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Internship scheme offers 5,000 work placements to people on the dole

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭christmas2012


    yore also suggests kicking people off the dole who have no other source of income,either a very inhumane person or someone who doesnt live in the real world much.

    as for the jobbridge job blocking scam,i cannot understand how or why anybody would want to talk it up..

    doesnt make much sense.


    as sunflower said the sooner the more and more people wake up and open their eyes to the vicious scam that job bridge is the better and hopefully it will die a death soon enough.

    people who sign up to job bridge are contributing to unemployment,as the more popular these schemes get the more dangerous it is,as this scam will get more credence and leverage,which it certainly doesnt deserve..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 672 ✭✭✭Battered Mars Bar


    yore also suggests kicking people off the dole who have no other source of income,either a very inhumane person or someone who doesnt live in the real world

    Yore is either Leo Varadkar or just a very deluded individual.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭christmas2012


    yore wrote: »
    Translation:
    I've just finished this scheme and gotten my references/experience. I now want it scrapped right away so that the ladder is pulled up behind me.


    Ladder to what a job scam that targets the unemployed,hardly a fvucking ladder there,you talk a lot of paranoid sh1t..I notice a lot of what you do is **** stir,or say how good these schemes are.. honestly i think you should try doing one of these schemes..I can guarantee you would change your mind very quick on that one..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,127 ✭✭✭yore


    How ironic.

    Governments don't create jobs. So go on, blame the man, scrap full employment and return to jobsbridge so. Break up the collusion of people who won't demean themselves and work for free for X/Y whatever crazy reason you believe.

    At the same time you'll be moaning that people are not doing enough to find full employment. It's laughable.

    to quote myself from a previous post
    Yore wrote:
    Whatever

    Give me one fu$king example of a jobsbridge position where you have to "work for free"...... What's that? Oh, you can't find one. I think you've been talking out your ar$e so.


    Hey, all my friends and close family are employed. The effects on them are secondary n the form of increased taxes to pay for the spongers. I don't live in Ireland or have to pay taxes there. It doesn't bother me too much.
    I left three years ago. Not because I couldn't get a job but because I had a far better opportunity overseas. I had no problem getting offers of jobs back home. That was in the height of the "crisis". If I was back there now I'd pick up some sort of a job fairly handy (in fact a recruitment agency I had gone to when I finished college, last year sent me a email to ask if I was coming back!). I wouldn't be giving a sh1te about internship schemes unless I was taking on an intern as a means for me to give something back to society.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,127 ✭✭✭yore


    Ladder to what a job scam that targets the unemployed,hardly a fvucking ladder there,you talk a lot of paranoid sh1t..I notice a lot of what you do is **** stir,or say how good these schemes are.. honestly i think you should try doing one of these schemes..I can guarantee you would change your mind very quick on that one..


    Sunflower previously posted that she was nearly finished a such a scheme. I asked why she was completing it then if it was so useless and she replied that she'd get a valuable reference that could help her get her next paid job.

    if she started it and believed she'd get absolutely nothing from it, she'd hardly have finished it. She just wants it scrapped now that she is finishing it.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭christmas2012


    You honestly think there is a ladder in this ****ing dead end scheme...WAKE UP..THE HIRING RATE IS POOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOR..


    Which means its mostly used as a free labour scam,just scroll back and see how many users have different snippets of information on just how bad a scam this job bridge ''jobs'' scheme(more like job blocker) is..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,127 ✭✭✭yore


    Yore is either Leo Varadkar or just a very deluded individual.

    I'm not doing too bad for meself for a deluded individual.....although then again, if I'm deluded....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,127 ✭✭✭yore


    You honestly think there is a ladder in this ****ing dead end scheme...WAKE UP..THE HIRING RATE IS POOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOR..

    37 per CENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNT


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭christmas2012


    less than 400/7000 have been ''hired'' out of this free labour scam,i cringe to think what the second roll out will produce,more tears more hardship and more unemployment being perpetuated by these job blocking schemes..

