Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 11/12 (End of March 2012 onwards)

Gbear wrote: »

"all gone wrong" is a bit of an overstatement.

How many games this season have gone like the one today? I know you don't get points for trying but our problems are very clearly rectifiable.

Our style is so far divorced from the turgid, eye-rending horse**** we played under hodgson to the point where I'm enjoying watching us. Right up until we get in the box.

Kenny and the managements failure has been hamstringing the team with a lack of goals. While it's important and has been devastating, like I said, it's possible to fix.

That we've the worst chance conversion rate in the league is telling.

This a million times. Its clear people who mention Hodgson either a) Dont actually watch all that much football or are b) just trolling.

Better than Hodgsons football.....woodwork....bad finishing. Wake up lads, we're sh1te. Fcking embarrasing.

The table never lies after 34 games . . . except when it comes to Liverpool, it seems.

eldwaro wrote: »

i think there is a lot to be said for our luck...like ive never seen anything like today! was insane!

i think the season just cant end soon enough. get a signing or two in, but not a complete overall...

this is all about minds and men now, not millions.

i think its about minds and men, and millions

Phoenix Park wrote: »

i think its about minds and men, and millions

yeah sorry i was getting a little too poetic there...trying to get a better slogan than next year :P

we do need to invest, but we are not as far away as the 'neutrals' would like to make us think...

striker would be nice, a centre mid to play along side lucas to free up gerrard/henderson for when gerrard is banjaxed. one winger...not two...and were good. unless we can get a world class center half for nothing. other than that we'll survive.

When it comes down to it, its the signings that have hurt us.

If we had Demba Ba instead of Carroll, Cabaye instead of Adam and proper winger instead of Downing we would be much better off this season.

Playing the same way, same tactics but a few different signings and things could of been so different.

But whatever anyone says we have improved so much over the ****e Hodgson had us playing.

Kennys fate is sealed imo in the summer and I hope we win the cup for him. Id take another season under Dalglish as I think some people expect to much to soon.

Its clear our football has improved and it cant be denied we have been incredibly unlucky in so many games.

Im just waiting for the "Benitez returns" and 80% of people going overboard slagging him off. I for one would love to see him back.

He bought a lot of dross but he brought us Reina,Arbeloa,Garcia,Alonso,Torres,Skirtel and Mascherano.

Mr Magnolia wrote: »

Christ that was painful. Can't believe the lack of effort toward the end.

True but when youve missed over 20 chances again in a league match its just human nature to be deflated and disillusioned. Not good attitude to have with a cup final in the horizon though. Only four games left to go thankfully in the clubs worst ever league season:(

whatawaster wrote: »

A central midfielder and a pacy winger are absolutely crucial imo.

Midfielder would be nice, but without sounding like an idiot, Lucas changes the whole complexion of our midfield.

sure look...four games left until we can finally start hearing about transfers.

murpho999 wrote: »

I don't get how Rafa had a very similar last season to this one, but without the cup success but Kenny must step aside and Rafa should come in.
I think if FSG do make changes then they will drop the going back to the past idea and bring their own man in.

Tom Hicks and George Gillete say hello.

If we sign snoogie doogie in the summer all our problems will be solved.

Sir Gallagher wrote: »

Better than Hodgsons football.....woodwork....bad finishing. Wake up lads, we're sh1te. Fcking embarrasing.

This kind of argument pisses me off to no end. Why? Because it isn't an argument.

Our chance conversion rate is embarrassing alright, but generally we've mostly played good football. Today we played some brilliant stuff.

I don't think I or anyone else on this forum is suggesting that this form is good enough and that we'll get a medal for being good sports at the end of the season.

But calling us ****e when it's a very specific part of the game we're ****e at is silly.

whatawaster wrote: »

The table never lies after 34 games . . . except when it comes to Liverpool, it seems.

It doesn't lie but it's about correctly identifying the problems. That we're that far down the table doesn't mean we're entirely ****e.
We largely have a good defence. We create buckets of chances. The bizarrely awful chance conversion rate, the ludicrous numbers of times we've hit the post and sitter after sitter that we've missed can be blamed on Kenny, but only to a degree.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing. Ignore value for money for the moment. Did anyone, at the start of the season, correctly predict "we're going to have sub-relegation level finishing and goalscoring"? I don't think they did.
We see the problem now. Give Kenny a chance to rectify it. It is massively holding us back.

Saying Henderson, Spearing etc aren't good enough doesn't really work. Was it down to them that we didn't score today? Or on numerous other occasions? It's a nonsense argument that ignores the real issue.

Phoenix Park wrote: »

Assuming Suarez plays in the team then the immediate thing people are gonna look for is Carroll: Out, Big Name Goalscorer:In

Then we'd need to sign 4 attacking players. Andy isn't a goalscorer but he can be handy for tough away games and as backup.

redzerdrog wrote: »

I'd happily lose the remaining league games if it means winning the cup.

today was typical of us all season not gona dwell on it now though, roll on may 5th

I'm not giving Kenny the get out clause (which some here have been doing for two months now) of saying that the league no longer matters.

Our position is embarrassing, given our outlay on players last summer. There is no way of dressing up defeats to Wigan, QPR, West Brom etc as unlucky. We are just a poor team at the minute

100 million worth of new players and we are still lacking in the same areas we have been for years.

Gbear wrote: »

Did anyone, at the start of the season, correctly predict "we're going to have sub-relegation level finishing and goalscoring"? I don't think they did.
We see the problem now. Give Kenny a chance to rectify it. It is massively holding us back.

It's only really since Xmas it has been so bad. Spurs suffering it now but the worrying thing for us is it's more or less half a season of poor form!