Rangers FC lodge papers to go into administration

Dempsey · 15-05-2012 07:12PM

There is chatter of a Livingston boycott now

bobmalooka · 15-05-2012 07:23PM

Dempsey wrote: »

There is chatter of a Livingston boycott now

:eek::eek:

Please tell me this is true :pac::pac:

Jelle1880 · 15-05-2012 07:28PM

Dempsey wrote: »

There is chatter of a Livingston boycott now

Not really though. :rolleyes:

Dempsey · 15-05-2012 07:40PM

Jelle1880 wrote: »

Not really though. :rolleyes:

You're right its probably just some Rangers fans talking shíte.

Still though, it will be a spectacular Nixon list when the big punishments starting getting handed out. :pac:

RoryMac · 16-05-2012 08:06AM

Reports suggest there will be no decision on Rangers appeal today, it's said the SFA will consider the appeal today and announce a decision tomorrow.

Dempsey · 16-05-2012 03:46PM

http://leggoland2.blogspot.co.uk/

THERE are growing fears that Charles Green has not got anywhere near the 20 worldwide investors he claims are backing the bid to buy Rangers which he is fronting.

And there are now also questions being asked as to just where the £8.5M Green has deposited in a client account with London lawyers, Field Fisher Waterhouse, has come from.

On top of which, there is the highly controversial figure of agent Paul Stretford, someone else with close links to Charles Green and who McDonald had admitted has been earmarked as the man who will have all the responsibility of buying and selling players, should the Green Gang get their claws into Rangers.

Stretford was involved in a sensational blackmail case at Warrington Crown Court in 2004. The case collapsed when it was proven that, when giving evidence, Stretford had misled the court.

The Football Association moved in and after examining all the court papers they handed down their judgment on 53-year-old former vacuum cleaner salesman, Stretford.

Paul Stretford was BANNED from operating as an agent for 18 months and FINED a staggering £300,000.

The court case followed a row over Wayne Rooney and who owned the rights to represent him. During the court case evidence was heard and reported that Stretford was at a meeting in a hotel which was attended by one of Britain’s most notorious gangsters, Tommy Adams, of the North London-Irish crime family, the Adams Family.

Evidence was also led which alleged that Adams was there at the invitation of Kenny Dalglish, who was then the owner TWO MILLION shares in Stretford’s Proactive company and who recruited players for Stretford.

This is the man Charles Green’s crony, his business associate, his big boss, Mike McDonald, wants to hand the Ibrox cheque book to.

And there is an increasing belief that these are the men – Charles Green, Mike McDonald and Paul Stretford – who ARE the SOLE investors in the move to snare Rangers on the cheap.

That there are NO men, NO families, from Europe, Singapore, India, Kuwait or Abu Dhabi, the places where Green and McDonald have said the MEN OF MYSTERY are mustering.

There could though be an involvement from a fifth man, though not financially. A Scot! A man with a high profile in football. Someone with close links to Stretford. But he is still in a job and cannot be named.

YET!

The murky picture which Charles Green has attempted to keep dark and mysterious and in the shadows, is now beginning to emerge into the daylight.

And with someone like Paul Stretford at its centre, it is not a very pretty picture.

It wouldnt surprise me

jack presley · 16-05-2012 05:09PM

Dempsey wrote: »

http://leggoland2.blogspot.co.uk/

It wouldnt surprise me

Who's this Dave Leggat? Does he have any credentials or is he the internet equivalent of 'a guy down the pub' whose opinions can be taken with a pinch of salt?

Dempsey · 16-05-2012 05:18PM

jack presley wrote: »

Who's this Dave Leggat? Does he have any credentials or is he the internet equivalent of 'a guy down the pub' whose opinions can be taken with a pinch of salt?

He's worse but he does have Rangers fans eating out of the palm of his hand at times.

Until the names of the consortium are revealed Green's claim that there is 20 people stumping up a grand total of £8.2m is just as believable as anything the likes of Leggat spouts.

Jelle1880 · 16-05-2012 06:10PM

Leggat is just pissed off that his favourite, TBK, didn't win.

Speculation, without any hard evidence.

