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Swords CC Club League

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  • #332
    greenmat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 581 ✭✭✭greenmat


    buffalo wrote: »
    You should've done the Randonnee. :)
    Should have stayed at home, should have trained more, should have trained less, should have lost some weight, should have not lost so much weight, should have took up Darts. At least I finished :D.


  • #333
    Inquitus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,789 ✭✭✭✭Inquitus


    What were the handicap gaps last night between the groups?


  • #334
    bbolger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 191 ✭✭bbolger


    Inquitus wrote: »
    What were the handicap gaps last night between the groups?

    And a related question - do those gaps fluctuate much week to week?
    Are they based on group size, circuit...?


  • #335
    07Lapierre
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,444 ✭✭✭07Lapierre


    bbolger wrote: »
    And a related question - do those gaps fluctuate much week to week?
    Are they based on group size, circuit...?


    Yes they do. (not by much though)

    They depend on the circuit, no's in each group etc.


  • #336
    crosswords
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 252 ✭✭crosswords


    What a great race. Group 4 worked so well, with everyone doing their bit. So important to work together in the wind.

    Thanks to all the organisers again. Swords League, perhaps the best race league in the country?

    Just a comment. Could you please let us know if you are moving the finish line. Group 4 thought it was finishing on the flat section before the bridge. Scratch thought it was finishing up on the hill.

    Looking forward to Garristown.


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  • #337
    Kav0777
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 549 ✭✭✭Kav0777


    crosswords wrote: »
    What a great race. Group 4 worked so well, with everyone doing their bit. So important to work together in the wind.

    Thanks to all the organisers again. Swords League, perhaps the best race league in the country?

    Just a comment. Could you please let us know if you are moving the finish line. Group 4 thought it was finishing on the flat section before the bridge. Scratch thought it was finishing up on the hill.

    Looking forward to Garristown.

    I thought it was said just before the start that the finish was further than usual, up on the fly over.

    Edit to say: I may have just overheard another conversation between to other racers. (not that I listen to other peoples conversations, as a rule)


  • #338
    07Lapierre
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,444 ✭✭✭07Lapierre


    crosswords wrote: »
    What a great race. Group 4 worked so well, with everyone doing their bit. So important to work together in the wind.

    Thanks to all the organisers again. Swords League, perhaps the best race league in the country?

    Just a comment. Could you please let us know if you are moving the finish line. Group 4 thought it was finishing on the flat section before the bridge. Scratch thought it was finishing up on the hill.

    Looking forward to Garristown.

    Good Point.

    The Winner came out with us last Tuesday evening on the Circuit intro. His knowledge of the finish obviously paid off! :)


  • #339
    07Lapierre
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,444 ✭✭✭07Lapierre


    Some nice photo's and 2 videos are now up on the swordscc website.


  • #340
    honkjelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 158 ✭✭honkjelly


    Have a question about riding through doing your turn in the club league.

    I take it as given that when the up and over chain breaks down the guy in second spot comes around to start the chain again.

    When stronger groups catch slower groups or people who have been dropped from groups the 'slower' riders can either sit on if the pace is too high of ride through and do their turns. Now to the question - where should the riders not wiling to do their turns position themselves?

    The natural racing instinct is to be as near the front as possible but in a club league i think they should sit at the back of the group and try and not interfere with the up and over rhythm. Riders not willing to do their turn sitting high up in a group can wreck the up and overs as they repeatedly break the 'up'.

    Maybe this could be brought up in the into spins?


  • #341
    killalanerr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,322 ✭✭✭killalanerr


    honkjelly wrote: »
    Have a question about riding through doing your turn in the club league.

    I take it as given that when the up and over chain breaks down the guy in second spot comes around to start the chain again.

    When stronger groups catch slower groups or people who have been dropped from groups the 'slower' riders can either sit on if the pace is too high of ride through and do their turns. Now to the question - where should the riders not wiling to do their turns position themselves?

    The natural racing instinct is to be as near the front as possible but in a club league i think they should sit at the back of the group and try and not interfere with the up and over rhythm. Riders not willing to do their turn sitting high up in a group can wreck the up and overs as they repeatedly break the 'up'.

    Maybe this could be brought up in the into spins?

    I had a word with a few that were doing just that the last few weeks,it makes it so much harder when the rider in front of you moves across when they get to within 2 or 3 from the front leaving a gap for you to close before you even get to the front,it does indeed brake the rhythm of the line
    If you feel you need to miss a turn for what ever reason your place is at the back out of the way of the working line and their will be times we all need a brake
    But keep in mind in the club CPs no matter how bad your feeling its probably better to be in the line and go over the top not forgetting to ease of to let the next person through rather than being at the back where the speed is constantly changing


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  • #342
    07Lapierre
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,444 ✭✭✭07Lapierre


    Please note, tomorrow's race has been changed from 3 laps to 2 laps. This is due to the available daylight and the fact that the new circuit is slightly longer.


