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Sea Filly · 21-05-2012 10:46PM

Susie_Q wrote: »

Sex selective abortion is so prolific here that it is estimated that approx 200 million women are officially 'missing' in India

Huh?

Not disagreeing, just need this explained. I'm having a slow day.

:)

Nodin · 21-05-2012 11:31PM

Sea Filly wrote: »

Huh?

Not disagreeing, just need this explained. I'm having a slow day. :)

They abort/expose female foetus/infants because they're female which means theres a large hole in the female demographic - there should be more women than there are.

Sea Filly · 21-05-2012 11:33PM

Nodin wrote: »

They abort/expose female foetus/infants because they're female.

I don't see how that equates to 200 missing women though. I know the missing was in inverted commas but as far as I knew, aborted foetuses wouldn't be considered in that way. Just thought the phrasing was a bit odd.

Nodin · 21-05-2012 11:36PM

Sea Filly wrote: »

I don't see how that equates to 200 missing women though. I know the missing was in inverted commas but as far as I knew, aborted foetuses wouldn't be considered in that way. Just thought the phrasing was a bit odd.

Essentially the demographics of the country, looked at on a chart, don't match up to projections. They're 200 million women short (roughly, of course) of what they should have in their population, according to the poster. They're "missing".

(That figure is actually a good bit too high, I think)

Quiet you · 22-05-2012 12:13AM

I think people who don't acknowlege other peoples basic human rights should be considered to have forfeited their own. Also, murderers, rapists and pedophiles should have their organs taken from them and given to someone who deserves a chance at life. If their organs are of no use or there's a surplus they should be used for medical experimentation.

They commit crimes that take or ruin peoples lives so their punishment should be to give life back to decent people. It takes years for a new drug to be given the ok at the cost of millions and many lab animals that have done nothing but be docile so why not cut all that out and just move to experimenting on prisoners? It would save the prison service, court service, social services, the HSE and Gardai time and money due to re offending and the fallout their crimes and inevitable future crimes etc plus the government could possibly make money from them out.

TLDR.... People convicted of serious crimes should have their organs taken from them or be rented out for medical experimentation because they're of less worth to society then a lab animal.

Susie_Q · 22-05-2012 03:37AM

Sea Filly wrote: »

Huh?

Not disagreeing, just need this explained. I'm having a slow day. :)

Nodin wrote: »

They abort/expose female foetus/infants because they're female which means theres a large hole in the female demographic - there should be more women than there are.

Nodin wrote: »

Essentially the demographics of the country, looked at on a chart, don't match up to projections. They're 200 million women short (roughly, of course) of what they should have in their population, according to the poster. They're "missing".

(That figure is actually a good bit too high, I think)

Nodin, you're absolutely right - I got the figure wrong. It's approximately 30-70 million, which is still a staggering number. There's a very good (and quite short) piece here which gives more info if you're interested:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/global-development/poverty-matters/2011/jul/22/india-sex-selection-missing-women

22-05-2012 04:57AM

Quiet you wrote: »

I think people who don't acknowlege other peoples basic human rights should be considered to have forfeited their own. Also, murderers, rapists and pedophiles should have their organs taken from them and given to someone who deserves a chance at life. If their organs are of no use or there's a surplus they should be used for medical experimentation.

They commit crimes that take or ruin peoples lives so their punishment should be to give life back to decent people. It takes years for a new drug to be given the ok at the cost of millions and many lab animals that have done nothing but be docile so why not cut all that out and just move to experimenting on prisoners? It would save the prison service, court service, social services, the HSE and Gardai time and money due to re offending and the fallout their crimes and inevitable future crimes etc plus the government could possibly make money from them out.

TLDR.... People convicted of serious crimes should have their organs taken from them or be rented out for medical experimentation because they're of less worth to society then a lab animal.

What did the paedofile do wrong?

Sea Filly · 22-05-2012 06:47AM

Quiet you wrote: »

It takes years for a new drug to be given the ok at the cost of millions and many lab animals that have done nothing but be docile so why not cut all that out and just move to experimenting on prisoners?

Because they would soon run out of serious crime prisoners.

Do you have any idea how the amount of laboratory animals that are used worldwide annually? So, we'd soon be into the area of using prisoners who have committed less serious crimes.

And how would you define what constitutes a serious crime for this purpose?