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2012/0510/1224315844050.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 672 ✭✭✭Battered Mars Bar


    yore wrote: »

    to quote myself from a previous post
    Yore wrote:
    Whatever

    Give me one fu$king example of a jobsbridge position where you have to "work for free"...... What's that? Oh, you can't find one. I think you've been talking out your ar$e so.


    Yore "whatever" isn't conducive to our discussion.

    If you genuinely think working behind a deli counter whilst in receipt of social welfare and a 50 euro top up is not classed as working for the shop owner for free and causing a burden on the taxpayer then I despair for this nation if there's many more like you.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,127 ✭✭✭yore


    Ladder to what a job scam that targets the unemployed,hardly a fvucking ladder there,you talk a lot of paranoid sh1t..I notice a lot of what you do is **** stir,or say how good these schemes are.. honestly i think you should try doing one of these schemes..I can guarantee you would change your mind very quick on that one..

    Oh, and also, somewhat ironically for you, here is a link for your perusal

    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/paranoid?s=t


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,127 ✭✭✭yore


    Yore "whatever" isn't conducive to our discussion.

    If you genuinely think working behind a deli counter whilst in receipt of social welfare and a 50 euro top up is not classed as working for the shop owner for free and causing a burden on the taxpayer then I despair for this nation if there's many more like you.

    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/free?s=t

    The shop owner is getting them for free. Free in the sense that no money is changing hands however time/training and other expenses may be incurred.

    The intern gets about 250 quid. Hence not free. Unless they get zero money, it cannot be claimed they are working for free.
    QED


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭christmas2012


    yore wrote: »
    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/free?s=t

    The shop owner is getting them for free. Free in the sense that no money is changing hands however time/training and other expenses may be incurred.

    The intern gets about 250 quid. Hence not free. Unless they get zero money, it cannot be claimed they are working for free.
    QED

    How stupid can one be,of course they are working for free,they get paid by welfare,which makes the whole thing stink to high heaven of jobs scam..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,127 ✭✭✭yore


    less than 400/7000 have been ''hired'' out of this free labour scam,i cringe to think what the second roll out will produce,more tears more hardship and more unemployment being perpetuated by these job blocking schemes..

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2012/0510/1224315844050.html

    That's 400 full time jobs created right there baby!!


    That's without counting the rest who got non-full time permanent positions to bring it up to 37%


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭christmas2012


    In what capacity have they employed them are they part time temps etc?If they got the first taste of the money that can be saved on a free labour scam,there hardly going to want to turn around and employ them full rate..wake up


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭christmas2012


    yore is an insufferable idiot,i have done these schemes and i know what they are all about,free labour..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,127 ✭✭✭yore


    How stupid can one be,of course they are working for free,they get paid by welfare,which makes the whole thing stink to high heaven of jobs scam..

    Again how ironic.....I'm not sure there are any limits.

    My school teachers worked for free so. The idiots. The School was owned and ran by the Christian Brothers, but for some reason they didn't pay the staff directly. Hence they worked for free according to your logic.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭christmas2012


    If the employers arent paying them they have them for free.Do you not understand how this works?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,127 ✭✭✭yore


    yore is an insufferable idiot,i have done these schemes and i know what they are all about,free labour..

    Fair enough. It must make it all the more galling for a genius like you to be doing (what you seem to think are) demeaning schemes when there are idiots like me doing jobs and earning wages that you can probably only dream about.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭christmas2012


    You said yourself you never did one of these schemes,maybe thats why you are idealising these free labour job blocking scams like FAS and JOBBRIDGE so much..


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,127 ✭✭✭yore


    If the employers arent paying them they have them for free.Do you not understand how this works?


    I explained this particular difficult connumndrum only a handful of of posts ago

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=78779490&postcount=1873


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,127 ✭✭✭yore


    You said yourself you never did one of these schemes,maybe thats why you are idealising these free labour job blocking scams like FAS and JOBBRIDGE so much..

