Name and Shame Job Bridge

sligoface · 04-05-2012 05:42AM

This one has really pissed me off. As someone who used to work in another curves I can confirm it takes no skills whatsoever to work here, there is minimum training required and working there would not benefit anyone in any way if they wanted another job in the fitness industry.

Disagree on that one a bit. Have a close family member who worked in one and then went on to open her own gym. It's a lot better than some of the other internships being advertised like waiting tables, working in petrol stations, etc. At least you could work out while interning, save on gym fees.

But in general I am disgusted by the Job Bridge scheme. It's simply not being used the way it is intended, and how internships for anything obviously entry-level like waiting tables gets the OK from the powers that be in the scheme is mind-boggling.

If a job is entry-level, requiring little training, no company should be allowed take an intern for this. Likewise, if the job is highly skilled and requires someone with professional experience, it should not be allowed as an internship. The scheme should be strictly limited to situations where people have some education/experience in the field, but not enough to be considered a working professional and need to gain experience. That's what an internship is for - to gain experience. Not force people who are unable to find work into slave labor.

I think the scheme should be scrapped or drastically limited to proper opportunities. The changes I would make: The mentors should be made to take a short course in how to train people if they don't have experience or qualifications in training/teaching. The mentors should have to complete progress reports on the interns detailing what the interns duties are, what they've been teaching the intern and how well they're doing learning the job. Someone should also drop by the workplace to monitor how the mentor works with the intern and see if there is any teaching/learning going on, more than twice as the scheme says, should be once a month.

If the interns are doing well, the company should be required to take them on as paid at a decent starting salary or be struck off the scheme. If they give more than two consecutive interns bad reports, the mentors should have to be trained again, especially in regards to interviewing prospective interns/hires. If they still cannot find an intern to train up and hire within the next two internships, they should be struck off the scheme.

06-05-2012 07:03AM

no company should get workers without having to pay them, it decreases the amount of paying work

triple-M · 06-05-2012 09:46AM

a once off oppertunity to gain invaluable work experience
http://intern.jobbridge.ie/Default.aspx?q=B+fomdowzS8kaDnSlUDk1zaMUPiFEeNrNWjviinu490thmC2C0u+DDI1Jdo6b9Fv3/ZhEYZzIYGe1CDg8lVcWrxotdblxeYrs+OpczqRuiIYtbtVepOE2WqZh0qkw+XgVjrzHglG8no8tTEiuyaMagx7oHfgQRqZyY1MCYZUNFkQj72nhVGj/EEVjea+AD3hHDDMgb0JWsyV1uXIpsn1nNmk1Nq1+X4zOGjSGnJ/q1zRSA6z1fU/5ym/ALN+VfiL2G951kMoxfOl+8/JEoyAXJ0qUFt3RfLFijBlGJoipDAyxyM6Yj3UTdzcFjZmFrzP8uLilZXx0N0wy16WMzSqPF+xw0dAqKxeQ2d5qedGbDCanShUSaoxTlV27STAQpGZGGtTgJpLIvFKCvYbHKNxganI6UdDWjDnx492rxWlrqfr+7c8vPenyKN+ReYiKfrWFlQ3olZ2FNzvFVGdwRr7GXTbqMl4FATPIb10O02Fo6g=

ABajaninCork · 06-05-2012 05:11PM

triple-M wrote: »

a once off oppertunity to gain invaluable work experience
http://intern.jobbridge.ie/Default.aspx?q=B+fomdowzS8kaDnSlUDk1zaMUPiFEeNrNWjviinu490thmC2C0u+DDI1Jdo6b9Fv3/ZhEYZzIYGe1CDg8lVcWrxotdblxeYrs+OpczqRuiIYtbtVepOE2WqZh0qkw+XgVjrzHglG8no8tTEiuyaMagx7oHfgQRqZyY1MCYZUNFkQj72nhVGj/EEVjea+AD3hHDDMgb0JWsyV1uXIpsn1nNmk1Nq1+X4zOGjSGnJ/q1zRSA6z1fU/5ym/ALN+VfiL2G951kMoxfOl+8/JEoyAXJ0qUFt3RfLFijBlGJoipDAyxyM6Yj3UTdzcFjZmFrzP8uLilZXx0N0wy16WMzSqPF+xw0dAqKxeQ2d5qedGbDCanShUSaoxTlV27STAQpGZGGtTgJpLIvFKCvYbHKNxganI6UdDWjDnx492rxWlrqfr+7c8vPenyKN+ReYiKfrWFlQ3olZ2FNzvFVGdwRr7GXTbqMl4FATPIb10O02Fo6g=

