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I can't believe there are still Northern Irish people like this.

  • 21-05-2012 09:45PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 186 ✭✭omgitsthelazor


    I decided recently to sign up for a Northern Irish football forum. Why? Because I was interested to see what they were saying on the James McClean twitter stuff. I LIKE LURKING FORUMS OK, don't judge. :(

    The one I found from google was called "our wee country", all posts weren't viewable by default so I registered an account.
    During registration it asked me where I was from from a list of NI, ROI, England, Scotland or other. I picked ROI
    They asked me to wait for an administrator to approve my account, I waited a week and nothing. Eventually I couldn't log in, the administrator had apparently rejected and deleted my account.

    I made another using a northern Irish proxy and lied that I was from NI, this one was approved. And what I see there, my gosh the bitterness, bile and hatred would put even the After Hours hardcore to shame.

    Just some examples.

    -> They refer to the club "Derry City" as "Londonderry City". That isn't its name.

    -> In discussion of an article involving a poor lad getting beaten up in Derry for wearing a NI shirt their collective response to the article is complaining that the media didn't report this enough but report Loyalist led violence a lot. Strangely I didn't see any discussion of loyalist violence in 3 years worth of threads.

    -> In a thread advertising an RTE program on football the spend its duration ranting about how RTE supposedly is the broadcaster for the "free state" but continuously ignores the 6 counties. On the 5th and last page one guy asks "so did anyone watch it?", to which there was no reply.

    -> Language is seemingly a big thing, in a lengthy and non-political thread about the recent world cup bid a nationalist slips a reference to Ireland and NI as "both Irish countries" to which the thread was derailed with much disapprovement and political rebuttal to his utterance. The guy defended it as his beliefs, he was seemingly banned.

    -> The forum claims to welcome NI fans of any background yet it one of its forum categories for Scottish/English football is entitled "the mainland".

    -> Their description for the "other sport" forum is "Rugby, Cricket even GAA!". Why "even" GAA?

    -> They describe NI born players who play for the republic as "defecting". I guess the GFA never happened.

    -> On Darron Gibson closing his twitter account 2 hours after creating it, one of them admits to being responsible for deluging him with abuse. He is promptly congratulated by the rest of them.


    Sorry if I'm not explaining it well but for a sporting website the serious cynical and political tone was a real eye opener for me. They really do appear to attempt to see everything in a nationalist/loyalist light and everything, absolutely everything is about scoring points against one another with a real with/against attitude.
    I thought we'd moved past this kind of thing. :(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27 Undercover FBI Agent


    Meh

    Tossers all over the world unfortunatly


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,581 ✭✭✭TouchingVirus


    When you see Stormfront you'll shít yourself


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,113 ✭✭✭Lumbo


    I was in Belfast at the weekend. Nice little city. Walked past the South Belfast Northern Ireland Supporters club at one stage. Decided it wasn't the best place to nip into for a quick pint.


  • Posts: 6,645 ✭✭✭ Marcel Chilly Viking


    I can't believe anyone in Ireland is naive enough to think there AREN'T a lot of Northern Irish people like this. Narrow mindedness and bigotry are far from uncommon. I was forever meeting friends of friends with views and attitudes like that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,515 ✭✭✭✭admiralofthefleet


    was it anything to do with that bigot willy frazer?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 186 ✭✭omgitsthelazor


    Oh they also have a thread about bars which are blacklisted. Their reasoning for blacklisting includes "a bouncer asked me to take off my NI scarf".
    They were let in and everything, just not allowed display something that could have offended people. Why is that unreasonable or reason to tell a forum that the place is "scum" and nobody should ever go there?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,190 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    Smallminded , insular ,island mentality was always one of the worst attributes to the Norn Irish .Sad to think that it took the events of 9/11 to blow that part of Irelands woes away from the front pages to .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 186 ✭✭omgitsthelazor


    I can't believe anyone in Ireland is naive enough to think there AREN'T a lot of Northern Irish people like this. Narrow mindedness and bigotry are far from uncommon. I was forever meeting friends of friends with views and attitudes like that.

    I was of the impression things weren't as bad as they once were, certainly here I see and hear a lot less bigotry towards protestants nowadays than when I was growing up. I assumed there was similar progression up there


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,364 ✭✭✭golden lane


    please don't think that the majority of ni people are like that......they are just people trying to make their way in this life....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Kidchameleon


    Man if we win the Euro's that site would be troll heaven for me...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,653 ✭✭✭Ghandee


    OP doesn't understand the sit-you-ation up there :pac:


    Seriously though,v there are good and bad on both sides.

    Let them at it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    they're an odd bunch up there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,081 ✭✭✭wellboytoo


    I see the Lazor is still hopping balls....... carefull now lads!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,956 ✭✭✭Doc Ruby


    please don't think that the majority of ni people are like that......they are just people trying to make their way in this life....
    I think its fairly safe to draw a distinction between the "ulster scots" and the Republican camp up there. Of course the whole shambles was set in motion, typically enough, by the english, so credit where credit is due. The likes of Ian Paisley fanning the flames of intolerance and hatred for decades have left their mark on what could have otherwise been quite a nice place.

    Whats the URL of this forum by the way?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,266 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    I am a Nationalist from NI who used to go to NI matches with my dad back int he late 70s and 80s. I enjoyed it myself but I was too young to understand any chanting that was going on.

    They had a major problem back then, and to be fair to a lot of them and the IFA, they have tried really hard to change attitudes at Windsor and among their fans. It has succeeded to a degree but there si still a high number of bigoted ones among them who want nothing to do with anything Nationalist. They are stuck in 1690 and there's no changing them.

