Skeletons in the closet at Human Body Exhibit

WindSock · 06-03-2012 07:11PM

Bad Panda wrote: »

I hope they're warm and moist on the inside.

I don't know I just bought them to carry in my bag. A bag o' gees.

squod · 06-03-2012 07:16PM

Peetrik wrote: »

Prices: Adults €20 / Concessions €16 / Children €12 / Family €56

Costs an arm and a leg :eek:

hooradiation · 06-03-2012 07:17PM

prinz wrote: »

I'd also argue there is a huge difference between science, education and research and the modern day equivalent of a travelling freakshow peddling the taboo nature of the fact that they are real bodies for profit. There is no science there.

Actually, as someone who had a keen interest in science up to and including the LC I found it amazingly educational and fascinating to see the internal systems I had previously only seen in the form of crude diagrams in a biology textbook up close. The model of the circulatory system being a particular highlight.

But hey, you're morally outraged, guess I must have imagined it....

al28283 · 06-03-2012 07:17PM

Phill Ewinn wrote: »

''The specimens featured in The Human Body
Exhibition were donated in accordance with
Chinese law to the Dalian Hoffen Biotechnique
Laboratory which engages in research and
innovation of the Plastination''

Thats the issue. The bodies didn't consent previous to their death. So talk to Joe says. Unclear if it's legal here.

Would you be against burning or burying the bodies without previous consent?

Nodin · 06-03-2012 07:18PM

WindSock wrote: »

I don't know I just bought them to carry in my bag. A bag o' gees.

He probably got some second hand ones before.

Mr.Crinklewood · 06-03-2012 07:33PM

LyndaMcL wrote: »

Why would you pay to see dead bodies, when you can just sneak into a morgue and ride them for free?

You have PM.

micropig · 06-03-2012 07:48PM

Phill Ewinn wrote: »

Just to add the caller alleged the other bodies were unclaimed people from Syria and China. Also that they wouldn't be allowed use these bodies for teaching in Ireland as they don't have consent from the person or their relatives.

Ah now, I think the teachers we have do a slightly better job than a dead body would:p

angry kitten · 06-03-2012 07:52PM

Phill Ewinn wrote: »

''The specimens featured in The Human Body
Exhibition were donated in accordance with
Chinese law to the Dalian Hoffen Biotechnique
Laboratory which engages in research and
innovation of the Plastination''

Thats the issue. The bodies didn't consent previous to their death. So talk to Joe says. Unclear if it's legal here.

Ah yes, and the Chinese government are well known for their respect for human rights.

paddyandy · 08-03-2012 01:43AM

You can depend on entertainment to downgrade human dignity and call it educational or art or a good cause or something just to make money . We never needed to see our innards in order for them to work; in that case they should be outside our bodies .

ziggy23 · 08-03-2012 01:47AM

Actually dying:o to see this exhibition is it any good?

Dyr · 08-03-2012 01:49AM

jesus, If they advertised it as "dead romanians on display" the queues would probably be up parnell street.

Went to see it last weekend, saw it the time before. Well worth a look.

ShooterSF · 08-03-2012 02:04AM

How can you say it's disrespectful when you can never know the person's wishes? We don't ever have to register what we want done to our body when we die. Therefore at best you can only guess what the person wanted.
If I knew after my death my body was wasted by lumping it into the ground or burning it I'd be sad as it could be of use to someone. However if I end up dead and unidentified how do you know what my wishes were to respect them?

paddyandy · 08-03-2012 02:13AM

Can we safely assume that many people would like their remains carted around the world and put on exhibition ? Job after life .

MungBean · 08-03-2012 02:17AM

ShooterSF wrote: »

How can you say it's disrespectful when you can never know the person's wishes? We don't ever have to register what we want done to our body when we die. Therefore at best you can only guess what the person wanted.

And guessing they would like to be respected and buried in accordance with the traditions of their people isnt better than mummifying them, sticking them in a freak show and charging entrance ?

Esoteric_ · 08-03-2012 03:21AM

Nothingbetter2d wrote: »

i bet you just love shagging a good "stiff" one

Ah, well -

When the rigor mortis has kicked in,
Let the fun begin

al28283 · 08-03-2012 11:27AM

paddyandy wrote: »

We never needed to see our innards in order for them to work; in that case they should be outside our bodies .

What about when they don't work? We should just lay down and die rather than try figure out the human body?

Dyr · 08-03-2012 11:32AM

MungBean wrote: »

And guessing they would like to be respected and buried in accordance with the traditions of their people isnt better than mummifying them, sticking them in a freak show and charging entrance ?

How is it a freak show? I didnt see any freaks at it? Did I miss something?

kylith · 08-03-2012 11:58AM

I went last time it was in town and I found it fascinating.

