Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 11/12 (End of March 2012 onwards)

Thrill · 17-05-2012 07:10PM

double post

mike65 · 17-05-2012 07:11PM

BBC 5live just said Steve Clarke is still at the club, he had offered his resignation.

Thrill · 17-05-2012 07:12PM

Mario Balotelli ‏@MBB45Official
Wonder when downing get twitter , he may b able assist a tweet !

Blatter · 17-05-2012 07:13PM

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2128493/Wigan-stick-Roberto-Martinez-says-Dave-Whelan.html

Mail are saying that Martinez didn't actually sign the contract extension offered to him last Summer and is now a free agent.

That might be a factor for FSG.

daithijjj · 17-05-2012 07:14PM

Strongbow10 wrote: »

the pulse of the fans has been to accept mediocrity for 20+ years.

Kenny getting the job in the first place was tuning into the pulse of the supporters and he didn't cut it this time unfortunately.

As a fan i'm willing to give them a shot at backing their own man how they see fit.

No doubt you want Rafa back?

Theres no harm having an outsider take the reigns, this constant need to relive past glories and feel safe in the knowledge our manager "gets the club" is a load of tosh.

If anything, an outsider free from all of the emotional nonsense who can keep a cool head, is needed.

No, i actively seek out arguments with Mr Alan over Benitez infact *waves at Mr.Alan*.

I was 50 50 over Rafa but if he got a 7th season i wouldnt have minded, dont want him back now..............but i would have a sharp rethink if things shape up like this over the next few weeks.

If you think people have accepted mediocrity then grand, i wont change your perception if you have had that for 20 years. Its not true mind.

Sir Gallagher · 17-05-2012 07:16PM

Thrill wrote: »

Mario Balotelli ‏@MBB45Official
Wonder when downing get twitter , he may b able assist a tweet !

Sh1t banter from a fellow pro.

Chucky the tree · 17-05-2012 07:17PM

opr wrote: »

Everything points towards them being completely clueless. I have been banging this drum since they made such a mess with Comolli. They hired a DOF in a ludicrous fashion only to sack a year later. They hired a manager only to sack him a year later. I keep hearing people talking about them having balls to make these decisions but they're the ones ****ing things up in the first place. No stadium news, not even an update. No manger, No DOF, No CEO, countless other positions left unfilled.

Now they're looking to make a hugely risky appointment with Martinez. We're a mess but they seem to be getting away with blue murder because they garnered such faith with the buyout.

Opr

Well they were always going to struggle. They hired Comolli to make the footballing decisions and even complete novice football owners realised he was terrible at it.

Melion · 17-05-2012 07:19PM

I honest to fúck cannot wait to bump this thread this time next year to show the majority of people how stupid they are to be writing him off.

daithijjj · 17-05-2012 07:20PM

whatawaster wrote: »

Why would they listen to the fans? We don't need a populist appointment.

Sure we dont, we dont need popular owners either if they are making right decisions. It just begs the question that nobody can answer, who is in charge of directing this club on the pitch right now, in even the slightest role.

Sure, we could all be amazed in 10 days, i wont hold my breath though, its not doomsday scenario, its just vibes i pick up, personal vibes and im spewing it on the internet, so leave me alone ya big bully :pac:

murpho999 · 17-05-2012 07:20PM

I think they are only going to have a discussion with Martinez and other candidates which would be the right thing to do.

Got me thinking though, is there any precedent set of a manager from a smaller/lower end division club (no disrespect to Wigan) being a trophy winning success at a big club?

I'm struggling to think of one.

Leiva · 17-05-2012 07:20PM

I can hear the clatter of ladders as people climb up into the attic to pull out the "Yanks Out" flags.

opr · 17-05-2012 07:23PM

Strongbow10 wrote: »

I think they are the only owners in world football who are being criticised for not having a DOF in place

They've said they see a DOF as central to the vision of the club going forward. If we're in the process of hiring a manager then that DOF should be central to that process. They're also being criticised because they created this cluster**** of a situation by jumping in with two feet appointing a guy on the back of a mates recommendation. Amateur hour doesn't even begin to describe the whole thing.

