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  • #392
    manwithaplan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,201 ✭✭✭manwithaplan


    The new course is great - one for a Belgian hard man. It was good fast hard racing all round. I felt fairly good so was more than happy to do a bit of work. Did about 100k including the ride out and back. It beats the arse off riding training spins on your own.

    Group 2 got the pots. I was happy enough to stay away from scratch.


  • #393
    Dermot Illogical
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,131 ✭✭✭Dermot Illogical


    Beasty wrote: »
    Now why does that not surprise me?;)

    I was second last finisher I think

    Nah! I think there were three behind you. :)


  • #394
    bbolger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 191 ✭✭bbolger


    greenmat wrote: »
    They did indeed, just about. Worked my ass off tonight so we could stay away (Group 2), was surprised we did as I thought we didn't work too well together. I gave it everything and very happy with 5th place. :)

    In G2 too, have to agree with you, up & overs were there at times but just not consistent enough. Felt like I did my share and happy to stay away, just missing out on a top 10.


  • #395
    killalanerr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,322 ✭✭✭killalanerr


    Not sure what happened G3 small group to start with,at the top of hill on the first lap their were only 4 of us left we rode well together but were caught by G4 just before the school on the last lap where MWP was dish-in out the pain some boy to go up hill that man,hung on till the finish with G4,well done to G2 for staying clear i hope to see a few of you up with us in G3 next week


  • #396
    Lusk Doyle
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,365 ✭✭✭Lusk Doyle


    Group 3 was very surprising yesterday evening. We set off and at the filling station where we turned right the first time I was at the front. I was feeling good so didn't mind if I had any prolonged periods at the front pulling the group along. Very quickly there was just three of us (me, Killalaner and another lad in black and green). How had this gap formed so soon into the race? I made a quick calculation that if this had happened so soon that the group would never catch the earlier groups and would indeed be caught by the later groups and decided to push on in order to catch the others up front.

    The three of us were then joined by the small dublin wheelers chap, the lad who wears the quickstep gear on the Saturday morning spin (I think), one of the Coleman bros and number 288 in a black jersey. We all pushed on but I found that each time another person came to the front that the pace was dropping too much. I knew that I had a chance to get away and maybe catch those in front. The first part of group three was never going to be able to make it, it was clear to me.

    We passed Raam and his lady at one junction and they shouted 6"35 to the front of the race or something like that. We kept going. I was constantly at the front now and at the base of Ardcath I decided to go alone and try to catch the lads up the road so I pushed on up the hill and got a nice gap very quickly.

    The next time passing Raam and co the gap was down to approximately 2"30 or so. Feeling good and closing fast I was spurred on. Out of the saddle on all the drags powering up the road I was beginning to pass the stragglers from earlier and just before the last left turn before the run up to Ardcath I saw the lead group.

    At the bend in the road in Ardcath the next groups lead car came past me and I got such a fright and thought that the game was up. Not so - they were still way back as I crested the hill for the last time. Passed more riders on the final run in to Garristown and as I crested the top of the last hill before the finish I had almost bridged the gap but it was too late and there was not enough road left to get across. Dave, in the orange team Worc gear came past me on the hill but was also unable to get up for a place.

    I really enjoyed that race and was delighted with how strong I felt all the way through. No result but that matters not a bit!

    Edit: Average speed 37.1kph, Max speed 67.1kph, Total time 57:22, Cadence 80, Average HR 174, Max HR 189, Strava Analysis - "Sufferfest"!!!


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  • #397
    RO 06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 321 ✭✭RO 06


    Lusk Doyle wrote: »
    Group 3 was very surprising yesterday evening. We set off and at the filling station where we turned right the first time I was at the front. I was feeling good so didn't mind if I had any prolonged periods at the front pulling the group along. Very quickly there was just three of us (me, Killalaner and another lad in black and green). How had this gap formed so soon into the race? I made a quick calculation that if this had happened so soon that the group would never catch the earlier groups and would indeed be caught by the later groups and decided to push on in order to catch the others up front.

    The three of us were then joined by the small dublin wheelers chap, the lad who wears the quickstep gear on the Saturday morning spin (I think), one of the Coleman bros and number 288 in a black jersey. We all pushed on but I found that each time another person came to the front that the pace was dropping too much. I knew that I had a chance to get away and maybe catch those in front. The first part of group three was never going to be able to make it, it was clear to me.

