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Ireland needs a taoiseach with this guys attitude

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  • #32
    woodoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,219 ✭✭✭woodoo


    Ellis Dee wrote: »
    Cameron heads a country with some of the biggest welfare spongers on the planet. Just look at that Windsor family, for example ---:):):)

    How dare you, British royal family.... best in the world... British wasters... best in the world...


  • #33
    johngalway
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    Overflow wrote: »
    similar to scandinavian countries.

    Was about to say F off and live there so.... then.... well.... carry on.


  • #34
    Samich
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,949 ✭✭✭Samich


    sup_dude wrote: »
    Oh yeah, we need him alright because you know, the UK is doing so well :rolleyes:

    It was quite funny then that when Barack Obama came to Ireland and says "Yes we can" everyone was so happy and optimistic. Pity he was the head of the most in debt country in the world.

    :rolleyes:


  • #35
    Samich
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,949 ✭✭✭Samich


    Casillas wrote: »
    Forcing adults to live with their parents is an odd one.

    Would welfare payments be enough to support the adult child or would the parents be expected to continue to support them?

    Also, I wonder what the effect would be on the young adult, having independence curbed until such a late age.

    Mind boggling..

    I think it means the parents wouldn't need rent (or as much) living at home.


  • #36
    paul4green
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92 ✭✭paul4green


    He's dead right. I'm from a council estate in Dublin and I'm fed up with these "mammy's and daddy's" who are mine own age,18(AND YOUNGER!!).

    They join this Social Welfare gravy train once they pop a baby. It makes me sick what they're entitled to. My sister's friend is one of them and I know her well.

    €400 before the baby was born from the social welfare relieving officer BEFORE the baby is born. Got this payment twice. Referred to him as a "scabby C.u.n.t" and did he not know how dear maternity clothes were.

    She and her drug dealing bf now have 2 kids. They're on €380 a week. live in a 2 bed apt on rent allowance costing ~€1000 a month. Along with a €300 child benefit payment on the first Tuesday of the month. To top it all off they get SVP every bloody week and use their vouchers to get the groceries!!

    The Social Welfare system encourage young women from poor areas to have a baby and they see this as "being sorted". It's a really scummy attitude and has to stop.

    The options for kids where I live are have a baby, get a job or do a plc. Very few end up going on to 3rd level education. I can count on one hand how many of the people where I live have gone to college, I count myself lucky :)

    As my nan said to me one they, they should put the pill in their bloody porridge. It's a wrong attitude to think you can scrounge off the welfare system for the rest of your lives.

    It's not right.


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  • #37
    Samich
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,949 ✭✭✭Samich


    sup_dude wrote: »
    *Looks at title of thread* Erm... well yeah

    Fail, says we need a man with his attitude. Not him.


  • #38
    dotsman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,636 ✭✭✭dotsman


    laoch na mona wrote: »
    no we need reform not simple cuts

    What he is proposing is reforms and not cuts.


  • #39
    squod
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,704 ✭✭✭squod


    Overflow Treungen, Norway wrote: »
    He is dead right, its an absolute must, its been going on for far too long now, the growth of our social welfare problem is almost exponential at this stage.

    A lot of the new policies he mentions are quite similar to scandinavian countries.

    http://news.sky.com/home/politics/article/16252690

    Snippet:


    Meanwhile back in the real world..... soup kitchens.
    http://www.galwaynews.ie/26446-soup-kitchen-new-face-recession


    We don't have Cameron's problems and you certainly don't. What we need is jobs. That's the actual reality. There aren't gonna come from this government or their plans and that I can agree with.

    Back when we had 4% unemployment this wasn't an issue. What we should be doing is focusing in on efforts to grow the economy. As Google, facebook Vodafone et al are bending over backwards to invest our government are busying themselves with schite talk and local politics.