A Dub in Glasgo · 16-05-2012 06:29PM

Stretford and McDonald were in an article in todays Herald by Michael Grant

Glasgow Herald wrote:

Stewart Regan, the chief executive of the Scottish Football Association, last night insisted Charles Green had an "obligation" to be up front about the consortium being put together to buy Rangers.

Regan will meet Green tomorrow or on Friday to find out more about the 20-strong group assembled from Britain, Dubai, Abu Dhabi, Singapore and other countries in the Far East. Mike McDonald, former Sheffield United chairman, and leading football agent Paul Stretford are involved but most of the consortium remains anonymous.

http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/football/i-want-green-to-tell-us-who-is-in-the-consortium-theres-an-obligation-to-share-that-says-regan.17608813

Dempsey · 16-05-2012 07:33PM

Whats that you were saying Jelle?

I see BBC Scotland are doing another documentary on Rangers, that should be more hard hitting than the tickling that Alex Thomson gave ye!

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 16-05-2012 07:41PM

Dempsey wrote: »

Whats that you were saying Jelle?

I see BBC Scotland are doing another documentary on Rangers, that should be more hard hitting than the tickling that Alex Thomson gave ye!

Thomson only rehashed stuff that was already out there.

Dempsey · 16-05-2012 07:48PM

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

Thomson only rehashed stuff that was already out there.

He did. I knew he would and I said as much beforehand in this thread but I didnt hear about Martin Bain wanting to shred evidence of the loans he took out of the EBT scheme and the other paper trails before that piece. He was the first person I saw to actually apportion blame with evidence to support rather that just collectively say the board were fiddling the books and/or his word against mine scenarios.

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 16-05-2012 07:52PM

Dempsey wrote: »

He did. I knew he would and I said as much beforehand in this thread but I didnt hear about Martin Bain wanting to shred evidence of the loans he took out of the EBT scheme and the other paper trails before that piece. He was the first person I saw to actually apportion blame with evidence to support rather that just collectively say the board were fiddling the books and/or his word against mine scenarios.

Yes but that all was down to Bain it was fairly common Knowledge among Rangers fans that's why there was such an uproar when he started these proceedings and had the money frozen

Dempsey · 16-05-2012 07:54PM

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

Yes but that all was down to Bain it was fairly common Knowledge among Rangers fans that's why there was such an uproar when he started these proceedings and had the money frozen

Ye kept stum about what exactly he did in these threads at the time he was ring-fencing money. What other stuff arent ye telling us! :pac:

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 16-05-2012 07:58PM

Dempsey wrote: »

Ye kept stum about what exactly he did in these threads at the time he was ring-fencing money. What other stuff arent ye telling us! :pac:

LOL it was pretty obvious that he had to have his mucky paws in the jar

RoryMac · 16-05-2012 08:28PM

Dempsey wrote: »

Ye kept stum about what exactly he did in these threads at the time he was ring-fencing money. What other stuff arent ye telling us! :pac:

Broxi probably knew who was on the SFA panel before Ally did!

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 16-05-2012 09:24PM

RoryMac wrote: »

Dempsey wrote: »

Ye kept stum about what exactly he did in these threads at the time he was ring-fencing money. What other stuff arent ye telling us! :pac:

Broxi probably knew who was on the SFA panel before Ally did!

Nah I am not that good but it doesn't take much of an IQ to work out a financial Director would know exactly what was going on out of all the directors it's pretty easy to pick up that Bain had to know.

Dempsey · 16-05-2012 09:34PM

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

Nah I am not that good but it doesn't take much of an IQ to work out a financial Director would know exactly what was going on out of all the directors it's pretty easy to pick up that Bain had to know.

Pity you dont think the same of the gobshíte that replaced him :P

lubo_moravcik · 16-05-2012 09:55PM

Anyone else heard this?

Chris McLaughlin ‏@BBCchrismclaug
#Rangers appeal rejected by #SFA

Ewan Murray ‏@mrewanmurray
Rangers appeal over transfer embargo rejected.

