tombi! · 11-07-2012 08:21PM

I don't even understand the point.

I can kind of understand the ones with girls about 13-14 if there's a talent section or something.

But aren't these just "see who spends the most money on their kids" contests?

LETHAL LADY · 11-07-2012 08:22PM

Sea Filly wrote: »

People interested in these awful things are probably the Irish equivalent of this charming woman:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1032029/Mummys-little-Lolita-The-11-year-old-girl-beauty-treatments-cost-300-month-make-look-like-Barbie.html

Turned out ok in the end for her maybe?.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2067155/Sasha-Bennington-Beauty-queen-idolised-Katie-Price-wins-1st-championship-boxing-title.html

christmas2012 · 11-07-2012 08:28PM

Very costly for the crazed soccer moms or indeed dads involved,and look at the jonabennet case,could happen here,im not saying its destined to happen here,but why sexualise young children cant they wait until their teenagers and do it themselves?

Peetrik · 11-07-2012 08:40PM

The whole pratice is abhorrent. Whatever shred of innocent competition for fun where children can play dress up has long since been surpassed by, as has been said, the completely inappropriate sexualising of small children.

11-07-2012 09:59PM

Deleted User wrote: »

And they'll wonder why their darling daughter is so fcuked up when she's older.

"you're 14 britney, why aren't you getting a boob job???"

Sea Filly · 11-07-2012 10:02PM

LETHAL LADY wrote: »

Turned out ok in the end for her maybe?.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2067155/Sasha-Bennington-Beauty-queen-idolised-Katie-Price-wins-1st-championship-boxing-title.html

Maybe! But the mother was awful, that's my point.

Salt001 · 11-07-2012 10:03PM

Load of absolute bull. 300 parents invited her???.
What like they have a support group now for crappy parents?.
Or did 300 individual parents just decide to write her all at the same time ?.
I really really hope this idea goes up in flames.I honestly thought we Irish had more sense than this.

:(:mad

Laneyh · 12-07-2012 03:04AM

D1stant wrote: »

I would guess its the same obscure group that listen to Irish C&W

It's the same people that send their kid to the salon before making her holy communion I'd say.

Unfortunately there are plenty of vacuous parents ( mostly mothers ) who wold see nothing wrong with this at all

There is also a substantial cash prize so I guess they're more than happy to pimp the kids

Laneyh · 12-07-2012 03:10AM

ejmaztec wrote: »

Just absolutely completely and utterly noooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2012/0711/breaking27.html

Who are these people in the fan-base?

So sad.. We've just introduced guidelines for children swear to try and stop dressing kids like mini adults and then this circus rolls into town.

What a fantastic idea to instil in very young minds your value and self worth hinges entirely on your looks - that won't come back to bite them on the ass at all.

12-07-2012 03:20AM

thats sicks

Jimoslimos · 12-07-2012 04:05AM

Plazaman wrote: »

Doubt beauty pagents could be much worse and at least presume there's prizemoney involved for the winners, not just brass medals and certificates like the Feis crowd were doling out.

Which in a way, makes it a lot worse. What you have in essence is parents pimping their children out for financial gain.

southsiderosie · 12-07-2012 04:06AM

"Go-go juice?" "Holla for a dolla?"

WORST.
MOTHER.
EVER.

Sleepy · 12-07-2012 10:28AM

And I presume the entrants beauty regimes will be paid for our of the SWA exceptional needs payments?

Bad Panda · 12-07-2012 10:36AM

southsiderosie wrote: »

"Go-go juice?" "Holla for a dolla?"

WORST.
MOTHER.
EVER.

Jesus! How many more children does she have hiding in her chins?!

You don't think she's living vicariously through her daughter's pageantry do do you!!?

blacklilly · 12-07-2012 11:00AM

checkyabadself wrote: »

I don`t see any difference between the Catholic first holy communion outfits and those worn by the girls in those types of pageants. There`s more than just a few wackos who think it`s fine to dress 7 year olds as mini brides. I find it all repulsive. I shudder when I see some parents dragging their daughter around for a week after the ceremony in restaurants, etc.

While I agree there are parents who go totally over board when their daughters are celebrating their first holy communions, it is not the norm. The type of parents who do this are the same parents who would be into this child pageantry.
Also the vast majority of parents do not attempt to sexulaise their daughter who is making their first communion.
This thread is specific to child pageantry, first holy communion is a religious celebration and is sacred to roman catholics. For some people catholism is still a mojor part of their lives and that should be respected, there will always be a few who go overboard on these occassions.
However with child pageantry, all children are sexualised, made wear skimpy outfits (in some cases dress like prostitutes) the focus on looks and attractivness are at the very heart of child pageantry. Children are forced to become objects of atractivness and play up to a dumb persona. Their parents are incredibly pushy and I would also suggest perhaps not mentally stable as such.
Children are being objectified for adult pleasure, it is to an extent child abuse.

Child beauty pageants in Ireland

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