Name and Shame Job Bridge

ABajaninCork · 21-03-2012 01:15PM

longhalloween wrote: »

Qualifications: Third Level Diploma

Brilliant...

WTF???? This is a joke - right? Why has no-one reported this ad????

anbodhran · 21-03-2012 02:46PM

Guys,

I suggest that everyone who takes the time to read or respond to this thread should also contact their local TD. This is a Government supported scheme, so hopefully someone can create a bit of noise.

The initial aims of the scheme were quite positive, but it is seriously flawed in it's current state, and is doing more harm than good.

road_high · 21-03-2012 07:31PM

JustMary wrote: »

Seems to be the day for it:

I don't like name-and-shame, but this one posted on irishjobs.ie (where presumably they had to pay for the listing!) looks fantastic:

http://irishjobs.ie/Jobs/Accommodation-Internship-6719841.aspx

Jobseekers must be on the Live Register and have been in receipt of Jobseekers Allowance/Benefit or signing on for credits for at least 3 months
Duties include:
Ø To present for duty in full uniform including name badge.
Ø To ensure a high standard of personal hygiene.
Ø To clean public areas / toilets and sign off bathroom checklist on a hourly basis.
Ø To collect supplies including linen are directed by the department manager / asst. manager / supervisor.
Ø To adhere to and maintain all cleaning programmes as directed.
Ø To restock supplies as required or directed by the accommodation manager / asst. accommodation manager / accommodation supervisor.
Ø To damp dust vacant rooms as directed by your department head.
Ø To appropriately report and record lost and found property as detailed in the accommodation SOP.
Ø To record and report maintenance needed to your supervisor or manager.
Ø To stock all service trolleys prior to commencement and on completion of shift.
Ø To empty rubbish and clean out vacuums on a daily basis.
Ø On completion of shift, return master keys to the accommodation manager / supervisor.
Ø To be aware of the key security policy as detailed in the accommodation SOP.
Ø To ensure daily Sign In/ Sign Out sheets including breaks are completed on a daily basis.
Ø To be responsible for the cleaning of the back of house areas including staff changing areas and canteen.
Ø To maintain storage presses, and linen rooms in a presentable condition.
Ø To provide turndown service if required.
Ø Service of tea/coffee making facilities within all guestrooms.
Ø Where require, to ensure guest laundry is collected, charged and returned to guest in speedy and accurate fashion.
Ø To carry out the hotels customer relation policy.
Ø To ensure full knowledge of hotel facilities, including opening and closing times and to promote these facilities at every opportunity.
Ø Ensure work trolley is free from obstruction and not blocking passageway

Wow, they have a bleedin cheek. There's Maldron hotels off my list for any future stays.

ABajaninCork · 21-03-2012 08:29PM

anbodhran wrote: »

Guys,

I suggest that everyone who takes the time to read or respond to this thread should also contact their local TD. This is a Government supported scheme, so hopefully someone can create a bit of noise.

The initial aims of the scheme were quite positive, but it is seriously flawed in it's current state, and is doing more harm than good.

I have done just that, adding copies of the Maldron Hotel ad, and a couple of other links to dodgy internships as well. I have also asked a series of questions relating to the scheme.

Will let you know if my local TD's even BOTHER to read it or even respond....

anbodhran · 21-03-2012 09:22PM

ABajaninCork wrote: »

I have done just that, adding copies of the Maldron Hotel ad, and a couple of other links to dodgy internships as well. I have also asked a series of questions relating to the scheme.

Will let you know if my local TD's even BOTHER to read it or even respond....

My local TD responded to me within 40 minutes agreeing with most of my points, and promising to forward my concerns over to the Minister. Quite pleased with that level of effiency to start with!

ABajaninCork · 22-03-2012 02:32PM

Well - A small updae for those who might be interested....

I e-mailed all four of the local TD's last night. One has replied so far, simply stating that she passed the mail on to Minister Burton's office who will (allegedly) respond to me directly.

Don't hold your breath!:p

anbodhran · 22-03-2012 02:54PM

ABajaninCork wrote: »

Well - A small updae for those who might be interested....

