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Northern Ireland prison service (now recruiting))

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  • #452
    1967J
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 251 ✭✭1967J


    swl33t wrote: »
    in one of the articles it says "a salary of up to a maximum of 23000 per year" im assuming the only way to increase this is via promotion?

    I am hoping that it is a starting salary of 18k whilst in training rising to approx 23k upon completion of training when I spoke to recruitment they were unable to confirm - they did state time spent at Millilse was approx 6 weeks- 67j


  • #453
    sydnor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 88 ✭✭sydnor


    Got my forms posted off today.

    Fingers crossed that already having CTC Clearance wil speed my process up a bit.


  • #454
    euros1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 171 ✭✭euros1


    hopefully it will sydnor, looking forward to getting started (if I get through vetting a medical - should be ok), hopefully be in by end of the year - also noticed there is a show on channel 4 called lifers - just thought i would mention incase any one on here would be interested in it, was on last night and then on again tonight, looks like it would be interesting - based in an English prison


  • #455
    swl33t
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 447 ✭✭swl33t


    still waiting on the doc to fill out my vac. form! Anyone have any idea what the medical will entail?


  • #456
    euros1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 171 ✭✭euros1


    not sure what all it will entail - some of the guys were discussing it a few pages back


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  • #457
    steven123455
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 ✭steven123455


    got the link today.


  • #458
    euros1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 171 ✭✭euros1


    Got it today aswell


  • #459
    euros1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 171 ✭✭euros1


    A very interesting link

    http://www.niassembly.gov.uk/Assembly-Business/Official-Report/Committee-Minutes-of-Evidence/April-2012/Northern-Ireland-Prison-Service-Exit-Scheme-Prison-Officers-Association/

    about half way down it talks about how many applied and likely salary - certainly isnt as good as the old pay scale.

    What do yous think


  • #460
    hayes_1991
    Closed Accounts Posts: 31 ✭hayes_1991


    got the link today but on intial registration managed to lock myself out putting in the details, anybody any ideas how to unlock it tonight?


  • #461
    SJAG
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39 ✭SJAG


    euros1 wrote: »
    A very interesting link

    http://www.niassembly.gov.uk/Assembly-Business/Official-Report/Committee-Minutes-of-Evidence/April-2012/Northern-Ireland-Prison-Service-Exit-Scheme-Prison-Officers-Association/

    about half way down it talks about how many applied and likely salary - certainly isnt as good as the old pay scale.

    What do yous think

    Further info..... Of the ~900 people who made it to the AC there were 561 who passed.

    Who knows how many will be taken in from this list.

    The above link had interesting reading.

    This is the crucial bit of the above meeting.....

    ####################################################

    Mr Wells: Sorry. There were 5,000 applications. Does that level not indicate that those people were obviously aware of the package when they applied? Does that not indicate that the package was attractive to a lot of folk? I accept that, compared to what the outgoing officers were on, it is considerably lower. However, 5,000 people felt that it was a good package and were very happy to apply.

    Mr F Spratt: You are very lucky, Mr Wells, that you are not on the unemployment register. Today, people would queue up for any job that would pay £150 a week. That is not the problem. The problem will come when people come into this job. I have no doubt that that number will include a lot of well-educated young people who have nothing else to do, having come out of university with degrees and one thing and another. They are going to get a rude awakening when they come into the Prison Service. That is the point that I am making. This is being done by an outside agency. There is no interview process; it is an aptitude test and all that. Yes, 4,900-odd people were interested, but that is because there is no other work out there. There is just no other work — end of story. A lot of the young people who are applying will be using the Prison Service as a stopgap. The Prison Service will reap the benefit of that in years to come. I will probably not be around, but, in my view, that is what will happen.

    Mr Wells: Given normal promotion, how long would it take one of those 5,000 people, if appointed, to get up to the level they would have been at had they been on the old prison officer scale?

    Mr F Spratt: We had two scales: one of £31,000 and the old one of £38,000. These young officers will never get to that. The maximum pay in their scale, if they get to an offender supervisor position, is going to be £27,000. To then get to a senior officer position might get them another couple of thousand pounds extra, and that will take them anything up to maybe 15 or 17 years. There are no promotion prospects in the Northern Ireland Prison Service. The SEE programme has done away with that.

    Mr Wells: So, they will never get to £38,000, no matter what happens?

    Mr F Spratt: No, never. It is not going to happen.




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  • #462
    Delancey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,451 ✭✭✭Delancey


    Worth noting the pay scales for PO in the Republic have also changed radically - ther have been reports on this forum of trainee PO's dropping out of training when they realise how low the pay is in comparison to their expectations.

    Prison costs in Norn Iron have historically been way above the rest of the UK ( even allowing for the costs of the ' Troubles ' ) - these reforms are intended to drive down the costs.


  • #463
    wanadrum
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 684 ✭✭✭wanadrum


    SJAG wrote: »
    Further info..... Of the ~900 people who made it to the AC there were 561 who passed.

    Who knows how many will be taken in from this list.

    Where did you find the 561 figure out? Good Effort!


  • #464
    euros1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 171 ✭✭euros1


    All I have ever wanted to do is work for Prison Service, no matter what the salary is.Obviously the higher the better but it isn't the thing that drives me on..After working in a job for 8 years that I have no passion for I cannot wait to get started.it was torture not getting through the last 4 or 5 recruitment drives.


