Our Social Welfare system

Freddie59 · 06-04-2012 12:45PM #1

Do we have any posters who work in Social Welfare. Listed below are what, allegedly, SW provides payments for. Many of these are dismissed as urban myths. It would be nice to find out which are - and which aren't. The communion "payment" highlighted only one aspect of this last year.

* Cars
* Household appliances
* Broadband/TV payments
* Holidays
* and more

Over to you.

Agricola · 06-04-2012 12:50PM

I heard they pay for boob jobs.

Jesus Shaves · 06-04-2012 12:55PM

Freddie59 wrote: »

Do we have any posters who work in Social Welfare. Listed below are what, allegedly, SW provides payments for. Many of these are dismissed as urban myths. It would be nice to find out which are - and which aren't. The communion "payment" highlighted only one aspect of this last year.

* Cars
* Household appliances
* Broadband/TV payments
* Holidays
* and more

Over to you.

Of course they pay for broadband and tv, broadband and tv are basics nowadays, if a household appliance needs replacing obviously you would have to use your social welfare payment to buy a new one
Stupid Thread:rolleyes:

FloatingVoter · 06-04-2012 01:02PM

Of course, on my €190 pw I maintain..

a Rolls Royce, and a Porsche for the OH.
a 6ft wide plasma TV, had to build a new extension for that
I have 1 Gbs broadband (I sometimes play the markets when the racing isn't on).
I take 5 holidays a year (those frequent flier miles rack up quick).

The moon is also made of blue cheese.

Logical Fallacy · 06-04-2012 01:07PM

Freddie59 wrote: »

Do we have any posters who work in Social Welfare. Listed below are what, allegedly, SW provides payments for. Many of these are dismissed as urban myths. It would be nice to find out which are - and which aren't. The communion "payment" highlighted only one aspect of this last year.

* Cars
* Household appliances
* Broadband/TV payments
* Holidays
* and more

Over to you.

They have a website.

06-04-2012 01:10PM

Do we need two threads for your personal rants today?

If you so hate everything about this country you really should just pack up and leave, there really is no point staying here if it is causing you this much anguish.

RATM · 06-04-2012 01:12PM

FloatingVoter wrote: »

Of course, on my €190 pw I maintain..

a Rolls Royce, and a Porsche for the OH.
a 6ft wide plasma TV, had to build a new extension for that
I have 1 Gbs broadband (I sometimes play the markets when the racing isn't on).
I take 5 holidays a year (those frequent flier miles rack up quick).

The moon is also made of blue cheese.

Don't bullsh1t, the moon isn't made of blue cheese.

Zebra3 · 06-04-2012 01:14PM

Payments for kids going up as you have more?

Seriously, wtf????

No wonder so many mongs voted for Bertie and the rest of the crooks. :mad:

Bannasidhe · 06-04-2012 01:14PM

RATM wrote: »

Don't bullsh1t, the moon isn't made of blue cheese.

This is true. It is made of Camembert but the Yanks hushed it up in case the French claimed the moon was theirs.

Cool Mo D · 06-04-2012 01:16PM

Freddie59 wrote: »

Do we have any posters who work in Social Welfare. Listed below are what, allegedly, SW provides payments for. Many of these are dismissed as urban myths. It would be nice to find out which are - and which aren't. The communion "payment" highlighted only one aspect of this last year.

* Cars
* Household appliances
* Broadband/TV payments
* Holidays
* and more

Over to you.

Why don't you just look it up yourself? All the payments are here:
http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/social_welfare/social_welfare_payments/

howsyourtusk · 06-04-2012 01:19PM

Tis the dole cheats who ruined this country and until we slash the basic living standards of normal folk we'll never achieve smug self satisfaction. THE END.

gurramok · 06-04-2012 01:21PM

Cool Mo D wrote: »

Why don't you just look it up yourself? All the payments are here:
http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/social_welfare/social_welfare_payments/

It does not state what the 'once-off or exceptional needs' are, they are at the discretion of the CWO.(like the Communion grant) Hence it could be anything.

06-04-2012 01:21PM

howsyourtusk wrote: »

Tis the dole cheats who ruined this country and until we slash the basic living standards of normal folk we'll never achieve smug self satisfaction. THE END.

I thought single mothers have been the ruination of this country.

We should introduce forced abortions and steralisations for some dancing at the crossroads for others!

ejmaztec · 06-04-2012 01:25PM

The SW don't buy cars.

The HSE does.

howsyourtusk · 06-04-2012 01:28PM

RobbieTheRobber wrote: »

I thought single mothers have been the ruination of this country.

We should introduce forced abortions and steralisations for some dancing at the crossroads for others!

Yes, their lack of morality forced the FFers into the bank guarantee. I read it in Alive, the catholic newspaper. Great read.

dxhound2005 · 06-04-2012 01:38PM

Freddie59 wrote: »

Do we have any posters who work in Social Welfare. Listed below are what, allegedly, SW provides payments for. Many of these are dismissed as urban myths. It would be nice to find out which are - and which aren't. The communion "payment" highlighted only one aspect of this last year.