I e-mailed all four of the local TD's last night. One has replied so far, simply stating that she passed the mail on to Minister Burton's office who will (allegedly) respond to me directly.

Don't hold your breath!:p

Sure if enough people do that you'd be surprised what you might achieve. I don't think any of the suggestions people here will make on the scheme would be in any way controversial, only a few tweaks to make the whole thing better.

What is really needed is someone to organise quality control. Not every job deserves to be included in the scheme obviously, so establish key entry criteria, and liaise with participants to gain feedback from their experiences.

Perhaps they can get an intern to do that!?

ABajaninCork · 22-03-2012 05:59PM

anbodhran wrote: »

Sure if enough people do that you'd be surprised what you might achieve. I don't think any of the suggestions people here will make on the scheme would be in any way controversial, only a few tweaks to make the whole thing better.

What is really needed is someone to organise quality control. Not every job deserves to be included in the scheme obviously, so establish key entry criteria, and liaise with participants to gain feedback from their experiences.

Perhaps they can get an intern to do that!?

Funny you should say that. That was one of the questions I asked! Well - one of the half dozen I asked, anyway...

I've just got an e-mail receipt from the Dept of Social Protection. So I know the Minister has got my mail. We'll see if she responds.

ABajaninCork · 27-03-2012 09:24AM

Another one for the pile!

Description
The intern will gain practical experience in customer service and will gain knowledge of various household fuels supplied by the filing station along with pricing etc of same so they can advise customers. Will gain experience on the petrol pumps and managing the car flow through this very busy filing station. The intern will receive formal/informal training in the following - customer service, time management along with learning about the full range of products on the forecourt together with in store offers. On completion the intern will have attained skills in customer service, marketing, pricing of products, trends in footfall at the filing station together with peak hours and quiet hours. The intern will also work closely with the Manager to ensure the forecourt runs smoothly.

Skills Requirements
Enthusiast individual who is looking to excel and progress within the business.

Please Note:
This is an Internship. An allowance of €50 per week will be paid in addition to your current Social Welfare payment.See eligibility criteria above.

Department
Forecourt Assistant

Mentor
The Organisation will assign a mentor to support you during the Internship.

Duration
9 Months

Number of Positions
1

Contract Type
Other

Days, Hours & Start Date
Days per week: To be Advised
Hours per day: Not specified
Hours per week: 39
Start Date: TBC

Experience Required:
No Experience Required
Education Requirements:
Junior Certificate - Individual who is willing to pursue further qualifications should they be retained on a full time basis following the internship.

anbodhran · 27-03-2012 09:58AM

Description

The intern will gain practical experience in car valet and polishing. The intern will receive formal/informal training in the following: purchasing of materials needed, e.g tar remover etc. and types of equipment used, industrial hoovers,buffers and power washers. On completion the intern will have attained skills in car valet and polishing to the highest standards.
Skills Requirements

Full clean driving licence
Please Note:

This is an Internship. An allowance of €50 per week will be paid in addition to your current Social Welfare payment.See eligibility criteria above.
Department

Valet
Mentor

The Organisation will assign a mentor to support you during the Internship.

Duration

9 Months

NakedNNettles · 27-03-2012 11:19AM

This thread reminds me of all the bloody corruption in the country, a**holes taking advantage of a system thats designed to help.

I hope no one is stupid enough to take on one of these internships, you will end up just being used like a slave for someone elses gain.

Makes me sick.

Keep up the good work people.

_Moss_ · 27-03-2012 05:31PM

anbodhran wrote: »

What is really needed is someone to organise quality control. Not every job deserves to be included in the scheme obviously, so establish key entry criteria, and liaise with participants to gain feedback from their experiences.

Perhaps they can get an intern to do that!?

Kinda like what the FAS work placement does. They actually come to have a meeting with you during the placement, speaking to the mentor as well. They're supposed to do 2 checkups but they only came to the office once... :rolleyes:
I did a placement in a small office, 1 full-time employee and the 2 owners. I loved my work placement, near the end they tried to organise enough money to employ me but the bank laughed at them. It's just the 2 owners working in the office now.