  • #465
    1967J
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 251 ✭✭1967J


    euros1 wrote: »
    All I have ever wanted to do is work for Prison Service, no matter what the salary is.Obviously the higher the better but it isn't the thing that drives me on..After working in a job for 8 years that I have no passion for I cannot wait to get started.it was torture not getting through the last 4 or 5 recruitment drives.


    Would be interested to hear what is so appealing to you about the job - the whole recruitment campaign has been very vague - I have my reasons for applying and hopefully getting a merit score of less than 30 I am in with a good shout - if you want to shoot me a PM (if you prefer) would appreciate it
    67J


  • #466
    sydnor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 88 ✭✭sydnor


    1967J wrote: »
    Would be interested to hear what is so appealing to you about the job - the whole recruitment campaign has been very vague - I have my reasons for applying and hopefully getting a merit score of less than 30 I am in with a good shout - if you want to shoot me a PM (if you prefer) would appreciate it
    67J

    I'm interested in the reasons too.

    I've wanted to be in the Prison Service for quite some too but not with the same enthusiasm as yourself.


  • #467
    SJAG
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39 ✭SJAG


    wanadrum wrote: »
    SJAG wrote: »
    Further info..... Of the ~900 people who made it to the AC there were 561 who passed.

    Who knows how many will be taken in from this list.

    Where did you find the 561 figure out? Good Effort!




    That came from Recruitment...


  • #468
    euros1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 171 ✭✭euros1


    Anyone heard any further info.


  • #469
    weepete
    Closed Accounts Posts: 266 ✭✭weepete


    Nothing yet but heres a delightful little story straight out of maghaberry shows you why you shouldnt mess with a dog handler and his dog, warning dont read this while eating

    http://www.joe.ie/news-politics/current-affairs/prison-dog-bites-off-bit-of-prisoners-penis-in-derry-0026449-1

    Ps. I know they got the location of Maghaberry wrong but we will let them off with it.


  • #470
    1967J
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 251 ✭✭1967J


    Recruitment appear to have been effected by the recent weather - I had to leave something up to them but their site has been closed for the last few days - need to sit down and get the ctc down - probably tomorrow night - anyone done theirs - how long did it take - 67j


  • #471
    Shawsy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 155 ✭✭Shawsy


    Anyone still not received the link? I sent my info away just over a week ago but still haven't had anything back, am starting to panic that there is a problem! I tried emailing to ask if they received everything but no reply and I don't want to hound them by ringing.

    Is anybody in the same boat at all or has everyone else received their link?


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  • #472
    1967J
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 251 ✭✭1967J


    Shawsy wrote: »
    Anyone still not received the link? I sent my info away just over a week ago but still haven't had anything back, am starting to panic that there is a problem! I tried emailing to ask if they received everything but no reply and I don't want to hound them by ringing.

    Is anybody in the same boat at all or has everyone else received their link?

    I got my link within a about 5 days but as I said above recruitment have not been at their desks for a few days last week due to the weather - I am hoping that they are back in this morning but I know their location was closed on Thursday and Friday past - 67j


  • #473
    weepete
    Closed Accounts Posts: 266 ✭✭weepete


    Shawsy wrote: »
    Anyone still not received the link? I sent my info away just over a week ago but still haven't had anything back, am starting to panic that there is a problem! I tried emailing to ask if they received everything but no reply and I don't want to hound them by ringing.

    Is anybody in the same boat at all or has everyone else received their link?

    Sent mine in last week still no word back yet.


  • #474
    1967J
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 251 ✭✭1967J


    Tried to log on tonight to complete the ctc forms but it has locked me out GRRRRRRRR - wanted to get this out of the way - email sent to recruitment to get me unlocked - ah well tomorrow night it is then - 67j


  • #475
    euros1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 171 ✭✭euros1


    Hey 67j, did ya get it unlocked today.I sent email to recruitment dept last Wednesday and haven't got an email back yet.I know u were saying they were closed due to weather,was just wondering if they were open again


  • #476
    1967J
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 251 ✭✭1967J


    euros1 wrote: »
    Hey 67j, did ya get it unlocked today.I sent email to recruitment dept last Wednesday and haven't got an email back yet.I know u were saying they were closed due to weather,was just wondering if they were open again


    No not heard anything from them as yet - tried ringing them again but line still appears to be dead - will let know if I hear anything 67j


  • #477
    euros1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 171 ✭✭euros1


    Cheers


  • #478
    Shawsy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 155 ✭✭Shawsy


    euros1 wrote: »
    Hey 67j, did ya get it unlocked today.I sent email to recruitment dept last Wednesday and haven't got an email back yet.I know u were saying they were closed due to weather,was just wondering if they were open again

    I sent email last Wednesday also regarding the link but got no reply, however I received the link this morning so I would say they are just working through it all-with any luck everyone will have received their links soon!! Good luck


  • #479
    kc29
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41 ✭kc29


    If anyone hasn't received vetting forms dont panic.
    I went through vetting medical etc in the past psni drive and I wasnt particularly high up the merit list.
    Got the small envelope right enough for nips a couple of weeks ago and heard nothing since so back to porridge I suppose.


  • #480
    hayes_1991
    Closed Accounts Posts: 31 ✭hayes_1991


    cant seem to get registered for the dva vetting, as i been locked out, and now the prison service recruitment arent answer phones. not good, when do they take the 12th holidays from also?


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  • #481
    wanadrum
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 684 ✭✭✭wanadrum


    If you are interested, you can get your merit place by e-mailing recruitment kc29


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