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Debt collectors

  • 16-03-2012 05:04PM
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,671 ✭✭✭


    So I owe about 300 euro to Bank of Ireland, as I have been living abroad for ages and although I had a debt of about 5k on a credit card I never completely paid it off, it was 150 or something but they put interest on it etc. Anyway it was registered to one of my friends houses, and they keep getting letters about sheriffs and district courts and all kinds of mullarkey. I don't really care about my credit rating or anything like that, but why are they going through all this hassle for a few hundred euros? I think BOI passed on the debt to some agency, and they are saying they will reposess my stuff etc if I dont pay. But I haven't lived at that address in 7 years and they have no way of knowing where I am. Has anyone had this happen before? What can they do?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,646 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Just f*cking pay the money!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,671 ✭✭✭BraziliaNZ


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    Just f*cking pay the money!

    No, BOI are assholes and I have even less respect for them now that they're going through all this trouble. Surely they have better things to be doing? I must have paid them a fortune in interest and credit card bills over the years I was with them anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,499 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Be careful its not the Viper they have after you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,157 ✭✭✭keithclancy


    BraziliaNZ wrote: »
    So I owe about 300 euro to Bank of Ireland, as I have been living abroad for ages and although I had a debt of about 5k on a credit card I never completely paid it off, it was 150 or something but they put interest on it etc. Anyway it was registered to one of my friends houses, and they keep getting letters about sheriffs and district courts and all kinds of mullarkey. I don't really care about my credit rating or anything like that, but why are they going through all this hassle for a few hundred euros? I think BOI passed on the debt to some agency, and they are saying they will reposess my stuff etc if I dont pay. But I haven't lived at that address in 7 years and they have no way of knowing where I am. Has anyone had this happen before? What can they do?

    I'd be careful there man, you've left it get to a stage where its gone to court, they may make a judgement in your absence and a warrant will eventually be issued for your arrest.

    http://www.herald.ie/news/courts/credit-card-debt-mum-wont-be-jailed-1748305.html

    Its not a case anymore of whether you owe the money to BOI or not, its a case of whether your going to jail or not the next time your back in Ireland.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,646 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    You ran up debt on your credit Card, it's your own fault, it's not as if they are stealing from you. You spent their money on goods and services and now you don't want to pay them back.

    As for interest etc, that's what you agreed to. You know what you were doing and now making excuses not to pay them back.

    Just pay what yo owe!


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,671 ✭✭✭BraziliaNZ


    I'd be careful there man, you've left it get to a stage where its gone to court, they may make a judgement in your absence and a warrant will eventually be issued for your arrest.

    http://www.herald.ie/news/courts/credit-card-debt-mum-wont-be-jailed-1748305.html

    Its not a case anymore of whether you owe the money to BOI or not, its a case of whether your going to jail or not the next time your back in Ireland.

    but for all they know i never received any warnings or letters from them. But yeah, looks like I can never go home lol.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 237 ✭✭Old Tom


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    Just f*cking pay the money!

    He paid them already in taxes... I guess they're the bastards who owe him money at this stage.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,059 ✭✭✭Sindri


    Fake your death!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,646 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Old Tom wrote: »
    He paid them already in taxes... I guess they're the bastards who owe him money at this stage.

    He lives abroad. I doubt he's been paying tax here for the last while now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,545 ✭✭✭Hogzy


    BraziliaNZ wrote: »
    No, BOI are assholes and I have even less respect for them now that they're going through all this trouble. Surely they have better things to be doing? I must have paid them a fortune in interest and credit card bills over the years I was with them anyway.

    So you borrowed their money and didnt pay it back and the Bank Of Ireland are the assholes for wanting it back?


    lol. Im glad you emigrated.

    Old Tom wrote: »
    He paid them already in taxes... I guess they're the bastards who owe him money at this stage.

    You do realise who we pay taxes to dont you?
    Maybe you should emigrate too.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,671 ✭✭✭BraziliaNZ


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    You ran up debt on your credit Card, it's your own fault, it's not as if they are stealing from you. You spent their money on goods and services and now you don't want to pay them back.

    As for interest etc, that's what you agreed to. You know what you were doing and now making excuses not to pay them back.

    Just pay what yo owe!