But from my experience with Jobbridge they're a joke. I made a complaint to them while on my internship, I didn't hear anything back from them after 1 email and 2 phonecalls. The 2 representatives I spoke to just told me any problem I have I should bring to my mentor... He was the problem! :mad: So I ended the internship.
I'm currently doing a FAS course while searching for a paid job. I have applied to one internship (as I can do 4 more months), it's for an administration assistant in a little b&b. I'm not naming and shaming them as I think they're a genuine case.

RacoonQueen · 28-03-2012 02:59AM

Retail Sales Position (Mobile Phone Store)

Description
The intern will gain practical experience in dealing with customers, day to day running of a busy mobile phone store, merchandising and cashier skills, dealing with the customer on a one to one basis, the intern will learn about product demonstration and being able to advise customers on the product purchase. The intern will receive formal/informal training in the following: handling customer queries and complaints, how to price, markup and reductions, operating our Paypoint system, being able to create and input purchase orders, learning the buying process. On completion the intern will have attained skills in the day to day running of a retail business accepting stock, placing orders, selling, merchandising, operating our computer system, handling cash and visa transactions.

Skills Requirements
Outgoing personality and a willingness to deal with the general public

Experience Required:
No Experience Required

==========================

Based in DUBLIN 12 Ref. INTE-672772
Description
The intern will gain practical experience in: warehousing operations. You will learn the essential skills of warehousing whilst working closely with the Warehouse Manager for guidance. The intern will receive formal/informal training in the following: manual handling, data protection, ISO warehousing procedures. On completion the intern will have attained skills in: goods inward, outward, manual handling, PDA systems, computerised systems for managing warehouse stock.

Skills Requirements
Excellent attention to detail. Genuine interest in learning about warehouse operations. Dedication and desire to succeed. No previous warehousing experience necessary.

Experience Required:
No Experience Required

ourtrail · 28-03-2012 07:32AM

Ah here......:

Tea Room AssistantBased in LETTERFRACK

Ref. INTE-671937

Description

The intern will gain practical experience in Waitress, General Catering, Interaction with Visitors both National and International, dealing with stock/deliveries. The intern will receive formal/informal training in the following: Day to day running of a tea room, working with the public/visitors to the Tea Rooms, dealing with deliveries, stock takes, food hygiene/safety. On completion the intern will have attained skills in Food Safety/Hygiene training, in accordance with HACCAP such as delivery checks - batch numbers, best before dates etc, temperature taking of fridge/freezers, also working in a team environment and will have gained skills in dealing with the public/visitors.
Skills Requirements

Out going character, peoples person, working within a team environment.

ABajaninCork · 28-03-2012 08:16AM

Oh there's loads of examples on the website.

As anBodhran says, every time we spot a dodgy ad - REPORT IT!!! TELL YOUR LOCAL TD. I reported the ad I put up yesterday as an example. I got a phone call at 7pm, promising a full investigation. What form that will take, I don't know. I'll keep you posted.

Here's the link to the online complaint form: http://www.jobbridge.ie/feedback.aspx

I personally believe that as this is a flagship Government policy, politicians are desperate for it to work. Fair enough. But all they are doing is flinging up any and all roles without even checking in order to say: Look! We have loads of internships, employers are fully engaged with the process and it's working!!

There are loads of great opportunities on there where employers HAVE taken the time and trouble to think about making the experience a positive one for both parties. But there's always employers who will seek to take advantage of the situation (Never waste a good recession and all that) and seek to exploit it to their own advantage.

I've found it's no good getting angry. I'll just keep on reporting these ads and keeping the Complaints Department very busy. Maybe then they'll get their arses in gear and start putting proper controls as to what goes on the website.

And breathe...:D

anbodhran · 30-03-2012 10:39AM

I just received a written response to my query re the internships from Joan Burton.

Quite detailed - 2.5 pages, is basically says that they have systems in place to ensure the quality and integrity of the positions meet a reasonable standard, this included monthly reviews and random monitoring. She states that if candidates have complaints they will be fully investigated.

It says that firms must also agree that the internships must not displace an existing position.

There was also mention that they want to take people off the live register, while keeping them at home and away from the threat of emigration.

So, I'm reasonably happy with that. My TD has done his job, Joan has responded in a timely fashion. I'll be responding that while all the above might have been intended, there are still unsuitable positions getting through the net.