    We passed Raam and his lady at one junction and they shouted 6"35 to the front of the race or something like that. We kept going. I was constantly at the front now and at the base of Ardcath I decided to go alone and try to catch the lads up the road so I pushed on up the hill and got a nice gap very quickly.

    The next time passing Raam and co the gap was down to approximately 2"30 or so. Feeling good and closing fast I was spurred on. Out of the saddle on all the drags powering up the road I was beginning to pass the stragglers from earlier and just before the last left turn before the run up to Ardcath I saw the lead group.

    At the bend in the road in Ardcath the next groups lead car came past me and I got such a fright and thought that the game was up. Not so - they were still way back as I crested the hill for the last time. Passed more riders on the final run in to Garristown and as I crested the top of the last hill before the finish I had almost bridged the gap but it was too late and there was not enough road left to get across. Dave, in the orange team Worc gear came past me on the hill but was also unable to get up for a place.

    I really enjoyed that race and was delighted with how strong I felt all the way through. No result but that matters not a bit!
    You must have been up all night writing that. Nico doesn't even write that much for a stage of the tour.
    Well done anyway. Group 4 for you next week. Seems you are too strong for 3


  • #398
    Lusk Doyle
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,365 ✭✭✭Lusk Doyle


    RO 06 wrote: »
    You must have been up all night writing that. Nico doesn't even write that much for a stage of the tour.
    Well done anyway. Group 4 for you next week. Seems you are too strong for 3

    To be fair, there is only so many words one can use for "I did nothing"!!!


  • #399
    Lusk Doyle
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,365 ✭✭✭Lusk Doyle


    manwithaplan wrote: »
    The new course is great


    +1 on this. I really liked that course.


  • #400
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 78,496 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Lusk Doyle wrote: »
    I made a quick calculation that if this had happened so soon that the group would never catch the earlier groups and would indeed be caught by the later groups and decided to push on in order to catch the others up front.
    I'd be interested to see the mathematice supporting that quick calculation;)

    Until Ardcath first time round we were never more than about 100m behind, and on a couple of occasions almost closed the gap. Basically you had 3 up front, another 4 who presumably bust a gut to catch you, and another 6 who could not quite make it.

    Now there was no way I would have hung on to the group up Ardcath even first time, but If you guys had not pushed on and we had a group of 13 rather than 2 groups of 7 and 6 respectively the "workload" would have been spread, and we would have reached Ardcath quicker. The 4 who could have got up would have helped on the second lap, and I reckon you would have had a much better chance of catching Group 2 with time to spare and opportunity to recover before the final push. Your tactics probably cost you the race ....


  • #401
    Lusk Doyle
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,365 ✭✭✭Lusk Doyle


    Beasty wrote: »
    Now there was no way I would have hung on to the group up Ardcath even first time, but If you guys had not pushed on and we had a group of 13 rather than 2 groups of 7 and 6 respectively the "workload" would have been spread, and we would have reached Ardcath quicker. The 4 who could have got up would have helped on the second lap, and I reckon you would have had a much better chance of catching Group 2 with time to spare and opportunity to recover before the final push. Your tactics probably cost you the race ....

    You see I disagree with you here because of what I noticed which you seem to have missed in my report. See below.
    Lusk Doyle wrote: »
    We all pushed on but I found that each time another person came to the front that the pace was dropping too much. I knew that I had a chance to get away and maybe catch those in front. The first part of group three was never going to be able to make it, it was clear to me.

    The problem I found was that the workload wasn't being spread and that only a few were able to contribute but even at that the pace was too low to be effective. Had we slowed further to let others catch up we would never have caught them up ahead. I don't doubt that had there been another few who were able to stick with me we would have caught the leaders earlier on the last climb but there simply wasn't anyone that was up to the task :(

    Maybe I'm right, maybe you're right. The important thing is that we all suffered and can now go on to suffer better next week :D


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  • #402
    manwithaplan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,201 ✭✭✭manwithaplan


    Hit the "thanks" button, Beasty. You know you want to.