Strongbow10 wrote: »

Should they hire a new CEO for the sake of it? just to have someone?

They may very well not know their arse from their elbow when it comes to football but on the flip side of that they may just not be comfortable hiring someone who is not the right person.

No harm weighing up your options.

I'd have hoped since these dismissals had been seen coming from a distance out that they would've been heavily involved in finding replacements but here we sit with a multi million pound company having key positions in the club unfilled a good time after the dismissals.

Strongbow10 wrote: »

The stadium is a very unique situation, its going to define the future of the club one way or another both short term and long term. Its no surprise they are taking their time. Their are many factors here, devalued currencies in future may make it a cheaper time to build then it is in 1-2 years.

Such an outlay for only 15k more seats is not worth it, but the fact they havent bit the bullet on anfield redevelopment shows us that they must fancy the new stadium option. But only when market conditions dictate its feasible. and thats being sensible.

I know the stadium is a very complex issue but speak to the people. Give them some sort of update so at least they know you are trying. I am sure they're working on it in the background but it would be nice to keep the fans in some sort of loop on the issue. I am not looking for monthly updates but its been a year and a half and they've said nothing.

Strongbow10 wrote: »

What I like about them is they don't seem to be pandering to the fans giving them what they want, as that would benefit them in the short term but work against them in the long term.

Not pandering to the fans? They appointed Kenny on the back of fan pressure. They let that £100m get spent completely at the will of a DOF they hired on the back of a mates recommendation. They left the club to deal with the Suarez affair alone. I have doubts they have the required financial muscle to move this club forward.

Where have they been strong? Sacking Kenny to hire Martinez, give me a ****ing break.

People seem to be placing faith in these guys to do the right thing for Liverpool FC when they have shown nothing to indicate competence or that we should have faith in them.

I know I would've much rathered put my faith in Kenny.

Opr

jenno86 · 17-05-2012 07:25PM

Thrill wrote: »

Mario Balotelli ‏@MBB45Official
Wonder when downing get twitter , he may b able assist a tweet !

Thats shockingly unfunny.

You should get a yellow card for that at least!

missingtime · 17-05-2012 07:29PM

Anyone seeing that tweet about Jen Chang and director of communications?

Leiva · 17-05-2012 07:29PM

Little did he know ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHZfSOm-bOM

brianregan09 · 17-05-2012 07:31PM

I think Martinez will do a good job if he gets in there always liked him as a manager and someone i could have seen replacing Arsene Wenger best of luck to the lad if he gets and hopefully Pool supporters will give him a chance

Strongbow10 · 17-05-2012 07:33PM

opr wrote: »

They've said they see a DOF as central to the vision of the club going forward. If we're in the process of hiring a manager then that DOF should be central to that process. They're also being criticised because they created this cluster**** of a situation by jumping in with two feet appointing a guy on the back of a mates recommendation. Amateur hour doesn't even begin to describe the whole thing.

I'd have hoped since these dismissals had been seen coming from a distance out that they would've been [B]heavily involved in finding replacements but here we sit with a multi million pound company having key positions in the club unfilled a good time after the dismissals[/B].

I know the stadium is a very complex issue but speak to the people. Give them some sort of update so at least they know you are trying. I am sure they're working on it in the background but it would be nice to keep the fans in some sort of loop on the issue. I am not looking for monthly updates but its been a year and a half and they've said nothing.

Not pandering to the fans? They appointed Kenny on the back of fan pressure. They let that £100m get spent completely at the will of a DOF they hired on the back of a mates recommendation. They left the club to deal with the Suarez affair alone. I have doubts they have the required financial muscle to move this club forward.

Where have they been strong? Sacking Kenny to hire Martinez, give me a ****ing break.

People seem to be placing faith in these guys to do the right thing for Liverpool FC when they have shown nothing to indicate competence or that we should have faith in them.

