Its the year 3012, who from 2012 will be

Ficheall · 04-06-2012 12:42PM

EdenHazard wrote: »

Judging by the fact there is many people that would be aware of Roman gladiators and the likes, someone like Messi might be remembered.

How many Roman gladiators, aside from Maximus Decimus Meridius, could you name?
& do you mean "remembered" or "have information stored on them on the internet somewhere"?

sebastianlieken · 04-06-2012 12:44PM

The person who eventually assasinates Justin Beiber. He will be remembered, honoured, and live as an example for all of society that good can triumph over evil.

Jimmyhologram · 04-06-2012 12:44PM

Richard Branson for his association with commercial space travel. Depending on how it develops, could be seen as a major milestone in the future.

Michael Jackson might be seen as inaugurating the history of drastic body modification, which is only going to get more pronounced.

While neither of these have contributed much, if anything, to the technology of space travel or plastic surgery, they might be the individuals with the most traction in the public mind.

More realistically, I would say no one at all.

The King of Moo · 04-06-2012 12:45PM

Well if we're talking about the 20th century and early 21st century, then you'd have to say Hitler has a good chance of being remembered due to the impact he had and the silly look of him.

It's hard to tell with people who were the first to do or invented great things. They're not always remembered, especially if what they created/began becomes everyday. Someone living on a planet orbitting Alpha Centauri might not give a fig about Neil Armstrong. Nor might someone who has the internet implanted in their brain from birth care about Berners-Lee.

Their names will be recorded though, so they've a better chance of being remembered in 3012 than some important king from 1012 has of being remembered now.
I'd say they'll largely be remembered by academic experts, but not the average Joe Jet-Pack.

Red21 · 04-06-2012 12:52PM

Duffy the Vampire Slayer wrote: »

I don't even know who Lionel Messi is now.

I doubt that, i'd say you're only saying that because you have some half baked notion that saying such a thing will make yourself sound cool, if you came across a less well known person such as say, Charles Taylor (he as in the news this week) you wouldn't dare say such a thing because it might make you sound a little bit thick.

Red21 · 04-06-2012 12:56PM

EdenHazard wrote: »

Well in the past 100 years, its the first time since we've been able to comprehensively record what we as human have been doing. Judging by the fact there is many people that would be aware of Roman gladiators and the likes, someone like Messi might be remembered.

In 300 years time the people may decide that keeping records of personalities from the past is a form of madness and abandon the thing altogether.

Shryke · 04-06-2012 12:58PM

Notable global leaders like JFK who lived in times of flux.
Any scientists name who had a great impact, that's not to say they would be famous. Einstein is the safest bet i've heard.
Footballers and pop stars? Forget it. Pop culture changes in a generation, never mind a thousand years.

In the long run it will be people who mattered for better our worse. It shows how up it's own ass our culture is that people would pick random celebrities.

yuppies · 04-06-2012 12:59PM

What I think is mad is that even by the year 2400 or whatever people will (hopefully) have access to videos and photographs of people doing stuff 400 - 500 years previously... surely that will be a bit spooky for them.

Also, I'd imagine somebody in the year 3012 looking back to our time will have little appreciation of how greatly living standards and technology increased every decade and even year. So they might look back and think the year 1930 was basically the same as 2030 with no appreciable improvements in living standards. Or even the difference in technology between say 2000 and 2010 which in my opinion has been incredible.

mikemac1 · 04-06-2012 01:05PM

Trying to think of an Irish man from a thousand years ago and Brian Boru was all I could come up with

And Enda Kenny is no Brian Boru!

Scuid Mhór · 04-06-2012 01:09PM

Me.

EdenHazard · 04-06-2012 01:10PM

It could literally be anything from now. People have a habit of underestimating our own importance. I'd argue this generation is one of the most important in the history, and future of mankind. People go on about Egyptians and stuff but what humanity has done over past 100 years wins over all.

People will remain curious, they'll wanna know about the society that formed the foundations from which their whole existence comes from. It just depends what from now will make it in to some college course about '20th/21st century world' 1000 years from now.

Same way we're fascinated by the things that came before us.

Shryke · 04-06-2012 01:13PM

EdenHazard wrote: »

It could literally be anything from now. People have a habit of underestimating our own importance.

LOL.

Duffy the Vampire Slayer · 04-06-2012 01:20PM

Red21 wrote: »

I doubt that, i'd say you're only saying that because you have some half baked notion that saying such a thing will make yourself sound cool, if you came across a less well known person such as say, Charles Taylor (he as in the news this week) you wouldn't dare say such a thing because it might make you sound a little bit thick.

