Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 11/12 (End of March 2012 onwards)

Thrill · 17-05-2012 03:45PM

Phoenix Park wrote: »

Think we need a seperate forum for all the Twitter garbage at this stage.

It was on Goal.com and is still on Bleacherreport.com.

Jesus Wept · 17-05-2012 03:46PM

This would be silly.

http://www.crunchsports.com/category/Soccer/Liverpool-FC-DID-try-to-swap-Andy-Carroll-for-Carlos-Tevez-claims-new-book-201205170019/

yesno1234 · 17-05-2012 03:50PM

So lads Owen has been released by United. What would ye say to him returning?

Joke

retalivity · 17-05-2012 03:52PM

Owen can shag off to sunderland or west brom or somewhere

ardinn · 17-05-2012 03:52PM

I'd say let him jog on!

Outkast_IRE · 17-05-2012 03:52PM

yesno1234 wrote: »

So lads Owen has been released by United. What would ye say to him returning?

Joke

if he was only paid on a pay per game basis, otherwise leave him finish his career elsewhere,
but also we have our own older striker with belamy and if it came down to one or the other id pick belamy

So unless belamy leaves and we need an older striker on the banch not a chance it would be pointless

tok9 · 17-05-2012 03:52PM

yesno1234 wrote: »

So lads Owen has been released by United. What would ye say to him returning?

Joke

The same thing we say to Martin O Neill.

**** off Owen.

Thrill · 17-05-2012 03:53PM

yesno1234 wrote: »

So lads Owen has been released by United. What would ye say to him returning?

Joke

No thanks would be the collective answer.

Sir Gallagher · 17-05-2012 03:59PM

daithijjj wrote: »

Absolutely fair enough.

The problem i have is that fans cannot have double standards, and if you dont, you must then expect the same ruthlessness in 12 months surely if it pans out the same?.

30 mil and call the next guy, and the next?.

When we were looking for new owners, pretty much everyone said they wanted owners who would back a manager and give him reasonable time, i dont consider 1 full season time with so many new bodies.

I think theyll give the next manager time no matter what. I dont think they ever seen Kenny as a long term appointment and i think if we are all honest i dont think we did either. It would have been great for Kenny to take us back to the top in a couple of years win a few leqgue titles and then walk off into the sunset but it was a pipe dream and i think it all dawned on us over the course of the season that it wasnt gonna work out that way. Whoever we pick next as .manager will be a risk keeping Kenny on wouldve been a risk too and with how we performed in the league this season itd be fair to say its not a risk worth taking.

tibor · 17-05-2012 04:16PM

opr wrote: »

It's in Graham Hunter's recent book on Barcelona. This also makes interesting reading to see how considered and clever Bergstein is in what he does and they way they waited to employ Guardiola.

Interesting read. I knew there was issues with Ronaldinho/Deco and they had a row with Eto'o after he refused to go on as sub one time, but this seems to imply there were even bigger rifts in the dressing room.

Seems they just thought Rijkaard's heart wasn't in it anymore?
His "cycle" was over. This type of talk was rife when Pep announced he was stepping down too, and there has been talk of Rafa's intense approach burning out players after a few seasons. Begs to question what's so different about their approach to the likes of Ferguson or Wenger who've been operating at the top level at the same club for much longer periods, and how do we get that.

SlickRic · 17-05-2012 04:19PM

ardinn wrote: »

I'd say let him jog on!

he wouldn't jog far before crippling himself again tbh.

Jesus Wept · 17-05-2012 04:21PM

Michael Owen, lol.

daithijjj · 17-05-2012 04:35PM

Sir Gallagher wrote: »

I think theyll give the next manager time no matter what. I dont think they ever seen Kenny as a long term appointment and i think if we are all honest i dont think we did either. It would have been great for Kenny to take us back to the top in a couple of years win a few leqgue titles and then walk off into the sunset but it was a pipe dream and i think it all dawned on us over the course of the season that it wasnt gonna work out that way. Whoever we pick next as .manager will be a risk keeping Kenny on wouldve been a risk too and with how we performed in the league this season itd be fair to say its not a risk worth taking.

Neither of us can predict what the new manager will do or get time wise but all i have to say to folk who think its a good decision, the time was right, hold fire on those assumptions.

Turtyturd · 17-05-2012 04:35PM

I'd take him back then at Christmas try swap him for one of City's forwards.

delw · 17-05-2012 04:43PM

Sir Gallagher wrote: »

I think theyll give the next manager time no matter what. I dont think they ever seen Kenny as a long term appointment and i think if we are all honest i dont think we did either. It would have been great for Kenny to take us back to the top in a couple of years win a few leqgue titles and then walk off into the sunset but it was a pipe dream and i think it all dawned on us over the course of the season that it wasnt gonna work out that way. Whoever we pick next as .manager will be a risk keeping Kenny on wouldve been a risk too and with how we performed in the league this season itd be fair to say its not a risk worth taking.