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 16-05-2012 09:55PM

Dempsey wrote: »

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

Nah I am not that good but it doesn't take much of an IQ to work out a financial Director would know exactly what was going on out of all the directors it's pretty easy to pick up that Bain had to know.

Pity you dont think the same of the gobshíte that replaced him :P

Your right but me thinking at the time he was a scumbag of the highest order would have changed the square root of feck all.

bobbysands81 · 16-05-2012 09:55PM

Rangers appeal REJECTED!

Transfer ban stands.

All over twitter but can't provide any links at mo.

Chris McLaughlin from BBC broke it about ten minutes ago.

EDIT - link - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18099048

Dempsey · 16-05-2012 10:03PM

I'm surprised it hasnt been increased for being a frivolous appeal. Rangers were going to produce nothing that the SFA didnt find out in their own investigation which was done in great detail.

What exactly was the argument for their appeal, a hat in hand and a "we're sorry"?

lubo_moravcik · 16-05-2012 10:08PM

Full Statement from SFA

Appellate Tribunal Statement
Wednesday, 16 May 2012

The Appellate Tribunal will give its full reasons in writing in early course. However, in summary, it considers that:

1. It was competent for Disciplinary Tribunal to impose the additional sanction of prohibiting registrations of any new players of 18 years or older for a period of 12 months.

2. The Disciplinary Tribunal was correct to determine that the conduct involved - especially the deliberate non-payment of very large sums, estimated in excess of £13m of tax in the form of PAYE, NIC and VAT - was attributable to the club as a member of the Scottish FA.

3. The Disciplinary Tribunal was correct also in holding that the maximum fine available for this breach was £100,000, and on its own was inadequate as a punishment for this misconduct. It was therefore correct to select an additional sanction.

4. The sanctions available included expulsion from participation in the game and termination or suspension of membership of the Scottish FA, which would have had a similar effect. The Appellate Tribunal observes that serious consideration was given by the disciplinary tribunal to imposing one of these sanctions, which would have had obvious consequences for the survival of the club. The Disciplinary Tribunal rejected these as too severe and this Appellate Tribunal agrees with that conclusion.

5. Although the Appellate Tribunal has listened carefully to the representations from Rangers FC about the practical effects of the additional sanction, it has concluded that this sanction was proportionate to the breach, dissuasive to others and effective in the context of serious misconduct, bringing the game into disrepute. In particular, the Appellate Tribunal recognises that the Disciplinary Tribunal decision does not affect Rangers’ ability to extend the contracts of existing professional players, including those whose contracts will expire at the end of this season and including also those currently on loan to other clubs. The Appellate Tribunal observes that Rangers FC have over 40 professional players in this category.

Therefore, the Appellate Tribunal affirms the decision of the Disciplinary Tribunal.

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 16-05-2012 10:15PM

Court of Arbitration for Sport the next stop then

Dempsey · 16-05-2012 10:27PM

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

Court of Arbitration for Sport the next stop then

The SFA warned you twice now that they could have easily went for a stronger punishment. You really want CAS scrutinising Rangers considering that they'll be going on the SFA tribunal report?

http://www.rangers.co.uk/news/football-news/article/2773718

Mr Keen is Dean of the Faculty of Advocates in Scotland and famously acted for Al Amin Fhimah, who was acquitted at the Lockerbie Bomb trial in Holland in 2001.

Stay classy Rangers! :eek:

Jelle1880 · 16-05-2012 10:34PM

You mean because he defended a guy who was proven to be innocent ?

Yeah, how dare he.

Dempsey · 16-05-2012 10:36PM

Jelle1880 wrote: »

You mean because he defended a guy who was proven to be innocent ?

Yeah, how dare he.

OJ Simpson was innocent too :rolleyes:

Jelle1880 · 16-05-2012 10:37PM

Dempsey wrote: »

OJ Simpson was innocent too :rolleyes:

Nice argumentation there. :rolleyes:

Dempsey · 16-05-2012 10:47PM

Jelle1880 wrote: »

Nice argumentation there. :rolleyes:

Tis rich coming from someone that continually hops into the Celtic thread to bitch about people that support republicanism and people that you believe that should be guilty by association.

Rangers FC lodge papers to go into administration

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