    Nope, I've never done one and never would. Simply because I wouldn't be sitting on me hole for the 6 months or whatever it takes to become eligible for one in the first place.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 672 ✭✭✭Battered Mars Bar


    yore wrote: »

    The shop owner is getting them for free. Free in the sense that no money is changing hands however time/training and other expenses may be incurred.

    The intern gets about 250 quid. Hence not free. Unless they get zero money, it cannot be claimed they are working for free.
    QED

    Yore don't link to a dictionary for "free" If you want a discussion on metaphysics we can go elsewhere.

    You see Yore, by your logic the term free in this instance comes at a great cost. The "intern" gets 238 euro of free money, printed by the tax payer.

    If you genuinely think that it will cost the shop owner 11,000 euro to train his deli counter intern as jobsbridge would suggest then you have absolutely no concept of the value of work nor the ability to appraise work in monetary terms. Slavery is for you Yore, be a shmuck all your life then.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭christmas2012


    So you think people are sitting on their backside unemployed for a measly 188 a week or whatever out of choice?

    Do you think people who have been laid off recently are sitting on their hole for 6 months or more out of choice?

    You are deluded..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,127 ✭✭✭yore


    Yore don't link to a dictionary for "free" If you want a discussion on metaphysics we can go elsewhere.

    You see Yore, by your logic the term free in this instance comes at a great cost. The "intern" gets 238 euro of free money, printed by the tax payer.

    If you genuinely think that it will cost the shop owner 11,000 euro to train his deli counter intern as jobsbridge would suggest then you have absolutely no concept of the value of work nor the ability to appraise work in monetary terms. Slavery is for you Yore, be a shmuck all your life then.

    I'm a schmuck alright.

    I work hard, but I'm hardly what you'd call a slave. Suffice to say, I probably have a much better job than the majority of the people on this forum


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,127 ✭✭✭yore


    So you think people are sitting on their backside unemployed for a measly 188 a week or whatever out of choice?

    Do you think people who have been laid off recently are sitting on their hole for 6 months or more out of choice?

    You are deluded..

    Everyone always has a choice.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭christmas2012


    Easy to say in a jobs climate with not even half the amount of jobs advertised,on average in ireland,people applying for jobs at the moment have a 50-1 chance,thats fifty potential employees to one position advertised..

    Talking about choice?Think of the circumstances..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,127 ✭✭✭yore


    Yore don't link to a dictionary for "free" If you want a discussion on metaphysics we can go elsewhere.

    You see Yore, by your logic the term free in this instance comes at a great cost. The "intern" gets 238 euro of free money, printed by the tax payer.

    If you genuinely think that it will cost the shop owner 11,000 euro to train his deli counter intern as jobsbridge would suggest then you have absolutely no concept of the value of work nor the ability to appraise work in monetary terms. Slavery is for you Yore, be a shmuck all your life then.


    Do you want to work in a Deli? There's nothing wrong with that. Believe in yourself and you can do it. Just put your mind to it and anything is possible baby!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 672 ✭✭✭Battered Mars Bar


    yore wrote: »

    I'm a schmuck alright.

    I work hard, but I'm hardly what you'd call a slave. Suffice to say, I probably have a much better job than the majority of the people on this forum

    Is that why you're here then, lambasting strangers just to reassure yourself that your job is a good one and that you're better than some people on an internet forum...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,127 ✭✭✭yore


    easy to say in a jobs climate with not even half the amount of jobs advertised,on average in ireland,people applying for jobs at the moment have a 50-1 chance,thats fifty potential employees to one position advertised..

    Talking about choice?Think of the circumstances..


    I've visited poor countries. Proper poor. Not "My iphone is nearly a year old" poor.

    No dole, feck all supports. The people survive and probably wouldn't see 188 Euro in 6 months. But they'll be out doing what they can to survive.


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