ABajaninCork · 30-03-2012 11:01AM

Pretty good - Well done!!:D

I'm still awaiting a response from the Minister about my mail, but I assume it'll be along the same lines as yours AnBodhran as well as a complaint I made earlier this week.

I went for a Jobbridge interview this week. I was told that Jobbridge do ask for quite a lot of feedback which is pretty detailed. Apparently a questionnaire is sent every month. On this, they have to detail what training was given, and how the intern is performing in the role amongst other things.

I think it'll be a case of watch this space!

Renn · 30-03-2012 01:18PM

http://www.jobs.ie/ApplyForJob.aspx?Id=1159060

Am I wrong in thinking that this is being incredibly cheeky? This stuff just annoys me...

Job Requirements
•Relevant third level qualification
•Strong communication and interpersonal skills combined with sound judgment are required to facilitate work with a wide range of individuals and groups;
•Demonstrated capability and sensitivity to manage key business relationships as the role involves a high degree of interaction and collaboration with key stakeholders;
•Self-starter with high motivation and the ability to work flexibly on own initiative to achieve goals within agreed timeframes.
•Proven organisational capability and high levels of personal effectiveness.
•Strong intellectual, analytical and thinking skills.
•Strong IT capability, in particular advanced MS Excel, Word & Access skills, and the ability to learn and work efficiently with multiple systems of information

AnnyHallsal · 31-03-2012 05:39PM

Yada yada. I have yet to have a monthly review or any kind of contact from JobBridge three months in.

Shalashaska · 31-03-2012 07:05PM

AnnyHallsal wrote: »

Yada yada. I have yet to have a monthly review or any kind of contact from JobBridge three months in.

From my experience on a WPP program, they may say on paper that a FÁS member will visit the workplace to assess the progress of the internship, but in reality they don't have the manpower to go to every place in the country that is using a FÁS sanctioned internship.

the_syco · 01-04-2012 01:04AM

anbodhran wrote: »

My TD has done his job, Joan has responded in a timely fashion.

Erm, have a look at www.joanburton.ie and I'm sure you'll see many manly features in her face :pac:

Renn wrote: »

http://www.jobs.ie/ApplyForJob.aspx?Id=1159060

Am I wrong in thinking that this is being incredibly cheeky? This stuff just annoys me...

I could be wrong, but I think these have being doing some sort of proper internships before it became government sponsored, and not like the mickey-mouse fudge packing internships at big supermarkets that are lately all the rage.

anbodhran · 01-04-2012 01:48PM

the_syco wrote: »

Erm, have a look at www.joanburton.ie and I'm sure you'll see many manly features in her face :pac:

Eh, my TD did his job - and is a man. I emailed him first, and he then put a formal question into Joan Burton.

the_syco · 01-04-2012 03:07PM

anbodhran wrote: »

Eh, my TD did his job - and is a man. I emailed him first, and he then put a formal question into Joan Burton.

Ah, that makes more sense. The way it was worded caused me to lol. Ah well, glad the politicians are sort of looking into it. Someone posted about an internship that they get €50 extra that works in the government offices, so I'd wonder how seriously they'll take the complaints?

RacoonQueen · 04-04-2012 03:17PM

http://www.broadsheet.ie/2012/04/04/anything-good-on-jobbridge/

IHateMondays · 11-04-2012 08:01PM

Spotted this a couple of weeks ago, a RECRUITMENT AGENCY (no less!!) advertising a Job Bridge Internship!!!! How the hell are they getting away this?
http://www.recruitireland.com/job/jobremoved.asp?JobID=14580206

ABajaninCork · 11-04-2012 08:15PM

The job's now been removed.

From what I could see, the internship was for a client of the agency who needed an intern. Nothing wrong with that!

Maybe the client realised that it was a waste of time paying the recruitment agency when the post could've been advertised on the Jobbridge website for free!

IHateMondays · 12-04-2012 01:32PM

ABajaninCork wrote: »

The job's now been removed.

From what I could see, the internship was for a client of the agency who needed an intern. Nothing wrong with that!

Maybe the client realised that it was a waste of time paying the recruitment agency when the post could've been advertised on the Jobbridge website for free!