  • #40
    woodoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,219 ✭✭✭woodoo


    paul4green wrote: »
    To top it all off they get SVP every bloody week and use their vouchers to get the groceries!!

    The more i hear of what they (SVP) spend their money on the less likely i am to give them anything ever again.


  • #41
    Jester252
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,533 ✭✭✭Jester252


    We should have people fight for social welfare payment.
    People can place bets on who is going to win and the government get 5% of all wining


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  • #42
    PucaMama
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭PucaMama


    Overflow wrote: »
    He is dead right, its an absolute must, its been going on for far too long now, the growth of our social welfare problem is almost exponential at this stage.

    A lot of the new policies he mentions are quite similar to scandinavian countries.

    http://news.sky.com/home/politics/article/16252690

    Snippet:

    and what about those of us under 25s who dont have the option of living with parents:mad:


  • #43
    squod
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,704 ✭✭✭squod


    woodoo wrote: »
    The more i hear of what they (SVP) spend their money on the less likely i am to give them anything ever again.

    The local volunteers will tell you where your money goes. One of the best organisations to give money, time or stuff to IMO.


  • #44
    Ave Sodalis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,555 ✭✭✭Ave Sodalis


    Samich wrote: »
    Fail, says we need a man with his attitude. Not him.

    Same principle...


  • #45
    Ave Sodalis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,555 ✭✭✭Ave Sodalis


    Samich wrote: »
    It was quite funny then that when Barack Obama came to Ireland and says "Yes we can" everyone was so happy and optimistic. Pity he was the head of the most in debt country in the world.

    :rolleyes:

    Not getting the relevance? :confused:


  • #46
    Overflow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,266 ✭✭✭Overflow


    PucaMama wrote: »
    and what about those of us under 25s who dont have the option of living with parents:mad:

    That's the problem right there, this sense of entitlement you seem to have.


  • #47
    Patrick Cleburne
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 141 ✭✭Patrick Cleburne


    Of course he is right. Young teenage girls getting pregnant only so they can get a house and claim housing benefit. That is why there is a huge problem with the welfare system. They know the system inside and out.

    About time they take some responsibility for themselves.


  • #48
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Patrick Cleburne wrote: »
    Of course he is right. Young teenage girls getting pregnant only so they can get a house and claim housing benefit. That is why there is a huge problem with the welfare system. They know the system inside and out.

    About time they take some responsibility for themselves.

    Nice one there Patrick.


  • #49
    Varied
    Closed Accounts Posts: 725 ✭✭✭Varied


    Overflow wrote: »
    That's the problem right there, this sense of entitlement you seem to have.

    Not a sense of entitlement, just a sense of not wanting to live on the streets.

    The next ****ty thread you create will no doubt be "were did allz da homeless come frm??!1111, dem junkies should b locked up!111!!".


  • #50
    Patrick Cleburne
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 141 ✭✭Patrick Cleburne


    Nodin wrote: »
    Nice one there Patrick.
    Can't argue against it because it is true and everyone knows that is the major problem. It is despicable bringing a young child into the world not because you want a child but because you want the child benefit and housing benefit.

    See it all the time. It is time these people get sent to working camps and learn how not to become the filth of society.


  • #51
    Varied
    Closed Accounts Posts: 725 ✭✭✭Varied


    Nodin wrote: »
    Nice one there Patrick Keith.


    FYP :pac:


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  • #52
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Patrick Cleburne wrote: »
    Can't argue against it because it is true and everyone knows that is the major problem. It is despicable bringing a young child into the world not because you want a child but because you want the child benefit and housing benefit.

    See it all the time. It is time these people get sent to working camps and learn how not to become the filth of society.

    Ja, Patrick, Ja!!!!!!!!!


  • #53
    squod
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    Patrick Cleburne wrote: »
    Of course he is right. Young teenage girls getting pregnant only so they can get a house and claim housing benefit. That is why there is a huge problem with the welfare system. They know the system inside and out.

