Manchester United Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 11/12

Will I Amnt · 25-03-2012 10:09AM

nuxxx wrote: »

In fairness United have the handiest run in you could ask for, City have a tough one

Monday, March 26 2012
Manchester United - Fulham (20.00)
Monday, April 2 2012
Blackburn Rovers - Manchester United (20.00)
Sunday, April 8 2012
Manchester United - Queens Park Rangers (13.30)
Wednesday, April 11 2012
Wigan Athletic - Manchester United (19.45)
Sunday, April 15 2012
Manchester United - Aston Villa (16.00)
Sunday, April 22 2012
Manchester United - Everton (12.30)
Monday, April 30 2012
Manchester City - Manchester United (20.00)
Sunday, May 6 2012
Manchester United - Swansea City (14.00)
Sunday, May 13 2012
Sunderland - Manchester United (15.00)

So we have no Saturday games left for the rest of the season.
That's a bit shìt.

The_Kew_Tour · 25-03-2012 10:28AM

God I love to go to another away game by end of season.

Would go to Wigan if it was on weekend as would be certain of ticket for it, but not hope I will get time of work I say.

Son Of A Vidic · 25-03-2012 10:29AM

A good result yesterday and hopefully City's shít away from will continue. So providing United maintain their league form, they could end up playing City with a cushion of points.

homerjay2005 · 25-03-2012 10:34AM

Mikeyt086 wrote: »

Sound Stoke, for at least giving it the same amount of socks you did against us.

Crouchy, who knew?

ex united/liverpool players have been giving us a bit of pleasure lately!

crouch last night
cisse during the week against liverpool
gibson beating city.
even roy did his bit beating chelsea a few weeks back!

then the united lads beating city at sunderland.

and i am sure theres more

MJRS · 25-03-2012 10:50AM

cambo2008 wrote: »

So we have no Saturday games left for the rest of the season.
That's a bit shìt.

Didn't even notice that. Might hafta change my day off to Sunday. And the odd sneaky Monday.

G.K. · 25-03-2012 11:11AM

City have a better squad than United.

United are superior at CB, and 1st choice wingers.

City have better FB, CM, overall winger and CF options.

They each have an exceptional young keeper with a flaw.

Justy my opinion, feel free to disagree.

homerjay2005 · 25-03-2012 11:14AM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

God I love to go to another away game by end of season.

Would go to Wigan if it was on weekend as would be certain of ticket for it, but not hope I will get time of work I say.

mate, you wouldnt do me a huge favour and give me that ticket would you? i have one for myself, but i need one for a mate (big poster on here), as well, going to games on my own just doesnt appeal to me really, i havent booked the flights yet either.

i will return the favour like i do with anybody who sorts me out, you can use my membership to apply for aways next season for games like this.

homerjay2005 · 25-03-2012 11:20AM

G.K. wrote: »

City have a better squad than United.

United are superior at CB, and 1st choice wingers.

City have better FB, CM, overall winger and CF options.

They each have an exceptional young keeper with a flaw.

Justy my opinion, feel free to disagree.

i dont think its opinion to see that united have had about 18 different players injured for more than 5 games this year, city have had about 5 or 6 yet united have a chance to go 3 points clear tomorrow. Citys injury problems have been about 25% of uniteds.

when city go down 3 or 4 players, they are in big big trouble and despite united still having many key players out (such as vidic, fletcher, valencia, nani, cleverly, anderson, lindegaard all in the past 4 weeks), we seem to be able to cope alot better.

that to me suggest that united have a much better squad. city have a stronger first 11, but only based on their CM options of Barry, de jong, yaya, milner, nasri etc etc when uniteds appear to be injured all the time and relying on bringing back scholes. i think uniteds big players are coming into form.

Mancini was crying in january that he needed to buy players, despite the club having spent 500million in 3 years. their last 2 signings were hargreaves and pizarro ffs, hardly inspiring..

Mars Bar · 25-03-2012 11:24AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utd_fTfetrw

What was the manager thinking? Cofie was not impressed at all. Good to see him get his game at Antwerp.

enviro · 25-03-2012 11:33AM

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Will I Amnt · 25-03-2012 11:38AM

Mars Bar wrote: »

What was the manager thinking? Cofie was not impressed at all. Good to see him get his game at Antwerp.