    I would pay them back if I was living there but the guys who live at that place are total stoners and wont even forward the letters to me and I can't get any info out of them.
    BOI had sent a letter to my other address saying that as there was no activity in my current/savings account for so long that they were no longer doing business with me and closing my accounts. When I logged into the internet banking last time the credit card statement was unavailable and the amount just said ####. They haven't got word through to me about anything, so am I still a criminal here if, whenever/if I go home, I agreed to pay?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 237 ✭✭Old Tom


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    He lives abroad. I doubt he's been paying tax here for the last while now.
    Ok so.
    Then I don't have any debts and I've been paying loads of taxes that still have been used to bailout the banks, giving me feck all in exchange. They can have the money I've been forced to pay to cover his debts. Makes sense, doesn't it?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,671 ✭✭✭BraziliaNZ


    Hogzy wrote: »
    So you borrowed money and didnt pay it back and the Bank Of Ireland are the assholes for wanting it back?


    lol. Im glad you emigrated.

    Thanks. How come they don't have to pay their debts and get bailed out? You're one of the few if you're on the bankers side these days!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,499 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Pacta sunt servanda.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 237 ✭✭Old Tom


    BraziliaNZ wrote: »
    Thanks. How come they don't have to pay their debts and get bailed out? You're one of the few if you're on the bankers side these days!
    Ha, and how come they have right to get the interest on the money people get off them, but is doesn't work the other way around? It's obvious that the tax money that have been used to bailout the bankers are never going to be returned.


    Sorry, it's too serious for AH as some people were bitching recently.

    AH response: blast them with piss...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,536 ✭✭✭Stiffler2


    Fair Play to ya OP, F**K the bank, don't pay em back.

    I wonder if Seanie gets these letters as well :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,211 ✭✭✭Owen_S


    Sindri wrote: »
    Fake your death!!!!
    Sure a decent canoe costs more than he owes anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,059 ✭✭✭Sindri


    Owen_S wrote: »
    Sure a decent canoe costs more than he owes anyway.

    That's where you have it all wrong. A decent canoe. ;)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,202 ✭✭✭Rabidlamb


    BraziliaNZ wrote: »
    So I owe about 300 euro to Bank of Ireland, as I have been living abroad for ages and although I had a debt of about 5k on a credit card I never completely paid it off, it was 150 or something but they put interest on it etc.

    Have you cancelled this card.
    They'll keep adding penalties & interest every month if you don't cancel the card.
    They may have cancelled it already themselves but it's worth checking.
    BraziliaNZ wrote: »
    Anyway it was registered to one of my friends houses, and they keep getting letters about sheriffs and district courts and all kinds of mullarkey. I don't really care about my credit rating or anything like that, but why are they going through all this hassle for a few hundred euros? I think BOI passed on the debt to some agency, and they are saying they will reposess my stuff etc if I dont pay. But I haven't lived at that address in 7 years and they have no way of knowing where I am. Has anyone had this happen before? What can they do?

    Ok, if it has been passed on to a Debt Collectors (Cabot Financial, Interim Justia) they have no power to repossess anything.
    They use this threat as a scare tactic to shake out the low hanging fruit.
    As you're not living at that address their is a double reason not to worry on that point, only a court appointed sherrif has the power to remove goods.
    Count yourself lucky they don't have an existing number for you or you'd be getting hounded every day.
    They have bought the debt from the existing CC company, probably for a very small amount with a hope of recouping more than they paid for it.
    The letters will go in a cycle & you'll receive threats of court & draft summonses that look authentic with your name & a court date TBC.
    These "solicitors" work full-time for the Debt Collectors changing names & figures on letter templates.
    After time you'll receive an offer from them asking for 50% or less of the amount owed to settle the matter.
    Normally they give up after 3-6 months of being ignored but occasionally you'll get another fishing letter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,545 ✭✭✭Hogzy


    Old Tom wrote: »
    Ha, and how come they have right to get the interest on the money people get off them, but is doesn't work the other way around? It's obvious that the tax money that have been used to bailout the bankers are never going to be returned.