I know I would've much rathered put my faith in Kenny.

Opr

And they had the humility to get rid of Comolli again quick smart.

It seems we are a multi million pound business when it suits, not a corporation but a football club when it suits aswell. Actively seeking a new manager would have been "disrespectful to the King" in the probable words of most Liverpool fans. So they couldn't win on that front.

The Stadium? They have been giving us updates, they are reviewing the options and being prudent in their cautious approach. Its alot of money, but some would rather we draw a line under it and make a decision so the fans are not left wondering? Gimme a break.

Roberto Martinez has not been hired, don't get your knickers in a twist.

opr · 17-05-2012 07:33PM

Melion wrote: »

I honest to fúck cannot wait to bump this thread this time next year to show the majority of people how stupid they are to be writing him off.

I'm not writing the guy off, I just think we've better options available to us.

Opr

Thrill · 17-05-2012 07:34PM

BBC Sport ‏@BBCSport
Liverpool are also keen to speak to Swansea City manager Brendan Rodgers, BBC Radio 5 live reporter Ian Dennis says.

Who else is on their list I wonder?

Dr Galen · 17-05-2012 07:34PM

missingtime wrote: »

Anyone seeing that tweet about Jen Chang and director of communications?

Yes. If this is true then it's big news. Positive as well. Knows his stuff.

DDC1990 · 17-05-2012 07:34PM

Sir Gallagher wrote: »

Sh1t banter from a fellow pro.

**** banter from an idiot teenager, who is pretending to be Balotelli.

It is clearly a false account. All tweets in Enlish, and all having a go at rivals.

daithijjj · 17-05-2012 07:36PM

missingtime wrote: »

Anyone seeing that tweet about Jen Chang and director of communications?

Im a conspiracy theorist at heart, so the fact Jen Changs last tweet is the same day as the Standard Chartered shareholders meeting that openly discussed LFC, its image etc, on the same fupping day?. Gone on a few days holidays my arse :pac:

Leiva · 17-05-2012 07:36PM

Dr Galen wrote: »

Yes. If this is true then it's big news. Positive as well. Knows his stuff.

Tell me please.

J. Marston · 17-05-2012 07:36PM

Thrill wrote: »

Mario Balotelli ‏@MBB45Official
Wonder when downing get twitter , he may b able assist a tweet !

Sir Gallagher wrote: »

Sh1t banter from a fellow pro.

Mario Balotelli. Professional football player. Official parody. @MCFC football club and Italy , former club @inter.

...

ush · 17-05-2012 07:36PM

DDC1990 wrote: »

**** banter from an idiot teenager, who is pretending to be Balotelli.

It is clearly a false account. All tweets in Enlish, and all having a go at rivals.

What? Its a false account! Well thats a first. Do they really have false account on twitter now?

Strongbow10 · 17-05-2012 07:36PM

Dr Galen wrote: »

Yes. If this is true then it's big news. Positive as well. Knows his stuff.

Jen Chang, new Director of Communications at LFC

Now theres a left of field appointment

Thrill · 17-05-2012 07:37PM

jenno86 wrote: »

Thats shockingly unfunny.

You should get a yellow card for that at least!

Thats from Balotelli's twitter account.

EDIT: Just seen that its a parody acc.

Finical · 17-05-2012 07:37PM

I'd take Martinez instead of Rodgers or Lambert.

Hope they are going for more than just the above at least.

Dr Galen · 17-05-2012 07:38PM

Some talk the Chang was in for meetings around March. I've a lot of time for him as a journo tbh and as a judge of players too. Seems a decent lad as well. I remember myself and a regular from here exchanging a few messages with him last year.

ThunbergsAreGo · 17-05-2012 07:39PM

Thrill wrote: »

Mario Balotelli ‏@MBB45Official
Wonder when downing get twitter , he may b able assist a tweet !

Thats not even funny, just idiotic

Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 11/12 (End of March 2012 onwards)

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