Should have hit the deck when he seen the leg come up,turn him upside down with a sliding tackle

Mr.Crinklewood · 25-03-2012 11:48AM

Milkman Scholesy ( stolen from Redissue )

Son Of A Vidic · 25-03-2012 01:23PM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

Mancini was crying in january that he needed to buy players, despite the club having spent 500million in 3 years.

When Kompany was out, Mancini and their fans couldn't stop bítch moaning about it. One player they lost, yet at the time United had 17 guys on the treatment bench. If nothing else, it came across as being quite pathetic and embarrassing for City.

Adolf Hipster · 25-03-2012 04:39PM

kryogen wrote: »

Adolf Hipster wrote: »

I know alot of people here liked rvn and rated him as one of the best poachers in recent times...

How would people compare mario gomez to him? Tearing **** up in germany and probably the best poacher in the world at the moment imo.

I have debated this with people plenty of time, its far too early for me to go into all my thoughts on him again, but Ill say this, the man just scores goals. Wouldnt be his biggest fan in terms of his ability, but by fcuk does he score goals.

Have him backed to be Bundesliga top scorer, have him backed to be CL top scorer (fcuk you Messi) dont think there is a need for him at the club however

Oh I'm not saying we should buy him, price would be ridiculous, was just interested in how people would rate him compared to rvn in his prime.

G.K. · 25-03-2012 05:05PM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

i dont think its opinion to see that united have had about 18 different players injured for more than 5 games this year, city have had about 5 or 6 yet united have a chance to go 3 points clear tomorrow. Citys injury problems have been about 25% of uniteds.

Not sure how this is relevant to my point?

homerjay2005 wrote: »

when city go down 3 or 4 players, they are in big big trouble and despite united still having many key players out (such as vidic, fletcher, valencia, nani, cleverly, anderson, lindegaard all in the past 4 weeks), we seem to be able to cope alot better.

That's down to 2 things, IMO. Manchester City are still gelling together and with Mancini's change of style this seaosn, while there has been much less change in terms of personnel and style with United. Also United have Fergie.

homerjay2005 wrote: »

that to me suggest that united have a much better squad. city have a stronger first 11, but only based on their CM options of Barry, de jong, yaya, milner, nasri etc etc when uniteds appear to be injured all the time and relying on bringing back scholes. i think uniteds big players are coming into form.

I don't quite follow you here.

homerjay2005 wrote: »

Mancini was crying in january that he needed to buy players, despite the club having spent 500million in 3 years. their last 2 signings were hargreaves and pizarro ffs, hardly inspiring..

Harsh on a guy who had been one of Serie A's best and most consistent performers for a number of years previously.

kryogen · 25-03-2012 05:44PM

Adolf Hipster wrote: »

Oh I'm not saying we should buy him, price would be ridiculous, was just interested in how people would rate him compared to rvn in his prime.

I'd take Ruud over him personally. I'm sure Gomez has his supporters too though................somewhere.............

kryogen · 25-03-2012 05:46PM

How many games had Pizzaro got this season though? He was bought as cover, nothing wrong with that.

It took a bit of convincing but I now firmly believe that United do actually have a superior squad to City, not by that much, certainly not miles better, but significantly better imo.

Better strength in depth everywhere bar centre midfield really.

counterlock · 25-03-2012 05:59PM

G.K. wrote: »

Harsh on a guy who had been one of Serie A's best and most consistent performers for a number of years previously.

I think the point here is that if you spend 500 million you shouldn't be complaining about a weak squad

G.K. · 25-03-2012 06:35PM

kryogen wrote: »

How many games had Pizzaro got this season though? He was bought as cover, nothing wrong with that.

It took a bit of convincing but I now firmly believe that United do actually have a superior squad to City, not by that much, certainly not miles better, but significantly better imo.

Better strength in depth everywhere bar centre midfield really.

City have better Full Backs, Wingers (I think Nani-Valencia is the best pairing in the EPL, but City's depth is superior), CM and Forwards.

counterlock wrote: »

I think the point here is that if you spend 500 million you shouldn't be complaining about a weak squad

http://www.lifesapitch.co.uk/opinions/man-city-need-more-creativity-from-deep-to-conquer-europe/
http://espn.go.com/sports/soccer/story/_/id/7531746/david-pizarro-key-city-campaign-michael-cox

That would be my response to that.