  • #403
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 78,496 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    manwithaplan wrote: »
    Hit the "thanks" button, Beasty. You know you want to.
    He's got one, and he's not gettting another until he reports back on his exploits in Group 4


  • #404
    Lusk Doyle
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,365 ✭✭✭Lusk Doyle


    Beasty wrote: »
    He's got one, and he's not gettting another until he reports back from his exploits in Group 4

    You're getting cranky in your old age! :pac:

    BTW - what's the view like from the back of the race? :pac::pac::pac:


  • #405
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 78,496 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    ... one thing I would add is there were about 18 names called out in Group 2, but for some reasons around 25 set-off in the Group;)


  • #406
    Lusk Doyle
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,365 ✭✭✭Lusk Doyle


    Very unsporting behaviour indeed. Yellow cards all around!


  • #407
    Staro
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 296 ✭✭Staro


    The new course is great - one for a Skinny Belgian hard man.

    Well done last night, as a result of four/five of you working well together you stayed away from the scratch group and almost caught the lead group.

    With the form your in you should do very will in Gorey at the weekend.


  • #408
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 78,496 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Lusk Doyle wrote: »
    BTW - what's the view like from the back of the race? :pac::pac::pac:
    Never quite been there ... can tell you what it's like to win one though:D


  • #409
    dario28
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭dario28


    Lusk Doyle wrote: »
    I don't doubt that had there been another few who were able to stick with me we would have caught the leaders earlier on the last climb but there simply wasn't anyone that was up to the task :(


    Im pretty sure I heard you shout this as you rode through like a mad man off the front

    http://behance.vo.llnwd.net/profiles21/307197/projects/952241/e218a586ddeaf9b40c591df5193cde32.jpg


  • #410
    Lusk Doyle
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,365 ✭✭✭Lusk Doyle


    BTW - Many thanks to Joe, Breda and all the marshals for their efforts and the time gap updates.


  • #411
    Raam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,318 ✭✭✭✭Raam


    Do riders prefer to get the time gap to the group ahead or to the front group? I was giving the gap to the front group and calling it as such.


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  • #412
    Dermot Illogical
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,131 ✭✭✭Dermot Illogical


    Raam wrote: »
    Do riders prefer to get the time gap to the group ahead or to the front group? I was giving the gap to the front group and calling it as such.

    Or in beasty's case, the gap to the OoM?


    :pac:


  • #413
    dooverylittle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 407 ✭✭dooverylittle


    Can someone tell me which circuit is being used next week.
    Swords site says venue is fieldstown. Is fieldstown the "White house circuit" http://www.swordscc.com/ ie flat as a pan cake?


  • #414
    Lusk Doyle
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,365 ✭✭✭Lusk Doyle


    Raam wrote: »
    Do riders prefer to get the time gap to the group ahead or to the front group? I was giving the gap to the front group and calling it as such.

    The front for me.


  • #415
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 78,496 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Lusk Doyle wrote: »
    The front for me.
    The front if there's one group ahead - both if there's 2!!

    I actually prefer to know the immediate target, on the basis that the first group should be slowest, and if you can catch the next group ahead then hopefully the enlarged group will be a little faster, hopefully making the next catch a bit faster.

    The problem with this approach is if Group 2 have already caught and passed Group 1!


  • #416
    Raam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,318 ✭✭✭✭Raam


    Front group it is.


  • #417
    RO 06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 321 ✭✭RO 06


    Beasty wrote: »
    Lusk Doyle wrote: »
    The front for me.
    The front if there's one group ahead - both if there's 2!!

    I actually prefer to know the immediate target, on the basis that the first group should be slowest, and if you can catch the next group ahead then hopefully the enlarged group will be a little faster, hopefully making the next catch a bit faster.

    The problem with this approach is if Group 2 have already caught and passed Group 1!
    All rosey in the garden again for you two.


  • #418
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 78,496 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    RO 06 wrote: »
    All rosey in the garden again for you two.
    No - I want to settle it with a race - he chooses the distance, I choose the course ....:D


  • #419
    RO 06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 321 ✭✭RO 06


    Beasty wrote: »
    RO 06 wrote: »
    All rosey in the garden again for you two.
    No - I want to settle it with a race - he chooses the distance, I choose the course ....:D
    TT


  • #420
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 78,496 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    dooverylittle wrote: »
    Can someone tell me which circuit is being used next week.
    Swords site says venue is fieldstown. Is fieldstown the "White house circuit" http://www.swordscc.com/ ie flat as a pan cake?
    Starting in Garristown - details here


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  • #421
    Staro
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 296 ✭✭Staro


    Beasty wrote: »
    No - I want to settle it with a race - he chooses the distance, I choose the course ....:D

    I suggest 3 laps of the Harry Reynolds circuit?????


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