ABajaninCork;78077220, of course the job posting was for a company and not the recruitment agency itself. Here is an insight to how recruitment agencies work. They have KPI's to work to and often post fake job postings to get CV's in so they can get leads off them. In the case I highlighted above, this agency where doing exactly that.

ABajaninCork · 12-04-2012 04:41PM

IHateMondays wrote: »

ABajaninCork;78077220, of course the job posting was for a company and not the recruitment agency itself. Here is an insight to how recruitment agencies work. They have KPI's to work to and often post fake job postings to get CV's in so they can get leads off them. In the case I highlighted above, this agency where doing exactly that.

Really -You don't say? I would NEVER have guessed that! :rolleyes:

LFC5Times · 18-04-2012 04:27PM

http://jobseeker.fas.ie/Default.aspx?q=B+fomdowzS8kaDnSlUDk1zaMUPiFEeNrNWjviinu490thmC2C0u+DDiW55/GsOduFjAFCAw37rWzWAwHf4r4NspZowe89+ci0Qjj3jXJe6LmFsJswMuwOz19gRG3JM+BlNlLwUT6cJJwn1LxNvl1F9BGoOTQcoQZDvoju3TrfnpvMHdfz+ce/8h7lP8+625Gr8w2Q7E2BFOYXojhsqU6QIyYUMgCYhl6A5iI3uF/k1nUnBi1UFctfDZtFqK+ilL/OATQPDDydXq+vqbjg5t6KyJf7CAG069HAtgCUz54nyQUpukyzKkKV31qBoeNId3zz4/KtxHpUjySMXPVa+C8OnFqIIKNi44gScTwdx1j1kZrRjpi1KfNk7KNmhf8BlUwsPAQeL76o5WOnBx/jviAKmicexRpeooOL+5txC95RrbkGD76IJy+XZ1UKtkPBLRVKkNCSNARgjfyC9ixNKSuQCF75ssZC0Ik

http://jobseeker.fas.ie/Default.aspx?q=B+fomdowzS8kaDnSlUDk1zaMUPiFEeNrNWjviinu490thmC2C0u+DNX84Drl+WI770VIN1oqi6AzgyOWOuiecBQ0qMEw1fvisH9dZOo4oy2mZgYYQR7dYztO7fND0KHCldJkSp0rY8k2xtI/MI9IsuFgqIlrTFxvtNlvNucyAaBTWO6Pi/mYAIYRRf/v+oCUdws8jRLe7YQEJCv9KKz2Un8MCO7tzbAyzb+uDjL9Db1vojv1o6cxNicuFma234rDfiZcwjNf4g+be54xNnr5d5kzR0PjHNnMdPFi+fW/uPQE3KBAUMP1Fp7sVMpMj+IMfJfnQ/WPy1gi+94I+AefGIDvyEJrdkSKCpzGCSr3NTYvQbUp/eLysG2NUQZ2PHbXspi4pyL9ZSBFueSRU63ByXNWp4cA6NqVV67HU1lpeTeU2Frw6wvj4nwRw5eEMal+nlaYQ2fxGWWXhGi6PeO+Whb0ymwFPtwq

RacoonQueen · 27-04-2012 10:33PM

This one has really pissed me off. As someone who used to work in another curves I can confirm it takes no skills whatsoever to work here, there is minimum training required and working there would not benefit anyone in any way if they wanted another job in the fitness industry.

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Based in LUCAN Ref. INTE-679748
Description
The intern will gain practical experience in servicing members & membership sales. The intern will receive formal/informal training in the following: Curves Learning Experiences (workout, guest production, sales, personal coaching) customer service, Curves Weight Management programme. On completion the intern will have attained skills in: data management using GoFigure Software, teaching & coaching Curves workout, sales, Curves Weight Management program

Skills Requirements
Health and Fitness Industry/Qualifications. Interest in all aspects of Health and Fitness. Outgoing/Self motivated and capable of motivating others. Flexible. Positive attitude. Computer Literate.

Please Note:
This is an Internship. An allowance of €50 per week will be paid in addition to your current Social Welfare payment.See eligibility criteria above.

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