I am aware there is someone called Lionel Messi. But I don't know what he looks like where he comes from or who he plays for. If he walked into the room right now I wouldn't have a clue who he was. So forgive me for doubting he'll be remembered in a thousand years time.

yuppies · 04-06-2012 01:22PM

I was thinking before; there's 7 billion humans on earth nowadays. If a nuclear war kicked off by the time there were about 10 billion, even if 0.1% of the population survives, that's still 10 million humans left. Surely that's enough to rebuild civilisation, provided most of our important accumulated information is compiled away somewhere. Even if only 0.001% survive, that's still 100,000 people to rebuild the earth, it's still possible

im invisible · 04-06-2012 01:24PM

What was the question again?

yuppies · 04-06-2012 01:26PM

wait, just realised my post there has nothing to do with the question!

EdenHazard · 04-06-2012 01:35PM

Was still a good post tho

opinion guy · 04-06-2012 01:39PM

Red21 wrote: »

I doubt that, i'd say you're only saying that because you have some half baked notion that saying such a thing will make yourself sound cool, if you came across a less well known person such as say, Charles Taylor (he as in the news this week) you wouldn't dare say such a thing because it might make you sound a little bit thick.

Not knowing who someone is makes you cool now ???

Oooohhhhhh no wonder - I've been doing it wrong til now :rolleyes:

af_thefragile · 04-06-2012 01:41PM

yuppies wrote: »

I was thinking before; there's 7 billion humans on earth nowadays. If a nuclear war kicked off by the time there were about 10 billion, even if 0.1% of the population survives, that's still 10 million humans left. Surely that's enough to rebuild civilisation, provided most of our important accumulated information is compiled away somewhere. Even if only 0.001% survive, that's still 100,000 people to rebuild the earth, it's still possible

But we'll all be living underground then after the nuclear fallout and we'll be fighting mutant monsters who wait for us to prey on...

Ruski · 04-06-2012 01:41PM

EdenHazard wrote: »

No scientist will be remembered, as whatever important discoveries are made in the next 50 years, will be made by huge teams, the days of one scientist being alligned to a particular discovery are over. Einstein could stand the test of time tho.

I couldn't disagree more. Pythagoras was around 2500 years ago and everyone still knows about him.

Bipolar Joe · 04-06-2012 01:42PM

Red21 wrote: »

I doubt that, i'd say you're only saying that because you have some half baked notion that saying such a thing will make yourself sound cool, if you came across a less well known person such as say, Charles Taylor (he as in the news this week) you wouldn't dare say such a thing because it might make you sound a little bit thick.

I had never heard of Messi until now. I have no interest in sport. It's well possible for someone to not know who some sports personality is.

number10a · 04-06-2012 01:44PM

Daniel O'Donnell's sister, Margo.

Bipolar Joe · 04-06-2012 01:46PM

Ruski wrote: »

I couldn't disagree more. Pythagoras was around 2500 years ago and everyone still knows about him.

I think what he means is scientists don't have the same celebrity now as they used to, with very few exceptions. Someone like Stephen Hawking could be remembered because I think he's got the same level of celebrity as every other still famous scientist.

04-06-2012 01:46PM

Duffy the Vampire Slayer wrote: »

I am aware there is someone called Lionel Messi. But I don't know what he looks like where he comes from or who he plays for. If he walked into the room right now I wouldn't have a clue who he was. So forgive me for doubting he'll be remembered in a thousand years time.

Just because you don't know who somebody is doesn't make them any less famous. Really it just shows your ignorance that you don't know who the best player in the world at the most popular sport in the world is.

anplaya · 04-06-2012 01:47PM

Ficheall wrote: »

How many Roman gladiators, aside from Maximus Decimus Meridius, could you name?
& do you mean "remembered" or "have information stored on them on the internet somewhere"?

im sure he knows Spartacus was a gladiator :cool:

Bipolar Joe · 04-06-2012 01:48PM

AdamD wrote: »

Just because you don't know who somebody is doesn't make them any less famous. Really it just shows your ignorance that you don't know who the best player in the world at the most popular sport in the world is.

Or he has zero interest. Quick, who is GX Jupitter Larsen? I know him, lots of people I know know him, so should you.

elefant · 04-06-2012 01:50PM

Well it would probably depend on who is doing the remembering, but I'd hazard a guess that the average person won't remember anyone from nowadays. Off the top of my head, I can't think of a single person who I am positive was around in 1012.

04-06-2012 01:50PM

Bipolar Joe wrote: »

Or he has zero interest. Quick, who is GX Jupitter Larsen? I know him, lots of people I know know him, so should you.

A quick google tells me hes probably known by about 0.0001% the amount of people Lionel Messi would be known by. Great comparison.

Shryke · 04-06-2012 01:51PM

OP is no older than fifteen, right?

recylingbin · 04-06-2012 01:52PM

yer man from the x factor. can't think of his name.

Its the year 3012, who from 2012 will be

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