Unpopular Opinions.

kunst nugget wrote: »

So, ostensibly you're saying that anyone who doesn't believe in god is doing so as some pretentious stance to show their smarter than other people. But in doing so, they are leaving a spiritual void in their lives that is being manipulated by insidious media overlords to enslave them.

You don't get out much, do you…

Ostensibly? No. That's not what I am saying at all. I think Prinz has completely grasped what I am saying and he has summed it up very well. You, on the other hand have twisted what I said and put words in my mouth. Notice first, that I said "many people who take an anti-religion stance" and not "all people...". I never said anything about their lack of belief in a god leaving a spiritual void in their lives. Don't get me wrong, I am an agnostic and having been utterly immersed in evangelist fundamentalist Christianity throughout my childhood, I am no fan of religion. You are right about the insidious media and enslavement bit though. Slavery is where we are headed and we will be the best kind slaves to, slaves who don't even know that they are slaves. Sure we are almost there already.

prinz wrote: »

You've pretty much answered your own question there. Big mac, clothes, computer, phone, car, lifestyle, partner.. and on.....

When I talk about media influence, I am talking about ideologies which go well beyond simple consumerism and advertising. I am talking about the undermining of community, family, culture and heritage etc. I am talking about the destruction of the concept of personal privacy and sovereignty. I am talking about the celebrity culture. I am talking about the dehumanizing of humans, and people being encouraged to have contempt for each other and themselves. Divide and conquer. I am talking about political propaganda conditioning people to accept oil wars in the name of "freedom" or the "need" to transfer of more and more money and resources (well power really) to banking dynasties. I am talking about the promotion of promiscuity in young teenagers. I am talking about people being conditioned to accept as normal and acceptable, things such as the proliferation of surveillance and state supervision of more and more aspects of peoples lives. I'm talking about the dissemination of fear. I'm talking about the dumbing down of society.And much more besides.An assault on many, many, many fronts. For what? to weaken you. Why? To make you a slave. A slave who does not even know they are a slave.

Duggys Housemate wrote: »

But, that said, even though I dislike the modern Atheist, an atheist can be a critical thinker, though most aren't, but a religious person cant really.

One of the greatest philosophical minds of the twenty first century is a bona fidi Christian.

kunst nugget wrote: »

This is nonsense. You're somehow trying to find a common thread to tie what you see as all the woes of the world into a unifying package of despair to convince yourself that you're smarter than everyone else because you can see it and they can't.

What has teenagers shagging got to do with oil wars?

To engage with you would be a waste of valuable energy. You've no interest in thought or discussion.

It's worth pointing out that a good part of this thread, since my original post has been taken up with reaction to that post. Most of it negative. It truly is an unpopular opinion. Interesting though that it has elicited such a reaction.
I think I've touched a nerve.

cloptrop wrote: »

Ireland can't afford to take the 6 counties back.

This is a reality surely and is hardly an unpopular opinion these days.

kunst nugget wrote: »

Not true, I have time for constructive thinking and rational discussions that have a basis in reality and can be backed up with facts. I have very little time for people that come out with sweeping statements calling people blind and stupid and coming out with paranoid rhetoric about media enslavement. If you're going to come out with statements about how the media is controlling us, back it up with facts.

Just because I believe that my dog is controlled by an eight tentacled alien with six arses and people are just too blind and stupid to see it doesn't make it so.

Here's my unpopular opinion. The internet has been a fantastic tool in helping us communicate with people and get information on any subject we want but the big downside is that any delusional crank can spout paranoid, hair brained theories about how the world works and they will find a willing audience of gullible people to lap it up. This what we see with the anti-vaccination movement or the people that believe that the moon landings didn't happen. In the words of Tim Minchin, if you open your mind too much, your brain will fall out.

I take it then, that you are an authority on what is "constructive thinking" and "rational discussions". Is that why you had to use the tactic of cheap mockery, trying to compare what I am saying about media influence to believing in "eight tentacled aliens with six arses"?

Anyway, you are not worth bothering with, for two reasons. 1) you are totally disingenuous and 2) despite all of your "rationality", you are afraid that if you open your mind too much, your brain will fall out! LOL. You'll be believing in shape-shifting lizards next!

Oh by the way. Did you get the swine flu vaccination? The reason I ask is that, in some cases, it causes narcolepsy, and you certainly seem to be the sleepy sort to me.

Cheeky_gal wrote: »

Teenagers shouldn't be allowed to be mothers , maybe take the kid off them until they're mature enough to be mothers ... Perhaps when they turn 20/21

Who should stop them and who should look after the kids until these teenagers are 20/21?