Dear God....

uli84 · 07-05-2012 09:08PM

ehm what was it? I mean what I missed...;)link doesn't work for me...

johnnybmac · 07-05-2012 09:27PM

Based in ENNISCORTHY (URBAN) Ref. INTE-678448

Description

The intern will gain practical experience in milking cows. The intern will receive formal/informal training in the following calving cows, milking, tractor driving. On completion the intern will have attained skills in correctly milking cows, feeding calves, feeding cows.
Skills Requirements

Attention to detail and awareness to surroundings, willing to work around large animals.
Please Note:

This is an Internship. An allowance of €50 per week will be paid in addition to your current Social Welfare payment.See eligibility criteria above.
Department

AGRI
Mentor

The Organisation will assign a mentor to support you during the Internship.

Duration

9 Months
Number of Positions

1
Contract Type

Other
Days, Hours & Start Date

Days per week: To be Advised
Hours per day: Not specified
Hours per week: 40
Start Date: TBC
Experience Required:

No Experience Required

Education Requirements:

Junior Certificate - minimal

ABajaninCork · 07-05-2012 09:51PM

uli84 wrote: »

ehm what was it? I mean what I missed...;)link doesn't work for me...

You didn't miss much. It was an 'internship' flipping burgers. I expect it's been either filled or withdrawn in shame!

sligoface · 09-05-2012 11:46AM

Here's an internship for a 'Reservations Assistant' (ie: Receptionist) in the Radisson Blu Hotel in Sligo, a four star hotel that is very busy with tourists in the summer as it is near Rosses Point Beach.

The intern will gain practical experience in all aspects of a hotel reservations. They will assist the Revenue Manager and her team in their daily activities. The intern will receive formal/informal training in the following; managing switch board, processing incoming reservations both by phone and on-line, database management and general administration. On completion the intern will have attained skills in customer service, administration and time management.

considering that i used to do this same job full time for a hotel here until the recession caused me to be let go, and i am now on the dole for nearly a year, this really annoys me. Working during those peak times with spoiled tourists, overbookings, etc. can be very stressful, would never do it for free.
The goal of Job Bridge, according to Joan Burton, is to get people off the dole. But if Job bridge did not exist, this hotel, who can well afford to pay someone to do this job, could be giving this job to someone like myself who has experience in the field but was forced into drawing the dole due to the recession. Not only that, but I heard that the hotel I used to work in is doing the same thing and hiring receptionists from job bridge because they don't have to pay them. So I could possibly make the case that Job Bridge put me out of work in the first place, in addition to making it nigh impossible to get another one.

CatFromHue · 09-05-2012 12:42PM

If anyone sees an internship position that is plainly not an internship you should email Jobbridge and point this out. The time taken to do so would the equivalent of posting it on here. Their email address is jobbridgeapp@fas.ie I've done it a few times myself and the ads have been removed, well as far as I know they have been anyway.

FRS Recruitment in Limerick are looking for a new employee but intend on using the Jobbridge scheme to train up the employee.

"At the end of the internship, after extensive training here in Frs Recruitment we will offer a permanent job to successful trainees. (As a huge amount of time will be spent training the intern, we are only considering trainees who intend on making a long term career with us in the Recruitment profession and will support interns every step of the way)"

http://www.irishjobs.ie/Jobs/Trainee-Recruiter-Jobbridge-6769958.aspx

ABajaninCork · 09-05-2012 07:56PM

Found another one which I've reported...

