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Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 11/12 (End of March 2012 onwards)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,588 ✭✭✭daithijjj


    They wouldn't let him go. Anyway, i genuinely think he's overrated myself. We'd have to really overpay for the guy, i'd prefer to look abroad.

    To be perfectly honest, and i know it sounds mad with them in a CL final, but imho that dressing room is fractured. There are a group who play and a group who put up with the circus and pick up a pay cheque. I think Sturidge is in the group that is disillusioned.

    Earlier in the season, when City played at Chelsea, Mancini said....

    "I asked him last year, 'Why did you leave Manchester City?' and he said he doesn't know. It was strange, because someone let him out of the club. For sure he was one of the best young players that was here. Sometimes it's difficult with a young player,but it was not difficult to see if Sturridge was a good player. If he was here today he'd be in the first team."

    That comment was made in December and on his current form.

    While im not saying he is the answer, id just like to point out how he flourished at Bolton in a team without the circus and stable selections. Not saying he would leave Chelsea either but i wouldnt dismiss the player altogether, he is only 22 like.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,646 ✭✭✭✭Vicxas


    Would love to see Murhinio. A 3 way bitching match between him, Fergie and Manchini would be brilliant.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,952 ✭✭✭Morzadec


    This is all very exciting isn't it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Morzadec wrote: »
    This is all very exciting isn't it?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭Luckycharms_74


    Morzadec wrote: »
    This is all very exciting isn't it?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,617 ✭✭✭✭Cartman78


    Morzadec wrote: »
    This is all very exciting isn't it?

    The last couple of days have been more entertaining than most of our home games this season.

    Have mixed feelings about Kenny at the moment....he did an unbelievable job picking up the pieces after Hodgson. In hindsight, if he had stepped aside in the summer it probably would have been the best for all involved.

    Major test now for FSG


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,267 ✭✭✭opr


    Guillem Balague ‏@GuillemBalague
    About next LFC manager. Agree with most,Rafa and also AVB would be for different reasons good for the club. But neither have been approached

    Opr


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,117 ✭✭✭✭Leiva


    @LFC: Ian Ayre on Kenny and the future: http://t.co/ZZm2QdI3

    I'm sorry but that interview is full of waffle and concerns me .

    In one breath he is saying there is a plan in place, in the background, conducted the "Liverpool way " for months now, and in another he says that they need to identify managerial targets first.

    Bullshít I say .

    As I said yesterday FSG are either extremely smart or extremely stupid.

    Only time will tell .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,952 ✭✭✭Morzadec


    Lads what do you think is the timeline in place for getting the new manager? Would be good to get one in before the end of the month, but if FSG have no one lined up yet the whole process could take a while...

    I hope they're working their balls off behind the scenes to fill all the vacant positions that need filling, not just that of manager


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,267 ✭✭✭opr


    Exclusive Interview: Kenny Dalglish thanks Liverpool FC fans and players and urges everyone to stick by US owners
    KENNY DALGLISH today delivered a heartfelt message of thanks to Liverpool FC supporters as he started coming to terms with being sacked as Anfield manager.

    The club legend and departed Reds boss, who was dismissed late yesterday by Boston based owners Fenway Sports Group, also called on Liverpool fans to stick by the owners who pulled the plug on his reign after just 16 months.

    Dalglish, now on holiday abroad, told the ECHO late last night: “The response from the supporters on social media websites has been overwhelming and very, very humbling. Liverpool is still a great football club, still a club that should believe in whoever is going to come in after myself.

    Read more: Kenny Dalglish - a round-up of our coverage so far

    “Hopefully they will support that person as well as they have supported myself, which has been fantastic. The support the fans gave us was a huge influence in winning that (Carling Cup) trophy.

    “To be perfectly honest, in most of the games this season the players have covered themselves with great credit. They have been a credit to themselves and to the football club.”

    Added Dalglish, whose high profile signings included young stars like Andy Carroll and Jordan Henderson: “You cannot underestimate the pressure that is on a boy who comes to play for Liverpool.

    “But in the first year, what they have done has been a credit.

    “There is now a great foundation to build on and to move forward with. The supporters, not just for myself but for everyone else, have always been fantastically supportive of the team – and that should not change.

    “No one should underestimate the role the Liverpool fans play - or the appreciation the players have for the supporters.

    “Taking aside the decision made about myself, for four players to be in Roy Hodgson’s England squad for Euro 2012, and for Jordan Henderson to be on standby as well, is a great credit to the players.