    About time they take some responsibility for themselves.

    Worked with a few teenage girls who got pregnant etc. Thankfully they had the support of family to return/go to work and not end up on SW.

    There's sensible policy decision and there's taking the easy way out. What our government will do and have done is do nothing, hope for the best. Cameron's policy won't work because it's along the same principle. Take the easy way out. Blame someone else etc.


  • #54
    gerryo777
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    Patrick Cleburne wrote: »
    Of course he is right. Young teenage girls getting pregnant only so they can get a house and claim housing benefit. That is why there is a huge problem with the welfare system. They know the system inside and out.

    About time they take some responsibility for themselves.

    How many of these do you know or are you just talking ****e?

    First it was the private sector versus the PS/CS, now it seems to be everyone against the unemployed or the 'unmarried mothers'.

    It's like the ****ing 1980's all over again, I thought we'd grown up a bit.


  • #55
    gerryo777
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭gerryo777


    Patrick Cleburne wrote: »
    Can't argue against it because it is true and everyone knows that is the major problem. It is despicable bringing a young child into the world not because you want a child but because you want the child benefit and housing benefit.

    See it all the time. It is time these people get sent to working camps and learn how not to become the filth of society.

    Maybe we should just send them away on trains and have them gassed... FFS!!


  • #56
    PucaMama
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭PucaMama


    Overflow wrote: »
    That's the problem right there, this sense of entitlement you seem to have.

    yes if your parents are dead and u cant live with them :rolleyes::rolleyes: thats a sense of entitlement :rolleyes::rolleyes:


  • #57
    Sean Bateman
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 858 ✭✭✭Sean Bateman


    For someone living in the "real world" (i.e. where you've to pay for stuff yourself), your finances deteriorate when you've kids.

    For these working class girls, this isn't the case - They're aiming to get pregnant because there's a financial reward. Ergo, these rewards need to be done away with.

    As for the work / welfare conundrum, there should not be a disincentive to work. Someone earning the minimum wage (i.e. €8.65 x 40 hrs) should be better off financially than someone on social welfare. If that means cutting social welfare, then so be it.


  • #58
    christmas2012
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭christmas2012


    I dont like the thread title ''Ireland needs a taoiseach with this guys attitude''

    What attitude,one that stinks of double standards,where he waffles on about how those on the dole have an air of self entitlement,thats bullshit,this eton educated prick talks about how they have that air of self entitlement getting something for nothing,what about his million pound inheritence he didnt pay inheritance tax on?


  • #59
    christmas2012
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭christmas2012


    ''For these working class girls, this isn't the case - They're aiming to get pregnant because there's a financial reward. Ergo, these rewards need to be done away with.''


    WRONG..A lot of girls are getting pregnant later in life,and dont get pregnant at say 14 or whatever,not as much anymore,its still exists but living on welfare aint no picnic,and those working class girls know it too..


  • #60
    PucaMama
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭PucaMama


    Sean Bateman wrote: »
    For someone living in the "real world" (i.e. where you've to pay for stuff yourself), your finances deteriorate when you've kids.

    For these working class girls, this isn't the case - They're aiming to get pregnant because there's a financial reward. Ergo, these rewards need to be done away with.

    As for the work / welfare conundrum, there should not be a disincentive to work. Someone earning the minimum wage (i.e. €8.65 x 40 hrs) should be better off financially than someone on social welfare. If that means cutting social welfare, then so be it.

    ah yes all their fault, as those babies arive by the stork dont they no fellas at fault there :rolleyes::rolleyes:


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  • #61
    Sean Bateman
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 858 ✭✭✭Sean Bateman


    christmas2012 wrote: »
    this eton educated prick talks about how they have that air of self entitlement getting something for nothing,what about his million pound inheritence he didnt pay inheritance tax on?

    Does being well educated, having wealthy / successful relatives and paying the correct amount of tax preclude someone from having an opinion?


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