****TEXT****
Based in OVENS Ref. INTE-680277
Description
The intern will gain practical experience in loading, unloading and dealing directly with customer orders. The intern will receive formal/informal training in the following Forklift driving, yard safety and manual handling. On completion the intern will have attained skills in warehouse management and assisting in the logistics chain.
Skills Requirements
Good knowledge of English, good personnel skills and good worker.
Please Note:
This is an Internship. An allowance of €50 per week will be paid in addition to your current Social Welfare payment. See eligibility criteria above.
Department
Yard
Mentor
The Organisation will assign a mentor to support you during the Internship.
Duration
9 Months
Number of Positions
1
Contract Type
Other
Days, Hours & Start Date
Days per week: To be Advised
Hours per day: Not specified
Hours per week: 40
Start Date: TBC

Experience Required:
No Experience Required
Education Requirements:
Junior Certificate - Forklift training and manual handling training preffered.(sic)
****END OF TEXT****

Never waste a good recession, huh?:rolleyes:

Toasterspark · 09-05-2012 08:03PM

johnnybmac wrote: »

Based in ENNISCORTHY (URBAN) Ref. INTE-678448

Description

The intern will gain practical experience in milking cows. The intern will receive formal/informal training in the following calving cows, milking, tractor driving. On completion the intern will have attained skills in correctly milking cows, feeding calves, feeding cows.

For an agri student that might be interested in starting their own dairy farm, this would be an excellent opportunity to get some hands-on experience, especially if it was a decent sized farm. There's really no substitute for practical experience. What do you think is wrong with this?

cherrieblossom · 11-05-2012 12:31PM

sligoface wrote: »

Here's an internship for a 'Reservations Assistant' (ie: Receptionist) in the Radisson Blu Hotel in Sligo, a four star hotel that is very busy with tourists in the summer as it is near Rosses Point Beach.

considering that i used to do this same job full time for a hotel here until the recession caused me to be let go, and i am now on the dole for nearly a year, this really annoys me. Working during those peak times with spoiled tourists, overbookings, etc. can be very stressful, would never do it for free.
The goal of Job Bridge, according to Joan Burton, is to get people off the dole. But if Job bridge did not exist, this hotel, who can well afford to pay someone to do this job, could be giving this job to someone like myself who has experience in the field but was forced into drawing the dole due to the recession. Not only that, but I heard that the hotel I used to work in is doing the same thing and hiring receptionists from job bridge because they don't have to pay them. So I could possibly make the case that Job Bridge put me out of work in the first place, in addition to making it nigh impossible to get another one.

make a complaint directly to jobsbrige on this, the scheme is train people for jobs not to take jobs from people

Mrs OBumble · 11-05-2012 12:38PM

Toasterspark wrote: »

For an agri student that might be interested in starting their own dairy farm, this would be an excellent opportunity to get some hands-on experience, especially if it was a decent sized farm. There's really no substitute for practical experience. What do you think is wrong with this?

Ahh this bit:

Education Requirements: Junior Certificate - minimal

You're right, for someone with a farm-management qual, but no farming background, it would be great. Otherwise ... :rolleyes:

LLcoolJ27 · 11-05-2012 04:14PM

quietriot wrote: »

Where do we draw the line between an actual opportunity and abuse?

I would have said something like:
"Shelf-Filler Internship" at Tesco would be abuse
"Customer Service" with Insure.ie, one of the countries well known insurance companies, would be an opportunity, no? Customer service is a skill that many coming out of college certainly don't have, they'd learn secondary skills that they might not already have and it'd certainly look good on the CV.

It's €185+€50 per week for it also, isn't it?

Sounds fine to me really. A person could get a lot out of that and use it when they're finished, unlike a shelf-filler who'll learn nothing of value.

For whatever it's worth, I've met the management in insure before and they're certainly not "scabby". I don't think they'd be the type to exploit people and as I know how much their base staff are paid, they aren't exploiting who they have there now either.

Hi quietriot

I certainly do not agree with you there. Are you another mean employer? I don't agree with these bull**** americanised internships that are a horrible prospect for any graduate coming out of college. How are you supposed to get up in the morning for €235 per week? People have to pay rent (or worse a mortgage if they've already lost their job), food/bill, kids. I think it's an utter disgrace and I feel for anyone who has no option but to give in to this.
I had a friend who did this and she was struggling for months.
It is exploitation - in my opinion. Free labour ? I don't think so.

ABajaninCork · 11-05-2012 09:49PM

LLcoolJ27 wrote: »

Hi quietriot

Free labour ? I don't think so.

FYP

RacoonQueen · 11-05-2012 10:10PM

sligoface wrote: »

Disagree on that one a bit. Have a close family member who worked in one and then went on to open her own gym. It's a lot better than some of the other internships being advertised like waiting tables, working in petrol stations, etc. At least you could work out while interning, save on gym fees.

