A Golden Dawn in Greece

Its really sad that far to many Europeans countries, can't quite shake extremists like Neo-Nazi groups. While main stream parties have a lot of faults, there a 1000 times superior to these nutty extremist groups.

wes wrote: »

Its really sad that far to many Europeans countries, can't quite shake extremists like Neo-Nazi groups. While main stream parties have a lot of faults, there a 1000 times superior to these nutty extremist groups.

Extremists go hand in hand with economic upheaval. People all across Europe are loosing faith in what might be known as "traditional" political groups as they see them as being part of a failed system, a view not without merit. Thus, it's not surprising that extremist parties are gaining ground.

RichardAnd wrote: »

Extremists go hand in hand with economic upheaval. People all across Europe are loosing faith in what might be known as "traditional" political groups as they see them as being part of a failed system, a view not without merit. Thus, it's not surprising that extremist parties are gaining ground.

Agreed, but we need a sensible alternative to the traditional political parties as opposed to a number of extremist parties with no really viable agenda. What that sensible alternative is we can only dream of considering our electorate.

Invader_Zimmy wrote: »

People in Greece are being fed up with their failed politicians that has lead the country to a collapse. Can Golden Dawn help clean up all the corruption?

According to the news i read half the police officers in Greece voted for Golden Dawn, therefore I think this party probably best represents Law & Order.
http://www.grreporter.info/en/one_every_two_police_officers_voted_golden_dawn/6853

I have great hopes for this party.

Lots of people had great hopes for this fellow as well:



Media in several European countries outside Greece have published articles describing how Golden Dawn self-appointed vigilante groups have been stopping foreigner-looking people in parts of Athens and other places in Greece, demanding ID and in general intimidating them. That is clearly against Greek law. How would you like it if similar loutish thugs started stopping and searching people in the streets of Dublin? And what right have they to usurp the powers of the police, who answer to democratically elected political masters?:rolleyes:

They also use the Nazi salute - in a country that fought valiantly to try and stop the invading Germans and suffered terribly under them.:eek::eek:

Golden Dawn and their soul-bretheren in many other European countries are purely and simply scum (sorry, Black Swan, I'll rephrase that to "not such nice people":)), who hate democracy and freedom, but most of whom are just too bestially thick to understand that the kind of demagogues egging them on would have no more respect for civil rights and freedoms than Hitler and the Nazis did. They are just like the stupid Haudegen and silly bullies who thought a leader who condemned any hint of decency had all the answers. Millions of them then became torturers and murderers, and ended up losing their lives before their country wised up and returned to democracy.:) To paraphrase Winston Churchill, democracy often sucks, but not quite as much as the alternatives.:D

Here in Finland we have a similar lot of xenophobic, anti-multicultural fools - the so-called True Finns - who think foreigners are to blame for all their problems. One of them recently called for immigrants to be required to wear an identifying armband. When it was pointed out that such calls are illegal under hate laws in Finland, the explanation was that it was "meant as a joke".

I'm not laughing, and neither is anyone else.:(:(

Least of all our Jewish citizens:

The popularity of this group is very disturbing, financial hardship causes people to look for someone to blame. Video below showing a Golden Dawn press conference, starts with a skinhead character ordering everyone to stand up to show "respect". They are clearly nazi's even look at their symbol!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4AXJx3IzdY

Invader_Zimmy wrote: »

These "thugs" as you call it are only protecting their homes against criminal elements in society. You still have the right to protect your home. For example there offices have been firebombed by leftist terrorists, off course they have to use violence to protect themselves.

OK, I get it. Someone (who is unknown, because no one has been arrested for it) firebombs the office of an organisation to which you belong and that makes it OK to intimidate and perhaps beat up someone who looks like, say, a Pakistani or an Arab or just plain foreign, based entirely on your assumption that the person you victimise is guilty by association. Thank you for helping me understand.:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

do communist groups go around beating up immigrants and killing people *before* they get into power?

i guess the neo nazis just try harder so they get more attention

Eitherway, it's sad that instead of parties calling for renewed democracit values, there is a push towards extreme fascist and communist positions. Mainstream politics is in a serious funk.

fascism always works right:rolleyes:


seriously how hasn't this thread been closed