RasTa · 25-03-2012 06:42PM

G.K. wrote: »

City have better Full Backs, Wingers (I think Nani-Valencia is the best pairing in the EPL, but City's depth is superior), CM and Forwards.

On the wing? Name them then because I can't think of any bar Johnson atm and he's not deemed good enough for games.

G.K. · 25-03-2012 06:50PM

Silva, Nasri, Milner are the other guys who play on the wing regularly. (Balotelli/Kolarov have, but then again Cleverly played on the wing once and I'd not call him a winger)

Silva's the best of either team, United have the best Pairing, but overall the depth goes to City imo, Park and Young don't strike me as good as City's depth.

RasTa · 25-03-2012 06:57PM

G.K. wrote: »

Silva, Nasri, Milner are the other guys who play on the wing regularly. (Balotelli/Kolarov have, but then again Cleverly played on the wing once and I'd not call him a winger)

Silva's the best of either team, United have the best Pairing, but overall the depth goes to City imo, Park and Young don't strike me as good as City's depth.

Nah no chance, Valencia and Nani are better natural wingers then Silva.
Valencia, Nani, Young, Giggs if needed for the last 20mins and Welbeck in a 4-3-3.

Adolf Hipster · 25-03-2012 07:02PM

G.K. wrote: »

Silva, Nasri, Milner are the other guys who play on the wing regularly. (Balotelli/Kolarov have, but then again Cleverly played on the wing once and I'd not call him a winger)

Silva's the best of either team, United have the best Pairing, but overall the depth goes to City imo, Park and Young don't strike me as good as City's depth.

Silva - 7 Goals 18 Assists
Milner - 3 Goals 6 Assists
Nasri - 5 Goals 7 Assists

Total = 15 Goals - 31 Assists

Nani - 8 Goals 11 Assists
Valencia - 5 Goals 14 Assists
Young - 5 Goals 10 Assists.

Total = 18 Goals 35 Assists

There isn't much between them but I do think United shade it.

DM_7 · 25-03-2012 07:10PM

United Clearly have the best wingers in the EPL.

City have better creative players that operate in central positions. Nasri and Silva may take to the field in wide positions but do their best work in Central Positions.

also Milner and Barry are not players I would ever fear playing. The fill the home grown quota I suppose.

I think United have the best squad in the league.

Lukekul · 25-03-2012 07:48PM

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The many faces of Phil Jones

Friel · 25-03-2012 07:49PM

Haha thats brilliant.

VW 1 · 25-03-2012 08:43PM

Adolf Hipster wrote: »

G.K. wrote: »

Silva, Nasri, Milner are the other guys who play on the wing regularly. (Balotelli/Kolarov have, but then again Cleverly played on the wing once and I'd not call him a winger)

Silva's the best of either team, United have the best Pairing, but overall the depth goes to City imo, Park and Young don't strike me as good as City's depth.

Silva - 7 Goals 18 Assists
Milner - 3 Goals 6 Assists
Nasri - 5 Goals 7 Assists

Total = 15 Goals - 31 Assists

Nani - 8 Goals 11 Assists
Valencia - 5 Goals 14 Assists
Young - 5 Goals 10 Assists.

Total = 18 Goals 35 Assists

There isn't much between them but I do think United shade it.

That makes it look closer than it is, a lot of Silva and Nasri's assists probably came playing through the middle whereas Uniteds will have come almost exclusively from the wing.

Silva on form is the best player in the league for me but he is certainly not any kind of winger. The only time he plays as any form of a winger is when he floats out that direction in his free role.

enviro · 25-03-2012 09:00PM

VW 1 wrote: »

Silva on form is the best player in the league for me

World Class player on form alright but I don't think he stands out above some other world class players when on form as well like Rooney, RVP to name two.

Not in the same way Messi and Ronaldo are clearly the top two players in Spain on form.

Or did you mean best midfield player?

homerjay2005 · 25-03-2012 10:24PM

right now, if i was given the choice who i would depend on to win my a league title, valencia/rooney v silva/ageuro., its the united pair every time, every game.

no contest for me.

markc1184 · 25-03-2012 10:45PM

I see tomorrows Sun is showing Rio is to be offered a new contract.

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