Ummm curves isn't even a real gym. Only one of us that worked there at the time used the system, she was the only one of us who wasnt a qualified instructor the rest of us would have touched the 'system'(but thats for the health and fitness forum not here). There was no saving money there we all paid for membership in real gyms....

Anyone can open a curves. It takes no skills or qualifications, as proved by the guy who owned the ones we worked in. All it takes is money to pay for the franchise and a good location.

There are no career benefits to working in a curves, especially working in one for free. No one in their right mind would take an internship in curves. Thats not an internship, it's no better than waiting on tables or being a 'housekeeper' in a hotel, there is that and the fact it's most likely replacing a paid staff member. A lot of places have seriously weird definitions of internship.

Leif Ericson · 14-05-2012 10:01AM

Post Production Assistant

Description:

The intern will gain practical experience in the Post Production TV process throughout the admin, facilities and technical departments. The Intern will receive formal/informal training in the following: client service, hospitality, switch operation (Cisco Switchboard), barista training and general duties. On completion the intern will have attained skills in: quality client services, Cisco Switchboard operation and barista training.
Skills Required

Someone with a keen interest in the Post Production/Media Industry. Must be flexible and a team player.

Barista training for someone doing post production?

tempura · 14-05-2012 10:51AM

Whole thing is complete load of bull**** ! Who on earth is it aimed at ?

Fas tried to push me to apply for one of these things.

However at 43 with over 20 years Experience in my area, why the **** would I go and work a 40 hour week for free. I have absolutly nothing to gain from these ill thought out schemes.

Today for example I had a little run through the Internships on offer in Administration , Secretarial, Office etc. Most of them could be paying jobs which I could apply for, but no, the free labour is the way to go apparantly. People need to make a stand against this utter bollixology.

cherryghost · 14-05-2012 01:53PM

TBH I'd do more than just report it. I'd recommend the company that advertised it be banned from the scheme outright.

Leif Ericson · 14-05-2012 02:14PM

Sorry is that in reply to my post?

cherryghost · 14-05-2012 03:05PM

Leif Ericson wrote: »

Sorry is that in reply to my post?

Sorry, I meant in general to unacceptable positions on offer.

Nibblesworth · 14-05-2012 07:49PM

Car Valeting Technician
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Created on: 10/05/2012 | Updated on: 14/05/2012 | Displayed until 05/07/2012 51 days from now

Based in NEW ROSS (URBAN) Ref. INTE-682804
Description
The intern will gain practical experience in car washing, paint preparation, polishing, waxing and sealing, interior cleaning, and various other aspects of car valeting. The intern will receive formal/informal training in the following; Valeting Chemical technology, Customer care, Yard management. On completion the intern will have attained skills in car valeting and detailing, customer care and general running of a car valeting business.

Skills Requirements
Honest, dependable and hard working.

Please Note:
This is an Internship. An allowance of €50 per week will be paid in addition to your current Social Welfare payment.See eligibility criteria above.

Department
Valeting and Detailing Department

Mentor
The Organisation will assign a mentor to support you during the Internship.

Duration
9 Months

Number of Positions
1

Contract Type
Other

Days, Hours & Start Date
Days per week: To be Advised
Hours per day: Not specified
Hours per week: 39
Start Date: TBC

Experience Required:
No Experience Required
Education Requirements:
Junior Certificate - Must hold Irish driving licence

Seriously? A car valeter? How can they get away with this?

calfmuscle · 14-05-2012 07:55PM

Nibblesworth wrote: »

Car Valeting Technician
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Created on: 10/05/2012 | Updated on: 14/05/2012 | Displayed until 05/07/2012 51 days from now

Based in NEW ROSS (URBAN) Ref. INTE-682804
Description
The intern will gain practical experience in car washing, paint preparation, polishing, waxing and sealing, interior cleaning, and various other aspects of car valeting. The intern will receive formal/informal training in the following; Valeting Chemical technology, Customer care, Yard management. On completion the intern will have attained skills in car valeting and detailing, customer care and general running of a car valeting business.

Skills Requirements
Honest, dependable and hard working.

Please Note:
This is an Internship. An allowance of €50 per week will be paid in addition to your current Social Welfare payment.See eligibility criteria above.