Sea Filly · 22-05-2012 07:05AM

Susie_Q wrote: »

Nodin, you're absolutely right - I got the figure wrong. It's approximately 30-70 million, which is still a staggering number. There's a very good (and quite short) piece here which gives more info if you're interested:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/global-development/poverty-matters/2011/jul/22/india-sex-selection-missing-women

What was really disturbing about that article is that boys receive better medical care. :eek: So, even when they are born, girls are secondary.

forfuxsake · 22-05-2012 07:30AM

Quiet you wrote: »

I think people who don't acknowlege other peoples basic human rights should be considered to have forfeited their own

Quite possibly the most ironic thing I have ever read. I:D

mikemac1 · 22-05-2012 07:40AM

Angelina Jolie is waaaaaaay overrated

Friends was an awful TV show and I can't believe the success it had
Seinfeld was even worse

Father Ted should have ended after Season Two

Scanlas The 2nd · 22-05-2012 07:48AM

mikemac1 wrote: »

Angelina Jolie is waaaaaaay overrated

Friends was an awful TV show and I can't believe the success it had
Seinfeld was even worse

Father Ted should have ended after Season Two

The first 4 seasons of friends was excellent, the last 6 was contrived and sh1t.

Scanlas The 2nd · 22-05-2012 07:49AM

mikemac1 wrote: »

Angelina Jolie is waaaaaaay overrated

Friends was an awful TV show and I can't believe the success it had
Seinfeld was even worse

Father Ted should have ended after Season Two

The first 4 seasons of friends was excellent, the last 6 was contrived and sh1t.

Pherekydes · 22-05-2012 07:57AM

mikemac1 wrote: »

Father Ted should have ended after Season Two

Father Ted should have ended before Season One.

mikemac1 · 22-05-2012 08:04AM

Larry Murphy should be in Ireland and not be allowed leave the country until his full sentence is over

If foreign criminals were coming here we'd go mad

Yet there was some relief when Murphy headed off to Spain
Spain doesn't want our criminals either

El Weirdo · 22-05-2012 08:48AM

Quiet you wrote: »

I think people who don't acknowlege other peoples basic human rights should be considered to have forfeited their own. Also, murderers, rapists and pedophiles should have their organs taken from them and given to someone who deserves a chance at life. If their organs are of no use or there's a surplus they should be used for medical experimentation.

They commit crimes that take or ruin peoples lives so their punishment should be to give life back to decent people. It takes years for a new drug to be given the ok at the cost of millions and many lab animals that have done nothing but be docile so why not cut all that out and just move to experimenting on prisoners? It would save the prison service, court service, social services, the HSE and Gardai time and money due to re offending and the fallout their crimes and inevitable future crimes etc plus the government could possibly make money from them out.

TLDR.... People convicted of serious crimes should have their organs taken from them or be rented out for medical experimentation because they're of less worth to society then a lab animal.

Seriously? Read that again and maybe you'll understand just how ridiculous it sounds.

Take as long as you want.

The King of Moo · 22-05-2012 08:56AM

Quiet you wrote: »

I think people who don't acknowlege other peoples basic human rights should be considered to have forfeited their own. Also, murderers, rapists and pedophiles should have their organs taken from them and given to someone who deserves a chance at life. If their organs are of no use or there's a surplus they should be used for medical experimentation.

They commit crimes that take or ruin peoples lives so their punishment should be to give life back to decent people. It takes years for a new drug to be given the ok at the cost of millions and many lab animals that have done nothing but be docile so why not cut all that out and just move to experimenting on prisoners? It would save the prison service, court service, social services, the HSE and Gardai time and money due to re offending and the fallout their crimes and inevitable future crimes etc plus the government could possibly make money from them out.

TLDR.... People convicted of serious crimes should have their organs taken from them or be rented out for medical experimentation because they're of less worth to society then a lab animal.

*harvests Quiet you's precious organs*

cloptrop · 22-05-2012 09:06AM

Nodin wrote: »

They abort/expose female foetus/infants because they're female which means theres a large hole in the female demographic - there should be more women than there are.

Large hole in the female demographic ,,, tee hee hee , you said hole in the female,,,,

Susie_Q wrote: »

Nodin, you're absolutely right - I got the figure wrong. It's approximately 30-70 million, which is still a staggering number. There's a very good (and quite short) piece here which gives more info if you're interested:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/global-development/poverty-matters/2011/jul/22/india-sex-selection-missing-women[/QUOTE]

So you suggest the starving parents should have the starving babies that can only hope to live to 16 or whatever and hope someone will marry her for the paltry dowry her father can pay.
Is it true religious organisations work these places and offer food for accepting christianity. Would this be an effort to increase the female population because they are more religious as a demographic and more likely to give birth which brings loads more christians into the world.
Is this a religious abortion issue .

sbsquarepants · 22-05-2012 09:17AM

Quiet you wrote: »

I think people who don't acknowlege other peoples basic human rights should be considered to have forfeited their own. Also, murderers, rapists and pedophiles should have their organs taken from them and given to someone who deserves a chance at life. If their organs are of no use or there's a surplus they should be used for medical experimentation.