    “It’s fantastic for the club and those players – and I hope they go on and represent everybody well.”

    Added Dalglish: “The fans will always, always stick with Liverpool Football Club and support the players and the team and the person that is to be the next manager of the club. That’s the way these fans have been brought up and that’s the way it should continue.

    “For me it’s obviously going to be different, not being involved in the way I have been as before. But that doesn’t mean I don’t want Liverpool to go on now and be really successful. And that’s the same for anyone who now comes in to the club.

    “What Liverpool FC deserves and the supporters deserve is far more important than me.”

    Regarding the American owners, under fire from some LFC fans over the controversial decision, he said: “I would hope nobody would prejudge things now. The owners have their own reasons for doing what they have done.

    "They came in to help the club at a time when it wasn’t in a great condition. They have improved it, taken it forward and are doing the best they can.”

    Opr


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,117 ✭✭✭✭Leiva


    Morzadec wrote: »
    Lads what do you think is the timeline in place for getting the new manager? Would be good to get one in before the end of the month, but if FSG have no one lined up yet the whole process could take a while...

    I hope they're working their balls off behind the scenes to fill all the vacant positions that need filling, not just that of manager

    This cannot take a long while .

    It would be a disaster on new players signing to let this fester over the summer.

    Think about it would you sign for a club who is currently managerless, CL less, and seemingly with no direction or anyone at the wheel.

    This needs to be sorted now . No excuses.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,725 ✭✭✭gafferino


    So is Clarke actually gone?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,952 ✭✭✭Morzadec


    Fair play to Dalglish. Not a hint of bitterness. Only looking out for the club's interests, and I agree 100% that for now fans really need to get behind whoever is appointed and continue to support the owners. Like he said, they had their reasons.

    To all those rival fans who call him a bitter and despicable man who lacks class, maybe they should read the above statement and revise their opinion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,952 ✭✭✭Morzadec


    gafferino wrote: »
    So is Clarke actually gone?

    Yes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,725 ✭✭✭gafferino




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,073 ✭✭✭Devilman40k


    What is the process now in the recruitment of a new manager?

    It's essentially the same as it's always been at Liverpool Football Club. Whether it was the board of Liverpool recruiting Bill Shankly many years ago or the recruitment of Kenny Dalglish 18 months ago, it's the same process. The board will create a criteria of what that manager should look like and we'll match that with the best possible candidates and make a decision on that basis.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,725 ✭✭✭gafferino


    The Rafa thing baffles me.

    He did some great things for our club...particularly with the youth system and all that. The we played under him sometimes and his decisions made me want to rip my arm off and slap him in the goatee.
    Yeah we won trophies -albite not a huge amount- but take the CL out (I know, I know it was absolutely amazing but there was an element of luck) and its not so pretty. We had ONE really good season where we actually challenged till the end. I appreciated his time with us but I dont want him back. Despite great european nights that people go on about all the time in here, there were a lot more frustrating times as well.
    We need to move on - Klopp please :cool:


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 5,623 Mod ✭✭✭✭spockety


    gafferino wrote: »
    The Rafa thing baffles me.

    He did some great things for our club...particularly with the youth system and all that. The we played under him sometimes and his decisions made me want to rip my arm off and slap him in the goatee.
    Yeah we won trophies -albite not a huge amount- but take the CL out (I know, I know it was absolutely amazing but there was an element of luck) and its not so pretty. We had ONE really good season where we actually challenged till the end. I appreciated his time with us but I dont want him back. Despite great european nights that people go on about all the time in here, there were a lot more frustrating times as well.
    We need to move on - Klopp please :cool:


    F**kin' hell.

    :rolleyes:

    Some people's attitude towards Rafa is utterly utterly bizarre. We can only dream of having a manager like him again. John Henry should be at Rafa's front door begging through his letter box.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,942 ✭✭✭missingtime


    gafferino wrote: »
    The Rafa thing baffles me.