Department
Valeting and Detailing Department

Mentor
The Organisation will assign a mentor to support you during the Internship.

Duration
9 Months

Number of Positions
1

Contract Type
Other

Days, Hours & Start Date
Days per week: To be Advised
Hours per day: Not specified
Hours per week: 39
Start Date: TBC

Experience Required:
No Experience Required
Education Requirements:
Junior Certificate - Must hold Irish driving licence

Seriously? A car valeter? How can they get away with this?

They get away with it because job bridge is the new minimum wage!

xtradel · 14-05-2012 08:24PM

From irishjobs.ie today:

The Maldron Hotel Galway is seeking an Accommodation Intern for our 113 bedroom hotel.

Jobseekers must be on the Live Register and have been in receipt of Jobseekers Allowance/Benefit or signing on for credits for at least 3 months

Duties include:

Ø To present for duty in full uniform including name badge.
Ø To ensure a high standard of personal hygiene.
Ø To clean public areas / toilets and sign off bathroom checklist on a hourly basis.
Ø To collect supplies including linen are directed by the department manager / asst. manager / supervisor.
Ø To adhere to and maintain all cleaning programmes as directed.
Ø To restock supplies as required or directed by the accommodation manager / asst. accommodation manager / accommodation supervisor.
Ø To damp dust vacant rooms as directed by your department head.
Ø To appropriately report and record lost and found property as detailed in the accommodation SOP.
Ø To record and report maintenance needed to your supervisor or manager.
Ø To stock all service trolleys prior to commencement and on completion of shift.
Ø To empty rubbish and clean out vacuums on a daily basis.
Ø On completion of shift, return master keys to the accommodation manager / supervisor.
Ø To be aware of the key security policy as detailed in the accommodation SOP.
Ø To ensure daily Sign In/ Sign Out sheets including breaks are completed on a daily basis.
Ø To be responsible for the cleaning of the back of house areas including staff changing areas and canteen.
Ø To maintain storage presses, and linen rooms in a presentable condition.
Ø To provide turndown service if required.
Ø Service of tea/coffee making facilities within all guestrooms.
Ø Where require, to ensure guest laundry is collected, charged and returned to guest in speedy and accurate fashion.
Ø To carry out the hotels customer relation policy.
Ø To ensure full knowledge of hotel facilities, including opening and closing times and to promote these facilities at every opportunity.
Ø Ensure work trolley is free from obstruction and not blocking passageway.

And the best bit...

Qualifications:

Third Level Diploma

ABajaninCork · 14-05-2012 08:28PM

That ad was up before. And it was reported before...

Cheeky *******. Since when was a Leaving Cert required for dusting a ******* room???:mad::mad::mad::mad:

EDIT. Just thinking. As the position is not on the Jobbridge website, I wonder if the employer deliberately used IrishJobs to circumvent the Jobbridge process (such as it is)??

SerialComplaint · 14-05-2012 10:19PM

An interesting contrast - Paid intern posts at Dept Environment €26k pa

http://www.merrionstreet.ie/index.php/2012/05/temporary-positions-at-the-department-of-the-environment/?cat=18

ABajaninCork · 14-05-2012 10:20PM

I believe Apple and Dell offer similar paid internships...

yore · 15-05-2012 03:05AM

JustMary wrote: »

Ahh this bit:

You're right, for someone with a farm-management qual, but no farming background, it would be great. Otherwise ... :rolleyes:

Is ignorance really bliss? They say it is, I just thought I'd check with you

Leif Ericson · 15-05-2012 08:20AM

Assistant Archivist (Intern)

Description:

The intern will gain practical experience in working in the Museum?s Archive Service, which supports archival activity within the institution. The intern will receive formal/informal training in the following; Archives administration; Processing, finding aid production and location control using Adlib Archives Preservation. On completion the intern will have attained skills in; Listing collections on to Adlib Archives (ISAD G compliant); Providing information for the production of an Adlib Archives User manual; Appraising and arranging collections.
Skills Required

The successful applicant should have excellent interpersonal and communication skills, excellent research and reporting skills and good organisational and IT skills.

Requirements:

Third Level - Graduate with a Masters Degree in Archives and Records Management or equivalent

Masters

christmas2012 · 15-05-2012 10:47AM

total job exploitation its sickening

Name and Shame Job Bridge

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