  • #343
    jimbo28
    Closed Accounts Posts: 328 ✭✭jimbo28


    If I turn up tomorrow and as is the case, have only one ring available to me on the back block (will probably try and set it in the 14-15 so i can switch between the 53x14 and the 39x14) is there any chance of going in the 2nd group.Im f@!kin itching to do a race but im still waiting on delivery of a new rear shifter.If not im just gonna head out on my own. By the way last year i went in group 4 for 1 or 2 races.


  • #344
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 78,499 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    jimbo28 wrote: »
    If I turn up tomorrow and as is the case, have only one ring available to me on the back block (will probably try and set it in the 14-15 so i can switch between the 53x14 and the 39x14) is there any chance of going in the 2nd group.Im f@!kin itching to do a race but im still waiting on delivery of a new rear shifter.If not im just gonna head out on my own. By the way last year i went in group 4 for 1 or 2 races.
    Well based on samacca's post earlier in the thread, as we are all claiming not to know you, you're in scratch

    Of course, I should be allowed into Group 1 in case my Di2 battery runs out and leaves me in single speed mode;)


  • #345
    Raam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,318 ✭✭✭✭Raam


    jimbo28 wrote: »
    If I turn up tomorrow and as is the case, have only one ring available to me on the back block (will probably try and set it in the 14-15 so i can switch between the 53x14 and the 39x14) is there any chance of going in the 2nd group.Im f@!kin itching to do a race but im still waiting on delivery of a new rear shifter.If not im just gonna head out on my own. By the way last year i went in group 4 for 1 or 2 races.

    Ah hahahahaha, "can I go in this group cos my gears don't work?" Jaysus!


  • #346
    jimbo28
    Closed Accounts Posts: 328 ✭✭jimbo28


    Knew that this was gonna happen :).............might go for a look anyways:).............or start in scratch and wait for group 1.


  • #347
    Hungrycol
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,246 ✭✭✭Hungrycol


    jimbo28 wrote: »
    If I turn up tomorrow and as is the case, have only one ring available to me on the back block (will probably try and set it in the 14-15 so i can switch between the 53x14 and the 39x14) is there any chance of going in the 2nd group.Im f@!kin itching to do a race but im still waiting on delivery of a new rear shifter.If not im just gonna head out on my own. By the way last year i went in group 4 for 1 or 2 races.

    So you aint got gears but have a brake :confused: or if you've no shifter at the moment then you aint got a brake, right.


  • #348
    jimbo28
    Closed Accounts Posts: 328 ✭✭jimbo28


    Oh no my man........i have the whole unit still on the bike but the paddle mechanism came off about 3 weeks ago...........still waiting on planet x delivery, everything else works fine just no way to change gears.............theres a thread on here with a pic of the same situation that im in.One of the lads on here had exactly the same problem with his rival shifter, seems to be a fairly common problem with them!

    http://wvcycling.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/100_0060.jpg


  • #349
    shaungil
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,014 ✭✭✭shaungil


    Who's this lad , new is he? Sounds like scratch for him......


  • #350
    jimbo28
    Closed Accounts Posts: 328 ✭✭jimbo28


    Well f@cK!n scratch it is so.........il show them whos aaaaaaaarrhgghhgg


  • #351
    Lusk Doyle
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,365 ✭✭✭Lusk Doyle


    Raam wrote: »
    jimbo28 wrote: »
    If I turn up tomorrow and as is the case, have only one ring available to me on the back block (will probably try and set it in the 14-15 so i can switch between the 53x14 and the 39x14) is there any chance of going in the 2nd group.Im f@!kin itching to do a race but im still waiting on delivery of a new rear shifter.If not im just gonna head out on my own. By the way last year i went in group 4 for 1 or 2 races.

    Ah hahahahaha, "can I go in this group cos my gears don't work?" Jaysus!

    I think that lad has red hair, speaks in a German accent and has been seen recently doing competitive sportifs...


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  • #352
    Lusk Doyle
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,365 ✭✭✭Lusk Doyle


    jimbo28 wrote: »
    Oh no my man........i have the whole unit still on the bike but the paddle mechanism came off about 3 weeks ago...........still waiting on planet x delivery, everything else works fine just no way to change gears.............theres a thread on here with a pic of the same situation that im in.One of the lads on here had exactly the same problem with his rival shifter, seems to be a fairly common problem with them!

    http://wvcycling.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/100_0060.jpg

    You know waaaaaay to much about bikes to be a group one newbie or even a group 2er!