I don't really see a problem with unclaimed bodies being used in this way. IIRC many medical schools often use the bodies of unclaimed homeless people as training aids.

If it was a choice between spending some time travelling the world, educating people about the inner workings of their body, or being cremated, stuck in a bag, and left in a box with a bunch of other unidentified cremains I know which I'd choose for my corpse.

ziggy23 · 08-03-2012 01:36PM

I have a donor card so they can take what they want when I'm dead though I'm starting to wonder is there anything worth taking:eek:
I don't see a problem with using unclaimed bodies tbh it's not like someone is going to go in and recognise them as somebody they once knew.

ShooterSF · 08-03-2012 02:37PM

paddyandy wrote: »

Can we safely assume that many people would like their remains carted around the world and put on exhibition ? Job after life .

I assume we can, many people want vastly different things done with their body after death. It's kinda funny as when we're dead we'll neither be able to know or care what happens to it!

MungBean wrote: »

And guessing they would like to be respected and buried in accordance with the traditions of their people isnt better than mummifying them, sticking them in a freak show and charging entrance ?

"their people"? Now you're trying to respect the wishes of the majority. I don't want to be buried. I'd prefer to be in the bodies exhibit tbh but then again I'd prefer my friends and family do whatever they want with my carcass to ease my passing (if I still have any).
If I don't have a connection to any friends or family and cannot be identified then I sure as hell want to be put to some use and I wouldn't want someone second guessing my wishes based on their own, which is what you're doing.

al28283 · 08-03-2012 02:43PM

I want my remains loaded onto a rocket and shot into the sun and I expect the state to respect my wishes and makes sure it gets done

08-03-2012 02:51PM

It's a freak show. It's no more about 'science' than the x-factor is about music.

Go if thats what you are into, but don't dress it up into something it's not

stovelid · 08-03-2012 02:54PM

seamus wrote: »

Part of the aim of the exhibition is to challenge the traditional taboos around death, including things like this notion that dead people still have feelings.

And that living voyeurs have money.

Pal · 08-03-2012 03:14PM

frank9901 wrote: »

The full-body specimens can take over a year to prepare. All specimens are treated with the utmost care and respect.

So why is he split down the middle while his mate gets to play basketball ?

MungBean · 08-03-2012 04:40PM

Bambi wrote: »

How is it a freak show? I didnt see any freaks at it? Did I miss something?

Its dead people on show, they have turned people into curios so its basically a freak show. People are not going to learn or appreciate something they are going to have a look at dead people.

MungBean · 08-03-2012 04:43PM

ShooterSF wrote: »

"their people"? Now you're trying to respect the wishes of the majority. I don't want to be buried. I'd prefer to be in the bodies exhibit tbh but then again I'd prefer my friends and family do whatever they want with my carcass to ease my passing (if I still have any).
If I don't have a connection to any friends or family and cannot be identified then I sure as hell want to be put to some use and I wouldn't want someone second guessing my wishes based on their own, which is what you're doing.

So rather than having someone making an effort to try and treat your remains with respect you'd rather they say "nobody knows who it is lets do whatever we want. I know lets use it to make some money" ?

Thats pretty fcuked up logic. Just because you dont care you dont think anyone else's remains deserves any respect.

al28283 · 08-03-2012 04:43PM

MungBean wrote: »

Its dead people on show, they have turned people into curios so its basically a freak show. People are not going to learn or appreciate something they are going to have a look at dead people.

Medical students learn alot from looking at dead people

Dyr · 08-03-2012 04:45PM

MungBean wrote: »

Its dead people on show, they have turned people into curios so its basically a freak show. People are not going to learn or appreciate something they are going to have a look at dead people.

I went to it twice and I don't vaguely care about the "dead people" angle, its the human anatomy and innards on display and it's pretty interesting to see stuff like the circulatory system isolated, the sheer size of your aortas, the nerve bundles in your face etc. So yeah I learned stuff and appreciated stuff and it looked like other people there did too.

it's a bit like calling a wake a freak show tbh.

MungBean · 08-03-2012 04:45PM

al28283 wrote: »

Medical students learn alot from looking at dead people

Is this an exhibition for medical students to gain a better understanding of the body ? No its a travelling profit making road show trying to cash in on the curiosity of the general public by charging entrance to see dead people who never gave their consent for their remains to be used in that manner. I have no problem with donated bodies used to educate medical students but thats not what this is and dont even bother trying to convince me it is.

al28283 · 08-03-2012 04:49PM

MungBean wrote: »

People are not going to learn or appreciate something they are going to have a look at dead people.

So you agree people can learn from looking at dead people

Skeletons in the closet at Human Body Exhibit

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