    I am a fan of Derry City and recently we had the scumbags of Linfield down with us in the Setanta Cup. Jez, but they are a bad bunch. Hatred, hatred, hatred, and of course always try to shift the blame on to others.

    The history of football in NI has a bad past, and hopefully it can improve, but its going to be a slow process when the majority of its support base see it as a unionist team for a unionist people.

    My last visit to Windsor PArk was maybe with some friends around 15yrs or so ago (v Spain). Something about theplace stil didn't feel welcoming. Perhaps thats as much an issue with me as them? Although a lot of the sectarian chanting was gone, the new chanting had a lot of references to Ulster men etc, and it still didn't feel 'home' for me, which technically it is. And of course the vast majority of Nationalists from NI don't see it as 'their team'.

    As for that forum, I have seen plenty of refernces to it in the past. I know what its like. Put simply, you ain't welcome. I know plenty of Derry fans who used to post on it, but you get banned for questioning anything on it. You have to play by their rules. End of.


  • Posts: 6,645 ✭✭✭ Marcel Chilly Viking


    I was of the impression things weren't as bad as they once were, certainly here I see and hear a lot less bigotry towards protestants nowadays than when I was growing up. I assumed there was similar progression up there

    Why? It's a totally different kettle of fish there. It's a totally different country. When I moved down south for college (in 2003), the cultural differences were so enormous that I might as well have gone abroad. I went from a country where your last name defines you in every aspect of life (it wasn't at all uncommon for strangers to ask 'what you were' on a night out) to one where nobody is even sure whether their friends are Catholic or Protestant. Sure, things are better than they once were but it's far, far, far from being in any way normal.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,846 ✭✭✭Fromthetrees


    Let them at it, we can cream off their best Nationalist players as a result, hey guys, give us Gibson and McClean and ye can have eh...mmm...Paddy McCourt??? Okay?

    Thanks lads. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭IrishAm


    The FAI should set up a meaningless friendly each year with complete minnows and use it as an opportunity just to cap any half decent Northern Irish born player.

    Have a big ceremony before kick off to welcome the 20 newly capped players. Fireworks, shake hands with Michael D, the whole shebang.

    Troll the shit out of them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭Ronin247


    It was a way of life for hundreds of years,it wont change overnight.Religion ruled everything in the North,what area you lived in,what school you went to,where you could and could not socialise and even if you got a job or not.It should be no surprise it is in football too.
    Must register and tell a few Rangers jokes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,211 ✭✭✭Owen_S


    They sent death threats to Neil Lennon for playing for the country.
    They sent death threats to James McClean for not playing for the country.


    They seem like a bright bunch of lads.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 617 ✭✭✭afro man


    Lumbo wrote: »
    I was in Belfast at the weekend. Nice little city. Walked past the South Belfast Northern Ireland Supporters club at one stage. Decided it wasn't the best place to nip into for a quick pint.


    not the most welcoming of pubs even from the outside , you would be a brave man to nip in for a quick pint :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,190 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    They are a very fcuked up bunch of people alreet .

    What's sad is that whoever up there try's to live outside that narrow viewpoint is threatened with god knows what ,so they live within those restrictions of what they can say or do in fear ...just like it was duing the height of the troubles .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 186 ✭✭omgitsthelazor


    wellboytoo wrote: »
    I see the Lazor is still hopping balls....... carefull now lads!

    scuse me? :mad:
    Doc Ruby wrote: »
    I think its fairly safe to draw a distinction between the "ulster scots" and the Republican camp up there. Of course the whole shambles was set in motion, typically enough, by the english, so credit where credit is due. The likes of Ian Paisley fanning the flames of intolerance and hatred for decades have left their mark on what could have otherwise been quite a nice place.

    Whats the URL of this forum by the way?

    http://ourweecountry.co.uk/

    You need to register and for it to be approved to view anything.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,956 ✭✭✭Doc Ruby


    http://ourweecountry.co.uk/

    You need to register and for it to be approved to view anything.
    Wow. Same (ironically) celtic cross as stormfront, same protected forums, the whole package. Its like euro-taleban central. We are going to have a hell of a time bringing that lot into the 21st century after the english finally clear out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Most of that strikes me as pretty mild tbh OP. Not saying it's good or anything, but I've seen/heard of FAR worse...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,930 ✭✭✭Jimoslimos


    Seems rather tame compared to some of the bile out there.

    The "London-Derry" City guff is childish and poor trolling attempt at the very few Nationalist posters.

    Lots of people here jokingly refer to Great Britain as the mainland, given that it's the next biggest landmass. In the context of the political situation up north, another attempted wind-up.

    Suprised to see GAA actually listed as a sport. Progress! There's plenty down here that wouldn't even afford it that privilege.

    As for the NI players declaring for the Republic, think on that one they might need to take a long look in the mirror. It's hard enough to be successful given the tiny population (as well as competing sports), even harder if you alienate a significant proportion of the population. From the ROI point of view I'm happy for them to continue their bigotted points of view........but please please do this BEFORE the player has decided who he wants to play for.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,281 ✭✭✭donegal_road


    go onto youtube and have a look through some of the comments left on videos related to the Troubles, or the paramilitaries. You will get an idea of what kind of attitudes are still alive and well today


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,956 ✭✭✭Doc Ruby


    Domo230 wrote: »
    Fixed your post

    It's all the Frenchs fault really

    Sly bastids.
    The normans were long gone by the time of the plantations.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    As for scotish and english football. In terms of the UK, they are the mainland.

    What really surprises me though is, keith hasn't posted yet.

    :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,515 ✭✭✭LH Pathe


    There'll always be Irish like that. In Ireland; that's what disgusts me so that they've been dragged down to that level by British incursion instilling mannerisms - can't be easy.


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