  • #353
    jimbo28
    Closed Accounts Posts: 328 ✭✭jimbo28


    U got me............heres a little about myself

    Jimbo Ullrich
    (born 1973) Having retired in 2007, this red-haired famous athlete was born in East Germany and is a former professional bicycle road racer. He was the first German to win the grueling 'Tour de France' in 1997, later also placing very well in 2004 and 2005 'Tour' races. He won gold and silver medals in the Sydney Summer Olympics, plus has won other prestigious races in Europe. Many consider Jimbo to have been one of the top time-trial riders in bicycling.


  • #354
    RobFowl
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,682 Mod ✭✭✭✭RobFowl


    jimbo28 wrote: »
    U got me............heres a little about myself

    Jimbo Ullrich
    (born 1973) Having retired in 2007, this red-haired famous athlete was born in East Germany and is a former professional bicycle road racer. He was the first German to win the grueling 'Tour de France' in 1997, later also placing very well in 2004 and 2005 'Tour' races. He won gold and silver medals in the Sydney Summer Olympics, plus has won other prestigious races in Europe. Many consider Jimbo to have been one of the top time-trial riders in bicycling.

    Unfortunately a penchant for sausage, pizza and beer coupled with an in ability to consume as many drugs as his competitors was his downfall....


  • #355
    Lusk Doyle
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,365 ✭✭✭Lusk Doyle


    jimbo28 wrote: »
    U got me............heres a little about myself

    Jimbo Ullrich
    (born 1973) Having retired in 2007, this red-haired famous athlete was born in East Germany and is a former professional bicycle road racer. He was the first German to win the grueling 'Tour de France' in 1997, later also placing very well in 2004 and 2005 'Tour' races. He won gold and silver medals in the Sydney Summer Olympics, plus has won other prestigious races in Europe. Many consider Jimbo to have been one of the top time-trial riders in bicycling.

    Never heard of him!


  • #356
    jimbo28
    Closed Accounts Posts: 328 ✭✭jimbo28


    RobFowl wrote: »
    Unfortunately a penchant for sausage, pizza and beer coupled with an in ability to consume as many drugs as his competitors was his downfall....


    I dont remember you from my college days rob fowl........must have been a year or two ahead eh! :D


  • #357
    sammca
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25 ✭sammca


    Just to let everyone know and to ensure there is no ambiguity going forward. Swords League Races are run as CP's unless advised prior to the race. CP's or "Competition Pace" races require all persons in the group to contribute and work as a team to catch the limit group, without being caught by the scratch group)
    There will be group referees in all groups from this week on and there will be yellow cards issued for the following: Unsporting behavior/riding, Dangerous Riding and Crossing the white line. ( " wheel suckers " comes under the heading of Unsporting Behavior, if you are not prepared to work with your group the Swords League does not want you !).
    We want to promote good hard and safe racing and everyone will be told in blunt terms prior to the race.


  • #358
    sammca
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25 ✭sammca


    Should have noted the most important point: 2 yellow cards and you are out of the league for the rest of the season.


  • #359
    bcmf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,679 ✭✭✭bcmf


    jimbo28 wrote: »
    Oh no my man........i have the whole unit still on the bike but the paddle mechanism came off about 3 weeks ago...........still waiting on planet x delivery, everything else works fine just no way to change gears.............blahblahblahblah
    I wont be racing club league so you can have a lend of my bike.
    It comes equipped with superior Campag equipment.
    This means you are running outta excuses.


  • #360
    07Lapierre
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,444 ✭✭✭07Lapierre


    We've a new leader in the club league.

    I'm missing a few names as I couldn't read some of the sign-on sheets.

    If there is anyone reading this who has taken part in the Swordscc league....PM me if you don't see your name, or if I've mis-spelled it on the results sheet.

    cheers
    07Lapierre


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  • #361
    RobFowl
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,682 Mod ✭✭✭✭RobFowl


    sammca wrote: »
    Just to let everyone know and to ensure there is no ambiguity going forward. Swords League Races are run as CP's unless advised prior to the race. CP's or "Competition Pace" races require all persons in the group to contribute and work as a team to catch the limit group, without being caught by the scratch group)
    There will be group referees in all groups from this week on and there will be yellow cards issued for the following: Unsporting behavior/riding, Dangerous Riding and Crossing the white line. ( " wheel suckers " comes under the heading of Unsporting Behavior, if you are not prepared to work with your group the Swords League does not want you !).
    We want to promote good hard and safe racing and everyone will be told in blunt terms prior to the race.

    Great idea's there.

    A good friend always said if he can't ride through he'll hang on as long as possible but would be too embarrassed to contest the sprint...


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