They commit crimes that take or ruin peoples lives so their punishment should be to give life back to decent people. It takes years for a new drug to be given the ok at the cost of millions and many lab animals that have done nothing but be docile so why not cut all that out and just move to experimenting on prisoners? It would save the prison service, court service, social services, the HSE and Gardai time and money due to re offending and the fallout their crimes and inevitable future crimes etc plus the government could possibly make money from them out.

TLDR.... People convicted of serious crimes should have their organs taken from them or be rented out for medical experimentation because they're of less worth to society then a lab animal.

Has to be a wind up, or at the very least a drug induced and ill concieved rant come waffle!:D
You think the punishment for not acknowledging the human rights of others, should be to be used as a lab rat for big pharma? Or else have your organs harvested and given to others more worthy of your kidneys, eyes, whatever? Really??? Experiment on prisoners to save the bunnies? You shítting me? Are you that fúcking insane???
Ha ha, just stop and consider that point of view for a while will you, and maybe next time, say things out loud to yourself before typing them out for all the world to see!

cloptrop · 22-05-2012 09:26AM

sbsquarepants wrote: »

Has to be a wind up, or at the very least a drug induced and ill concieved rant come waffle!:D
You think the punishment for not acknowledging the human rights of others, should be to be used as a lab rat for big pharma? Or else have your organs harvested and given to others more worthy of your kidneys, eyes, whatever? Really??? Experiment on prisoners to save the bunnies? You shítting me? Are you that fúcking insane???
Ha ha, just stop and consider that point of view for a while will you, and maybe next time, say things out loud to yourself before typing them out for all the world to see!

What if we only used bunnies that committed crimes.

krudler · 22-05-2012 09:37AM

mikemac1 wrote: »

Angelina Jolie is waaaaaaay overrated

Friends was an awful TV show and I can't believe the success it had
Seinfeld was even worse

Father Ted should have ended after Season Two

pfff, no, one of the best sitcoms ever

Paparazzo · 22-05-2012 09:45AM

IrishAm wrote: »

Tell them to stop building rockets and conducting space programmes and start spending cash on education and feeding their people.

Thanks for proving that people's posts and opinions in this thread can actually get more stupid. Burned badly, but kept pouring petrol on yourself

mikemac1 · 22-05-2012 09:49AM

What's stupid about that?

Why are we giving aid to a country with nuclear weapons, a jet airforce and a space program?

paddyandy · 22-05-2012 09:51AM

The answers and solutions to society's problems are so obvious and simple that everybody ignores them .Instead it's "give us a cheque and we'll be fine ".

The King of Moo · 22-05-2012 09:54AM

mikemac1 wrote: »

What's stupid about that?

Why are we giving aid to a country with nuclear weapons, a jet airforce and a space program?

The aid isn't for the people who design and build the nuclear weapons, jets and rockets.

It's for the people who are starving while the government spends money on the above.

Of course you can say that organisations and governments ought to put pressure on Indian politicians to help their needy, and who's to say that's not happening?
But that doesn't mean that we should stop giving aid to those who need it now.
We can help the needy and try to get their own government to do so at the same time.

If the Indian government diverts more money towards dealing with starvation and other serious issues then we can consider reducing or stopping aid.

But I think refusing to help the needy in order to make their government realise that they should try to take care of them more is a crazy way of going about things.

mikemac1 · 22-05-2012 09:58AM

They're gettting jobs from us anyway, that's something

A protest is taking place at Croke Park in Dublin, in opposition to Vodafone's plans to cut 130 jobs in Ireland.

The company announced in recent weeks that these jobs are to go at its call centres in Dublin and Dundalk.

It is understood their going to be taken up by workers in Egypt and India instead.

The Communications Worker's Union has organised today's protest.

The King of Moo · 22-05-2012 10:02AM

mikemac1 wrote: »

They're gettting jobs from us anyway, that's something

The starving people and those discriminated against aren't getting those jobs, and they're the ones the aid is for.

The King of Moo · 22-05-2012 10:19AM

paddyandy wrote: »

The answers and solutions to society's problems are so obvious and simple that everybody ignores them .Instead it's "give us a cheque and we'll be fine ".

Could you share some of these with us?

Nothingbetter2d · 22-05-2012 10:24AM

Napper Hawkins wrote: »

230 million starving in India eh? Mental.

Out of interest, how many cows are there in India?

if they stopped breeding like f'ing rabbits there would be more food to go round.

over 1.3bil in india

promethius42 · 22-05-2012 10:27AM

Stairway to Heaven is a firmly mediocre tune.

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