    It does work the other way around. If you deposit money in the bank you earn interest on it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,528 ✭✭✭foxyboxer


    Keep all 1c coins from now on.
    When you have 30,000, hand them in, in Bank of Ireland plastic money bags with 'C*NTS' written on each bag.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,671 ✭✭✭BraziliaNZ


    Rabidlamb wrote: »
    Have you cancelled this card.
    They'll keep adding penalties & interest every month if you don't cancel the card.
    They may have cancelled it already themselves but it's worth checking.



    Ok, if it has been passed on to a Debt Collectors (Cabot Financial, Interim Justia) they have no power to repossess anything.
    They use this threat as a scare tactic to shake out the low hanging fruit.
    As you're not living at that address their is a double reason not to worry on that point, only a court appointed sherrif has the power to remove goods.
    Count yourself lucky they don't have an existing number for you or you'd be getting hounded every day.
    They have bought the debt from the existing CC company, probably for a very small amount with a hope of recouping more than they paid for it.
    The letters will go in a cycle & you'll receive threats of court & draft summonses that look authentic with your name & a court date TBC.
    These "solicitors" work full-time for the Debt Collectors changing names & figures on letter templates.
    After time you'll receive an offer from them asking for 50% or less of the amount owed to settle the matter.
    Normally they give up after 3-6 months of being ignored but occasionally you'll get another fishing letter.

    You're a legend. This is music to my ears as I'm about to go out and enjoy a post work beer on a Friday. Have you been through this yourself? I'd thank you a hundred times if I could, have a nice weekend.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,730 ✭✭✭Bullseye1


    If I were your friend I'd be sending a solicitors letter. Why are they harrassing them? Where you living at that address?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,822 ✭✭✭Mickey H


    foxyboxer wrote: »
    Keep all 1c coins from now on.
    When you have 30,000, hand them in, in Bank of Ireland plastic money bags with 'C*NTS' written on each bag.

    Too much hassle. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,042 ✭✭✭who the fug


    Block you number
    Call Debt collector
    Haggle


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,050 ✭✭✭token101


    BraziliaNZ wrote: »
    Thanks. How come they don't have to pay their debts and get bailed out? You're one of the few if you're on the bankers side these days!

    Because people like you don't f***ing pay!! And they do pay their debts, that's the entire point of the bailout.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,822 ✭✭✭Mickey H


    Block you number
    Call Debt collector
    Haggle

    Bound to work a treat. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    The viper being a debt collector is a laugh. So what. He can't put a finger on you. What is going to do as a high profile ex criminal probably out of condition of good behavior? Batter somebody in the course of a traceable position of employment?

    Debt collectors will just hassle you. Call round all the time etc. It's silly to have your credit rating affected and bring hassle on that address over a few hundred quid.

    The debt collector usually assumes your debt for a price I think.

    If my 'friend' had debt collectors hassling my address over a couple of hundred quid he was too cheap to pay, I would batter them myself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,157 ✭✭✭keithclancy


    Rabidlamb wrote: »
    Have you cancelled this card.
    They'll keep adding penalties & interest every month if you don't cancel the card.
    They may have cancelled it already themselves but it's worth checking.



    Ok, if it has been passed on to a Debt Collectors (Cabot Financial, Interim Justia) they have no power to repossess anything.
    They use this threat as a scare tactic to shake out the low hanging fruit.
    As you're not living at that address their is a double reason not to worry on that point, only a court appointed sherrif has the power to remove goods.
    Count yourself lucky they don't have an existing number for you or you'd be getting hounded every day.
    They have bought the debt from the existing CC company, probably for a very small amount with a hope of recouping more than they paid for it.
    The letters will go in a cycle & you'll receive threats of court & draft summonses that look authentic with your name & a court date TBC.
    These "solicitors" work full-time for the Debt Collectors changing names & figures on letter templates.
    After time you'll receive an offer from them asking for 50% or less of the amount owed to settle the matter.
    Normally they give up after 3-6 months of being ignored but occasionally you'll get another fishing letter.

    Its a bit late for that since:
    Anyway it was registered to one of my friends houses, and they keep getting letters about sheriffs and district courts and all kinds of mullarkey.

    Have the Gardai tried to deliver a summons op ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 57,077 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    token101 wrote: »
    Because people like you don't f***ing pay!! And they do pay their debts, that's the entire point of the bailout.

    Are WE not paying THEIR debts ?


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