    He did some great things for our club...particularly with the youth system and all that. The we played under him sometimes and his decisions made me want to rip my arm off and slap him in the goatee.
    Yeah we won trophies -albite not a huge amount- but take the CL out (I know, I know it was absolutely amazing but there was an element of luck) and its not so pretty. We had ONE really good season where we actually challenged till the end. I appreciated his time with us but I dont want him back. Despite great european nights that people go on about all the time in here, there were a lot more frustrating times as well.
    We need to move on - Klopp please :cool:

    I would rather have a lucky manager than a smart manager....They win trophies, and they make us lucky.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 907 ✭✭✭tibor


    Reports on the twitter box that FSG were actively trying to sell the club a few months ago.

    http://bit.ly/Jhq3wE


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,904 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,256 ✭✭✭Sappy404


    From Louis van Gaal's Wiki:
    Manager
    Team From To Record
    G W D L Win %
    Ajax 1991 1997 286 196 51 39 68.53
    Barcelona 1997 20 May 2000 166 92 30 44 55.42
    Netherlands 2000 31 January 2002 14 8 4 2 57.14
    Barcelona 2002 28 January 2003 30 16 5 9 53.33
    AZ 1 July 2005 30 June 2009 174 101 37 36 58.05
    Bayern Munich 1 July 2009 10 April 2011 77 47 16 14 61.04

    Honours

    Ajax

    Eredivisie (3): 1993–94, 1994–95, 1995–96
    Johan Cruijff Shield (3): 1993, 1994, 1995
    KNVB Cup: 1992–93
    UEFA Cup: 1991–92
    UEFA Champions League: 1994–95
    Runner-up: 1996
    UEFA Super Cup: 1995
    Intercontinental Cup: 1995

    Barcelona

    La Liga (2): 1997–98, 1998–99
    Copa del Rey: 1997–98
    UEFA Super Cup: 1997

    AZ

    Eredivisie: 2008–09

    Bayern Munich

    Fußball-Bundesliga: 2009–10
    DFB-Pokal: 2009–10
    DFB-Supercup: 2010
    UEFA Champions League: Runner-up 2010

    Not a bad choice IMO. Was also 40-1 on betfair yesterday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,366 ✭✭✭Crash Bang Wall


    I dont think van Gaal will be the choice.

    If they are looking at a younger manager, and Rafa is being omitted for this reason, then surely van Gaal is not an option


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,725 ✭✭✭gafferino


    spockety wrote: »
    F**kin' hell.

    :rolleyes:

    Some people's attitude towards Rafa is utterly utterly bizarre. We can only dream of having a manager like him again. John Henry should be at Rafa's front door begging through his letter box.

    Why is that utterly bizarre? As I said I appreciated him when he was with us and we had fantastic times.....but also unfantastic times. I dont think its bizarre to not want him back. I just dont worship everything he did and remember being frustrated a lot when he was in charge.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭amiable


    Sappy404 wrote: »
    From Louis van Gaal's Wiki:

    Not a bad choice IMO. Was also 40-1 on betfair yesterday.

    Who do you think will be on the shortlist?

    I'd say AVB, Capello, Lambert, Rafa, Rodgers, Rijkaard and Deschamps.

    I'm probably missing a name or 2?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,117 ✭✭✭✭Leiva


    gafferino wrote: »
    Why is that utterly bizarre? As I said I appreciated him when he was with us and we had fantastic times.....but also unfantastic times. I dont think its bizarre to not want him back. I just dont worship everything he did and remember being frustrated a lot when he was in charge.

    It's not bizarre to not want him back, but it is bizarre to try and amputate the CL win out of his record to strengthen a point .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,725 ✭✭✭gafferino


    Yeah thats fair enough Leiva....im not trying to take it out....probably my best memory as a Liverpool Supporter (i was a pup in the 80's!).
    I just feel strongly that he's not the right person for us now. I do love Rafa though and what he did/does on loads of different fronts for the club- its just on the pitch it wasnt always great and I think we need new blood.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 5,623 Mod ✭✭✭✭spockety


    gafferino wrote: »
    Why is that utterly bizarre? As I said I appreciated him when he was with us and we had fantastic times.....but also unfantastic times. I dont think its bizarre to not want him back. I just dont worship everything he did and remember being frustrated a lot when he was in charge.

    We will all be frustrated no matter what manager is in charge.

    United fans get frustrated all the time with Fergie. City fans have been frustrated with Mancini. Arsenal fans get frustrated with Wenger.

    Yet these are all title delivering managers.

    There is no perfect manager.

    People think Liverpool fans are deluded because they believe success is just around the corner. They're not, they're deluded because they believe perfection is just around the next corner. It is unattainable. It doesn't exist.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,588 ✭✭✭daithijjj


    Van Gaal had an almost identical win ratio to Jurgen Klinnsman at Bayern.

    Well down my list of who id like in, 2nd page nearly.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,725 ✭✭✭gafferino


    Agreed Spockety.

    Im not dillusional.....like us all though i really need some respite from the last few seasons of turmoil. There would be too much baggage with Rafa.


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