If this bit were to be true i would of thought they would have a good idea at this stage who they want to replace him with

opr · 17-05-2012 04:49PM

Even Carra manages to come out with a stomach puncher

Carragher said: "I spoke to him just before he was getting on his flight and asked: 'Is it Kenny now or gaffer?' He said: 'It is Kenny now.'

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news/carra-on-kenny-departure

Opr

Devilman40k · 17-05-2012 04:53PM

opr wrote: »

Even Carra manages to come out with a stomach puncher

Carragher said: "I spoke to him just before he was getting on his flight and asked: 'Is it Kenny now or gaffer?' He said: 'It is Kenny now.'

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news/carra-on-kenny-departure

Opr

Rafa's name getting mentioned more often, with Carragher in a coaching role (future manager perhaps?)...

mike65 · 17-05-2012 04:54PM

Devilman40k wrote: »

Rafa's name getting mentioned more often, with Carragher in a coaching role (future manager perhaps?)...

Oh please!

Sorry that should read "oh purleeeze...."

Sir Gallagher · 17-05-2012 04:54PM

daithijjj wrote: »

Neither of us can predict what the new manager will do or get time wise but all i have to say to folk who think its a good decision, the time was right, hold fire on those assumptions.

I understand where youre coming from but i view them as two different instances. I think Kenny going is a good decision but what happens next will be another decision which i will judge on its own merits.

Devilman40k · 17-05-2012 04:55PM

mike65 wrote: »

Oh please!

Sorry that should read "oh purleeeze...."

I know...not sure how I feel about the Carragher part of that

Jesus Wept · 17-05-2012 04:57PM

Let's get Xabi back as player manager. :P

murpho999 · 17-05-2012 05:08PM

How quick do you think they will move on this?

Assume they'd want him in place by time transfer window opens?

Could Euro 2012 be an influence? Any top managers there who might be available after tournament?

missingtime · 17-05-2012 05:09PM

murpho999 wrote: »

How quick do you think they will move on this?

Assume they'd want him in place by time transfer window opens?

Could Euro 2012 be an influence? Any top managers there who might be available after tournament?

I really hope they don't wait till after Euro 2012.

Leiva · 17-05-2012 05:10PM

I am just hoping that there is some super dooper plan in place from the owners that when revealed will have us all like this:

But some how I fear it will be more let down and something like this:

17-05-2012 05:11PM

I'd like Alonso and Torres back with Rafa please.

Too much to ask?

From a wage bill point of view, probably !

17-05-2012 05:13PM

missingtime wrote: »

I really hope they don't wait till after Euro 2012.

Disaster if they do tbh.

A month then to kick off with no signings.

Need a new boss in asap, before Euro's.

Kess73 · 17-05-2012 05:13PM

Devilman40k wrote: »

Rafa's name getting mentioned more often, with Carragher in a coaching role (future manager perhaps?)...

Rafa with Carragher on his coaching staff. When hell freezes over methinks, and not in an Eagles kinda way.

Turtyturd · 17-05-2012 05:16PM

Just while Torres was mentioned....did he comment on FSG saying that not all was what it seemed?

redzerdrog · 17-05-2012 05:17PM

Kess73 wrote: »

Rafa with Carragher on his coaching staff. When hell freezes over methinks, and not in an Eagles kinda way.

Rafa with Hamamm on his coaching staff I can get on board with

Knex* · 17-05-2012 05:18PM

opr wrote: »

Even Carra manages to come out with a stomach puncher

Carragher said: "I spoke to him just before he was getting on his flight and asked: 'Is it Kenny now or gaffer?' He said: 'It is Kenny now.'

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news/carra-on-kenny-departure

Opr

Wouldn't say I'm overly disapointed with Kenny being sacked. Depending on the manager appointed I could either be very happy (Rafa, AVB etc) or pissed (Martinez, O Neill etc), but reading stuff like that about an absolute legend is quite sad I must say so apologies if this post gets a little ghey.

The man truely gets this club, more so than any other manager out there with the exception maybe of Rafa, and even he I'd say has a bit to go yet. It shows through constantly in his interviews about the club, espescially his departing one that was posted earlier.

He humbles himself, without fail, whenever dealing with Liverpool Football Club and will never ever allow himself or anyone think they are bigger than it. No one will hurt more than Kenny about failing in the league, his passion was and is never in doubt. Just look at that photo from after the Man City game when the man was in tears.

I just hope the next manager we decide to hire really is of a better quality than Kenny, and that they can someday "get" Liverpool Football Club as much as he did.

I must say, just writing this has made me appreciate, once again, him coming in and steadying the ship after the disaster that was Hodgson and helping to solidify this club once more.

Unfortunately things didn't work out, maybe they could of, but for me I'm not so sure. Its time to move on and hopefully FSG will make the right choice and we'll have no regrets.

But for now, thanks again Kenny.

Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 11/12 (End of March 2012 onwards)

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