* Cars
* Household appliances
* Broadband/TV payments
* Holidays
* and more

Over to you.

You said urban myths.

http://www.snopes.com/business/taxes/immigrants.asp

micropig · 06-04-2012 01:42PM

They'll buy you a pram and then give you a new one every time you leave it at the bus stop:D

Capt'n Midnight · 06-04-2012 01:43PM

RATM wrote: »

Don't bullsh1t, the moon isn't made of blue cheese.

It's wensleydale.

ejmaztec · 06-04-2012 01:44PM

dxhound2005 wrote: »

You said urban myths.

http://www.snopes.com/business/taxes/immigrants.asp

But that's the US, in Ireland all bets are off.

ilovelamp2000 · 06-04-2012 01:48PM

ejmaztec wrote: »

The SW don't buy cars.

The HSE does.

I've seen the HSE pay for private healthcare for someone because their social worker wasn't happy with the waiting list in the public hospital.

dxhound2005 · 06-04-2012 01:50PM

ejmaztec wrote: »

But that's the US, in Ireland all bets are off.

Only on Good Friday.

Logical Fallacy · 06-04-2012 01:50PM

ilovelamp2000 wrote: »

I've seen the HSE pay for private healthcare for someone because their social worker wasn't happy with the waiting list in the public hospital.

What medical condition were they treated for?

ilovelamp2000 · 06-04-2012 01:51PM

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

What medical condition were they treated for?

A fake one actually.

It was for nerve conduction studies on a hand.

dxhound2005 · 06-04-2012 01:54PM

ilovelamp2000 wrote: »

A fake one actually.

It was for nerve conduction studies on a hand.

Suddenly I'm an expert on nerve conduction studies. It appears to be real.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nerve_conduction_study

Logical Fallacy · 06-04-2012 02:06PM

ilovelamp2000 wrote: »

A fake one actually.

It was for nerve conduction studies on a hand.

So they were referred to a study?

Freddie59 · 06-04-2012 03:12PM

ejmaztec wrote: »

The SW don't buy cars.

The HSE does.

Interesting.

shopaholic01 · 09-04-2012 11:04AM

howsyourtusk wrote: »

Yes, their lack of morality forced the FFers into the bank guarantee. I read it in Alive, the catholic newspaper. Great read.

:eek::eek::eek:OMG, you closed your account:(:(:(

mikemac1 · 09-04-2012 11:07AM

ilovelamp2000 wrote: »

I've seen the HSE pay for private healthcare for someone because their social worker wasn't happy with the waiting list in the public hospital.

Yes, if you're waiting twelve months or so they have a fund set aside to purchase private treatment for you

That's been around for years, hardly a secret

National Treatment Purchase fund is the obvious and boring name afaik

Ellis Dee · 09-04-2012 11:24AM

As someone who lived in the Nordic countries for decades - and is in the fortunate position of having a choice between Tullamore Hospital and the Helsinki University Central Hospital for serious surgery (guess which one I chose) - it seems to me posters here think being on welfare in Ireland is some kind of nirvana. For most people it's no pic nic, and especially since there are plenty around who begrude them every bite of food they take. In a prosperous, fairly developed country, the whole idea of a social welfare system is to enable people who, for one reason or another, are unable to provide for themselves to lead a life of human dignity. Naturally, the system should be as efficient as possible to avoid abuse and imaginative, well-resourced programmes to get as many as possible back into the workforce and the tax net need to be put in place..:)

It is not for nothing that people are often called "human resources.:cool:

They are worth protecting and developing.

Cheating and willingness to share society's resources must be treated as separate matters.

If we did as some propose and slash the Irish welfare state down to the level of that in some of the poorer EU members, then undoubtedly some non-nationals will return to their countries of origin. But how many Irish will leave as well?:D:D

Dudess · 09-04-2012 12:21PM

Re holidays and cars: does the Department of Social Welfare book holidays with Budget Travel/set up a payment plan with Windsor Motors, or how does it work?

Freddie59 · 09-04-2012 12:28PM

Ellis Dee wrote: »

As someone who lived in the Nordic countries for decades - and is in the fortunate position of having a choice between Tullamore Hospital and the Helsinki University Central Hospital for serious surgery (guess which one I chose) - it seems to me posters here think being on welfare in Ireland is some kind of nirvana. For most people it's no pic nic, and especially since there are plenty around who begrude them every bite of food they take. In a prosperous, fairly developed country, the whole idea of a social welfare system is to enable people who, for one reason or another, are unable to provide for themselves to lead a life of human dignity. Naturally, the system should be as efficient as possible to avoid abuse and imaginative, well-resourced programmes to get as many as possible back into the workforce and the tax net need to be put in place..:)

It is not for nothing that people are often called "human resources.:cool:

They are worth protecting and developing.

Cheating and willingness to share society's resources must be treated as separate matters.

If we did as some propose and slash the Irish welfare state down to the level of that in some of the poorer EU members, then undoubtedly some non-nationals will return to their countries of origin. But how many Irish will leave as well?:D:D

You might have escaped the fact that they are leaving anyway.

Our Social Welfare system

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